Test E Cycle layout

[jerome simpson]

I'm lining up my second cycle and thought i'd get some input.

First, 5'9", 175, 13-14%BF, 33, long workout history. First cycle anavar only, gained 5 lbs. Goals this cycle are strength, some size. I can DL 405 now for example, and still gain linearly, but will begin a strict Bill Starr Intermediate 5x5. I've been using the principals currently, but will keep strict to the program for a few months. Going to try bulking (but clean) rather than my last which was more of a cutting cycle. Will cut at the end depending on how i'm doing the time. I'd like to stay in my BF range and will still incorporate cardio before and after lifting.


1-12 testE 300/wk Wed,Sat etc
1-3 testP 150/wk EOD
8-12 anavar 40mg/day
2-16 ai armidex or liq stane 12.5 EOD
6-14 HCGenerate

PCT week 14 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
Unleashed/postcycle
I also Have forma on hand


I kind of expect some opinions on the use of prop in the beginning, but i'm interested to see what they are. I'll assess 300mg/wk of testE, and adjust after getting to week 6 if i feel like it. Does 2 weeks after last pin before pct seem ok? I also take 1mg finasteride every day and will continue. Thanks.

 

[RADAR]

I'm lining up my second cycle and thought i'd get some input.

First, 5'9", 175, 13-14%BF, 33, long workout history. First cycle anavar only, gained 5 lbs. Goals this cycle are strength, some size. I can DL 405 now for example, and still gain linearly, but will begin a strict Bill Starr Intermediate 5x5. I've been using the principals currently, but will keep strict to the program for a few months. Going to try bulking (but clean) rather than my last which was more of a cutting cycle. Will cut at the end depending on how i'm doing the time. I'd like to stay in my BF range and will still incorporate cardio before and after lifting.


1-12 testE 300/wk Wed,Sat etc
1-3 testP 150/wk EOD
8-12 anavar 40mg/day
2-16 ai armidex or liq stane 12.5 EOD
6-14 HCGenerate

PCT week 14 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
Unleashed/postcycle
I also Have forma on hand


I kind of expect some opinions on the use of prop in the beginning, but i'm interested to see what they are. I'll assess 300mg/wk of testE, and adjust after getting to week 6 if i feel like it. Does 2 weeks after last pin before pct seem ok? I also take 1mg finasteride every day and will continue. Thanks.

PCT 2 wks after your last pin is fine!

 

[joeblow12345]

Well Im not against kickstarting with prop but I feel if you dont adjust the test e dose to accommodate the prop drop off you may see a drop in performance when it clears out. I would go
1-5 test p 100 mg (m, w, f)
1-5 test e 300 mg week
5-12 test e 600 mg week.
This is how Id do it.

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[dylangemelli]

I'm lining up my second cycle and thought i'd get some input.

First, 5'9", 175, 13-14%BF, 33, long workout history. First cycle anavar only, gained 5 lbs. Goals this cycle are strength, some size. I can DL 405 now for example, and still gain linearly, but will begin a strict Bill Starr Intermediate 5x5. I've been using the principals currently, but will keep strict to the program for a few months. Going to try bulking (but clean) rather than my last which was more of a cutting cycle. Will cut at the end depending on how i'm doing the time. I'd like to stay in my BF range and will still incorporate cardio before and after lifting.


1-12 testE 300/wk Wed,Sat etc
1-3 testP 150/wk EOD
8-12 anavar 40mg/day
2-16 ai armidex or liq stane 12.5 EOD
6-14 HCGenerate

PCT week 14 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
Unleashed/postcycle
I also Have forma on hand


I kind of expect some opinions on the use of prop in the beginning, but i'm interested to see what they are. I'll assess 300mg/wk of testE, and adjust after getting to week 6 if i feel like it. Does 2 weeks after last pin before pct seem ok? I also take 1mg finasteride every day and will continue. Thanks.

have you thought about using an oral as a kickstart instead? tbol would be great on this cycle as a kickstart...

your anavar dose is too low... it needs to be 60 mg at least and you should really run it 6 weeks... proviron is also good to run alongside anavar... you need to be taking n2guard with any orals that your run as well... i prefer aromasin over adex but thats up to you... i like the idea of the cycle, just a few things need changed but overall you did excellent research

 

[jerome simpson]

have you thought about using an oral as a kickstart instead? tbol would be great on this cycle as a kickstart...

your anavar dose is too low... it needs to be 60 mg at least and you should really run it 6 weeks... proviron is also good to run alongside anavar... you need to be taking n2guard with any orals that your run as well... i prefer aromasin over adex but thats up to you... i like the idea of the cycle, just a few things need changed but overall you did excellent research

Thanks man, a lot of the info on length/dosing came from your posts. I know you prefer liq stane for example and already ordered it. I also have letro sitting around as well.

I did think about Tbol, but i would prefer not to run an oral up front given the choice. I seem to recall Tbol being harsher on you than var. The var dosage is a bit low i know, but that's how much i have in stock right now. Would it be worth it at 40/day for that short a timeframe or should i just ditch that idea (or get more!)?

-J

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks man, a lot of the info on length/dosing came from your posts. I know you prefer liq stane for example and already ordered it. I also have letro sitting around as well.

I did think about Tbol, but i would prefer not to run an oral up front given the choice. I seem to recall Tbol being harsher on you than var. The var dosage is a bit low i know, but that's how much i have in stock right now. Would it be worth it at 40/day for that short a timeframe or should i just ditch that idea (or get more!)?

-J

i would get more bro... anavar is definitely worth it and you will see some excellent results from it... strength and cutting on it are excellent! i absolutely love it

 

[SupaSSterling]

I've ordered post cycle, unleashed, form, torem, hcgenerate, and brigde. I'm wanting to know when do you use all of these during pct? Im going to run test e 300. Any advice? I wanna do this the right and safe way. Also can someone lay out a pct not using nolva or clomid. I heard torem is better then both. Is there anything I can run for cycle support?