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Test 400 cycle critique (2nd Time)

websy21

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Ok, here is the revison from some help....

1-10 400mg of test400 x 2/week(800mg)
1-12 5 caps/day HCGenerate
1-10 Xosterone x 5 servings/day
1-16 N2guard, krill, cissus, N2slin x 5/day
1-12 S4 50 mg/ED
1-12 GW 20mg/day
3-10 Formastanzol 5am/5pm

12-12 Post cycle/Unleashed
13-16 Clomid 20 mg/ED 50/50/25/25
13-16 Phyto/HCGenerate/N2guard
13-16 Aromasin 12.5 mg/eod
13-16 Ostarine 25mg/ED

Forgot to mention that I am taking 5 iu's/ED of HGH for couple months now and gonna run throughout cycle/PCT. Does this look solid? Never taken SARMS before and after reading up on them I can't wait to try them! Anything else I am missing? Thanks again in advance!
I am 29, 6' 225 lbs @ 12% or better. I have done countless cycles of orals and usually have good results but I realize you must pin to win! haha. I did one cycle 4 years ago, 250 test e and 600 mg/primo for 14 weeks and honestly it was a waste. I made gains but it was so slow and not very dramatic. Wish I would have atleast doubled the test but wanted to stay safe the virgin run. Got a solid grab on buddy's Test400 and he and a few other friends swear by it. Their results do not question either. He tells me he runs between 800-1200 no problems, no ai's but I know everyone is different. I thought I'd run Formastanzol on cycle to keep that at bay along with HCGenerate for aid in shutdown/recovery. I have everything on hand, supporing supps, etc. I thought the Transaderm would be a deece little kick start until the test starts to shine. Xosterone, couple bottles lying around so why not? How does everything look otherwise guys? All input is much apprecaited! Thanks in advance! - Cheers
 
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1-10 400mg of test400 x 2/week
1-12 5 caps/day Hcgenerate
1-10 Xosterone x 5 servings/day
1-16 N2guard
1-16 N2Slin 1 cap x 5/meals ed
1-16 Krill/Omega 3
1-16 Cissus powder
1-6 RS Transaderm 6 pumps/ed
3-10 Formastanzol 5am/5pm
13-16 Clomid 20 mg/ed (40 mg caps on hand)
13-16 Post Cycle/Unleashed

I am 29, 6' 225 lbs @ 12% or better. I have done countless cycles of orals and usually have good results but I realize you must pin to win! haha. I did one cycle 4 years ago, 250 test e and 600 mg/primo for 14 weeks and honestly it was a waste. I made gains but it was so slow and not very dramatic. Wish I would have atleast doubled the test but wanted to stay safe the virgin run. Got a solid grab on buddy's Test400 and he and a few other friends swear by it. Their results do not question either. He tells me he runs between 800-1200 no problems, no ai's but I know everyone is different. I thought I'd run Formastanzol on cycle to keep that at bay along with HCGenerate for aid in shutdown/recovery. I have everything on hand, supporing supps, etc. I thought the Transaderm would be a deece little kick start until the test starts to shine. Xosterone, couple bottles lying around so why not? How does everything look otherwise guys? All input is much apprecaited! Thanks in advance! - Cheers

bro, save the trnsaderm... there's no point at all to run it on this cycle... your thinking for it as a kickstart is flawed... i would run gw-501516 and s4 weeks 1-12 instead... get them at SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators... run hcgenerate es on cycle... your pct needs work...

pct

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators



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bro, save the trnsaderm... there's no point at all to run it on this cycle... your thinking for it as a kickstart is flawed... i would run gw-501516 and s4 weeks 1-12 instead... get them at SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators... run hcgenerate es on cycle... your pct needs work...

pct

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators



USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…

Ok, I'm sold on altering my PCT but as for those sarms from 1-12 are they going to be that much bang for the buck? Thats like another 500 bones for them both, not to mention more compounds. I wanted to keep it simple. Also, is there much change from Post Cycle/Unleashed instead of Phytoserms? Thanks for the help bro, really aprecaite it. Not starting till early new year so getting it all planned out well ahead of time! - Cheers!
 
