Test CYP only

[detroitfire]

I only have and only have access to test cyp at 250mg/ml.
I want to do a cutter and basically want to take it to retain some mass... what is the lowest dose you think I should use as a way to ONLY retain muscle not worrying about adding too much at this point

220 18% BF

Thanks all!!! Detroit FIRE

 

[GUARDIAN]

250mg ew is plenty though your diet & cardio will get u there.

 

[Selfcentor]

200 or 250....If its your first cycle i would DEF recommend that and even if its your 2nd or 3rd i say stay low. 200 worked for me GREAT. Warning. Alot of guys are going to tell you to take like 500 +. I would stay low

 

[swole]

I only have and only have access to test testosterone cypionate at 250mg/ml.
I want to do a cutter and basically want to take it to retain some mass... what is the lowest dose you think I should use as a way to ONLY retain muscle not worrying about adding too much at this point

220 18% BF

Thanks all!!! Detroit FIRE

i made lean gains off 200mg EW of c.yp while keeping water weight at bay

 

[dbolin]

Seriously, take at the least 500, 750 would be optimum at your size, 1st cycle or not. next cycle throw in another compound, dont be scared of the shit, be happy that it exists.

 

[bw1]

250 EW is good

 

[swole]

Seriously, take at the least 500, 750 would be optimum at your size, 1st cycle or not. next cycle throw in another compound, dont be scared of the shit, be happy that it exists.

I don't agree with this, especially for a cutter. He wants to preserve muscle while making quiet, lean gains. 500-750 and he's going to have bloating issues. Since he only has access to cy.p telling him to add something like win.strol, v.ar, E.Q, or preemo is a mute point.

 

[xrsist]

250mg a week would be fine
get your diet strict and hit the cardio hard

 

[advanced-stealth]

Agree with above^^

 

[eddymerckx]

Seriously, take at the least 500, 750 would be optimum at your size, 1st cycle or not. next cycle throw in another compound, dont be scared of the shit, be happy that it exists.

750 for a first cycle-??????-is stupid and dose has nothing to do with your size--the dose required has to do with receptor affinity etc.

if you are prone to gy.no--and if it's your first cycle you will not know--750 of tes.t will give you man boobs of a boobzilla class

 

[RearNaked]

200 or 250....If its your first cycle i would DEF recommend that and even if its your 2nd or 3rd i say stay low. 200 worked for me GREAT. Warning. Alot of guys are going to tell you to take like 500 +. I would stay low

Good advice bro. My first cycle, buddy had me at 675mg/wk of a few diff tests. This was before I discovered all the good bros here at EF. No fucking anti-e's or any P C T for that matter. What an asshole. Fuck did I gain some serious mass tho, but within 4 weeks, the gyno had crept up on my sorry ass...I was pissed, still am for that matter.

 

[detroitfire]

Thanks for all of the quick responses everyone... I was thinking 250 ew in the first place... Always find great help here... ill keep you all updated!!!
Thanks again
Detroit FIRE

 

[boletryne]

200mg ew is sufficient, good luck

 

[Donnie Darko]

250 mg/mL per week of cyp is your only option for gaining? If you are under 25 years of age you should be good to do along with some anti-aromtases, or if you are over 25 years of age, then it is good if it is your only experience to the sauce. If you are over 30 I'd recommend more than 250, but okay. You really should have an anti-aromatase or a good eastradiol antagonist at the receptor site such as Tamoxifen.

A few years back.....nearly 10 years ago, I think Raloxifene (s/p?) was a close competitor to Tamoxifen from a pharmaceutical standpoint anyway.

 

[Tweakle]

Is it your first? If so it's a terrible idea to waste your first ever cycle in that fashion. Eat a lot, take 500mg per week and enjoy the muscle growth.. first is always the best.

If not the first then you should take more for cutting than you would for 'bulking' - cutting cals and doing cardio burns muscle. eating lots builds muscle more than drugs alone.

I know most experts here have far more knowledge than him, but look at mak's cutting cycle as an example..

 

[detroitfire]

Is it your first? If so it's a terrible idea to waste your first ever cycle in that fashion. Eat a lot, take 500mg per week and enjoy the muscle growth.. first is always the best.

If not the first then you should take more for cutting than you would for 'bulking' - cutting cals and doing cardio burns muscle. eating lots builds muscle more than drugs alone.

I know most experts here have far more knowledge than him, but look at mak's cutting cycle as an example..

I would take more but.... just want to retain muscle.... did a small cycle before i knew what i was doing a few years back... but mostly want to cut bf% for now... thank you