Test E and pct

[Deserttrd4x]

I am planning my first cycle of test e 500/wk for 12 weeks. Would I benefit from adding HCgenerate? If so what weeks? For PCT I wanted to run the unleased/Post cycle combo for four weeks. Is that long enough and do I need to add anything else? Maybe DAA and/or high dose of vit. d3? Thanks in advance

 

[kubes]

Are you planning to run any serms during pct?

 

[Deserttrd4x]

I can get nova, but wanted to see if it was possible to do it with some otc supplements like PES Erase, DS Triazole, IForce ReversitolV2, tx-3, AD-3 pct, cycle armor, etc

 

[Lou Super Man 123]

I can get nova, but wanted to see if it was possible to do it with some otc supplements like PES Erase, DS Triazole, IForce ReversitolV2, tx-3, AD-3 pct, cycle armor, etc

Stick to HCG man, drop those useless products and add Clomid to PCT.

 

[northernknight]

Stick to HCG man, drop those useless products and add Clomid to PCT.

You tried any of these useless products and are speaking from experience, or just parroting some intetweb gurus posts as "advices"?

Few weeks ago you posted having zero cycle experience, but you still seem to think that you have enough theoretical experience to give advice to others? Not trying to be a dick, I just find it very annoying that you have never even ran one cycle and/or PCT, but still know what's the best PCT protocol that works for everyone.
Or have you maybe tried to run HCG and Clomid just for fun? And if so what's the point, since you haven't cycled, so there's nothing to recover from?

You don't like the sponsor's products that's fine with me, but don't try to give people outdated advices that are based just upon your opinions and theories/bioscience spread throughout the net. Get at least some experience first with the products you put down, and using AAS before making these kind of statements. Without any experience with using the products you are talking about your opinions are completely worthless, and same goes for your outdated PCT recommendations.

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[Lou Super Man 123]

You tried any of these useless products and are speaking from experience, or just parroting some intetweb gurus posts as "advices"?

Few weeks ago you posted having zero cycle experience, but you still seem to think that you have enough theoretical experience to give advice to others? Not trying to be a dick, I just find it very annoying that you have never even ran one cycle and/or PCT, but still know what's the best PCT protocol that works for everyone.
Or have you maybe tried to run HCG and Clomid just for fun? And if so what's the point, since you haven't cycled, so there's nothing to recover from?

You don't like the sponsor's products that's fine with me, but don't try to give people outdated advices that are based just upon your opinions and theories/bioscience spread throughout the net. Get at least some experience first with the products you put down, and using AAS before making these kind of statements. Without any experience with using the products you are talking about your opinions are completely worthless, and same goes for your outdated PCT recommendations.

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I meant about the OTC products he listed, not the sponsor's products.

It was my mistake to not have quoted that which I'm fixing right now.

I get your point, I know you are not trying to be a dick and I accept the order.

I'm not parroting other people's ideas, I'm first one against broscience and the few post I have done advicing come from William Llewellyn's Anabolics.

"Stick with HCG and add Clomid" is not "Do only HCG and Clomid" I say him to add the 2 because you admins advice that and I didn't see these 2 drugs in OP's thread, I have some Dylan's layouts to make the point:

1-10 test e 350-500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 n2guard n2bm.com
3-10 HCGenerate es n2bm.com
11-12 hcg 1000 ius week

PCT 13-16

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
Phytoserms n2bm.com
HCGenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

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1-12 test cyp 350-500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-14 n2guard Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding
5-12 HCGenerate es
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week

PCT 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
Phytoserms n2bm.com
HCGenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators




1-12 sust 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
1-14 gw 501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
5-12 HCGenerate es
13-14 hcg 500 ius week
15-16 1000 ius week
9-14 anavar 60 mg day
9-14 n2guard
12-14 test prop 100 mg eod

PCT 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com
Phytoserms n2bm.com
HCGenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

I said stick with HCG which means, always use it.

Finally, as straight as I said I undertood and accept your order I say very very straight I had never said any word that comes from broscience and I don't accept that claim of you.

 

[northernknight]

Fair enough, I take back my claim on brosciece. You seem to be sincere, and very passionate about not accepting it, and I respect that a lot. I apologise if I got carried away too far with my post.

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[Lou Super Man 123]

Thanks a lot northernknight.
You know, it was never my intention to be a nuisance for you guys and I sincerely apologize if it was the case.
I still think that some of my opinions toward the attitude in regards of NTBM's products are legit, however I'm aware that I can be a lot more gently with these comments so I will keep an eye with this matter.
I can't compromise with becoming a NTBM lover from this very moment to tomorrow but I can definitely compromise with being respectful and gently.
I apreciate this forum and these products are the sponsors so there is no logic in bashing them and also my point is not related with the efficiency of this products, for me they are efficient and a must in every cycle.
I will watch every word I say from now on.

You're a real gentleman northernknight.