Ok, here is the revison....

1-10 400mg of test400 x 2/week(800mg)
1-12 5 caps/day Hcgenerate
1-10 Xosterone x 5 servings/day
1-16 N2guard, krill, cissus, N2slin x 5/day
1-12 S4 50 mg/ed
1-12 GW 20mg/day
3-10 Formastanzol 5am/5pm

12-12 Post Cycle/Unleashed
13-16 Clomid 20 mg/ed 50/50/25/25
13-16 Phyto/Hcgenerate/N2guard
13-16 Aromasin 12.5 mg/eod
13-16 Ostarine 25mg/ed

Forgot to mention that I am taking 5 iu's/ed of HGH for couple months now and gonna run throughout cycle/pct. Does this look solid? Never taken Sarms before and after reading up on them I can't wait to try them! Anything else I am missing? Thanks again in advance!
 
Ok, here is the revison....

1-10 400mg of test400 x 2/week(800mg)
1-12 5 caps/day Hcgenerate
1-10 Xosterone x 5 servings/day
1-16 N2guard, krill, cissus, N2slin x 5/day
1-12 S4 50 mg/ed
1-12 GW 20mg/day
3-10 Formastanzol 5am/5pm

12-12 Post Cycle/Unleashed
13-16 Clomid 20 mg/ed 50/50/25/25
13-16 Phyto/Hcgenerate/N2guard
13-16 Aromasin 12.5 mg/eod
13-16 Ostarine 25mg/ed

Forgot to mention that I am taking 5 iu's/ed of HGH for couple months now and gonna run throughout cycle/pct. Does this look solid? Never taken Sarms before and after reading up on them I can't wait to try them! Anything else I am missing? Thanks again in advance!

Good stack but I would rather see you use aromasin as your AI on the cycle @ 25mgs ED.
 
Good stack but I would rather see you use aromasin as your AI on the cycle @ 25mgs ED.

Thanks for you input bro. I like runing formastanzol on cycle but have never ran a cycle this hard before. I was hoping to get away with forma alone on this one. You don't think it will suffice?
 
on a cycle like this, i would go with aromasin as well bro... you can try forma but i think you should go with aromasin...

bro, adding sarms is going to enhance your cycle so much... you will see very quickly that they will maximize evrything... i highly recommend running them bro...
 
Thanks for you input bro. I like runing formastanzol on cycle but have never ran a cycle this hard before. I was hoping to get away with forma alone on this one. You don't think it will suffice?

It really depends on how estrogen sensitive you are. Formastanozol is all I've ever needed on cycle, but those more gyno prone may need something stronger, which in case some liquid aromasin from AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer! will fit the bill just fine ;)
 
It really depends on how estrogen sensitive you are. Formastanozol is all I've ever needed on cycle, but those more gyno prone may need something stronger, which in case some liquid aromasin from AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer! will fit the bill just fine ;)

Hey guys, thanks for taking the time to put it into laymen's terms. I think I am going to try runing formastanzol. I'm not that suspectible to gyno so hopefully it does the trick. I will keep the Aromasin on hand just in case. Question, does one gauge this by the sensitivity of nipples or how would I really know? Thanks in advance guys!!!!
 
on a cycle like this, i would go with aromasin as well bro... you can try forma but i think you should go with aromasin...

bro, adding sarms is going to enhance your cycle so much... you will see very quickly that they will maximize evrything... i highly recommend running them bro...

Does Aromasin hinder gains at all? I just like everything about Forma and feel like if it can do the trick instead of a straight up AI. I have a couple bottles of Forma, so more than enough. Should I start it right at week 1 than straight through 10? 5 am/5 pm or up the dose higher?
 
the only way aromasin will hinder gains is if you abuse the dosing... it has many benefits otherwise as long as it is used properly...
 
the only way aromasin will hinder gains is if you abuse the dosing... it has many benefits otherwise as long as it is used properly...

What would a typical dosage be for this cycle if I replaced it with Formastanzol? I know forma increases blood pressure, would aromasin be more beneifical in that stand point?
 
on a cycle like this, i would go with aromasin as well bro... you can try forma but i think you should go with aromasin...

bro, adding sarms is going to enhance your cycle so much... you will see very quickly that they will maximize evrything... i highly recommend running them bro...

Will be starting in a couple weeks. Was wondering about the dosage and timing of sarms. The S4 25 mg in morning and 25 mg in afternoon???? The GW straight up 20 mg in the morning with the S4? When it comes time to PCT, what about the Ostarine and Aromasin timing? Thanks again in advance bro!
 
s4 is 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later... gw is 10 mg in the a.m. and 10 mg 10-12 hours later... i would take it before a workout on one of the doses...

ostarine is 25 mg once a day... aromasin is once a day... you can take it anytime...
 
This is going to be a great run with the Sarms added... Sarms 1 is the truth bro.. Dylan laid out some good stuff here

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This is going to be a great run with the Sarms added... Sarms 1 is the truth bro.. Dylan laid out some good stuff here

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Those are the words that I want to hear! I am excited to give this a go! Thanks again guys! :-D
 
Im in week 7 and ive been having people stop me and ask what im doing.. "how do you get so vascular" haha. Im fucking savage bro.. and I jump rope. Lol

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Im in week 7 and ive been having people stop me and ask what im doing.. "how do you get so vascular" haha. Im fucking savage bro.. and I jump rope. Lol

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Hahaha that's awesome. What exactly are you all taking right now? S4 and GW?
 
Forma is ten pumps a day... Five in the am and five in the pm but i would go with aromasin at 12.5 mg eod

Would there be any harm of both? Forma 5 am, 5pm and 12.5 mg Aroma eod? Why do you keep stating 12.5 mg by the way? Where do you get that number from? Wouldn't 10mg be good enough?
 
Hahaha that's awesome. What exactly are you all taking right now? S4 and GW?

Ostarine with s4 and gw. Also have hcgenerare that ive been running the whole way





Would there be any harm of both? Forma 5 am, 5pm and 12.5 mg Aroma eod? Why do you keep stating 12.5 mg by the way? Where do you get that number from? Wouldn't 10mg be good enough?

12.5 is half a ml. If you are taking aromasin you dont need forma

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yes, the aromasin at ag-guys is 10 mg/ml so if you want to take 12.5 mg eod then you need 1 1/4 ml as your dose...

Hey Dylan, things are going great one week into cycle. I was tossing around the idea of adding some Tren Ace into the cycle. 100 mg EOD, what are your thoughts? Thanks in advance bro!
 
i really don't think its necessary... you just started the cycle... have you ran tren before? you are going to need caber along with it... i think your running enough right now with everything else... you need to plan ahead for tren and be ready for it which I am not sure you are... im not saying you can't add it but i really don't think its the best idea...
 
I was going to order caber today if you thought it was ok. By the time I have it the tren would be here. Than I'd run it the last 8 weeks of cycle. That's more than long enough for tren isn't it? I am currently running forma but if I added tren is definitely switch to aromasin while on. Yes it wssnt planned but if I do it I can still make it work perfect. I was more concerned of the synergy, etc. I've always wanted to run tren and with the ace their comes sides I'd just drop it instantly and carry on where I left off. I've heard of guys getting sick results even from 50mg eod but most use 100 mg eod. I just think it would sickly amplify everything and would still be taking a crazy amount of gear...

As always, thanks for all of the help good bro!
 
i would run it 6 weeks and asses... don't go over 8 weeks... start at 50-75 mg eod... that's plenty... caber at .5 mg e3d...
 
i would run it 6 weeks and asses... don't go over 8 weeks... start at 50-75 mg eod... that's plenty... caber at .5 mg e3d...

Okay right on. I will be prepped for this no problem. I thought 8 weeks was kewl but I will start with 6 and assess. I appreciate all your help bro. So my current support is fine other than the caber? Aromasin 12.5 mg eod and I'm set? Thanks a million!
 
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