Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER make

[technology_1]

Now I see why bodybuilders deny it. It's the sort of information that absolutely should never, ever be shared with the public. You will get demonised and destroyed for it. You only tell others who have done it that you're on gear. For the love of god, do not tell anyone else.

I told someone today that I had tried gear - Halodrol - a prohormone. He has since gone quiet on me, and immediately judged me. Possibly going to tell others, and blow things out of proportion. He wanted to know, so I told him. Seems he didn't take it too well. My explanation was that I got far with my physique, and wanted to take things to the next level. I explained I'd reached my natural limit (around 185 at 5'9 and 8%) which is why I opted to try something out.

The fault was mine, it was because I actually did more than just tell him I used gear. I told him in fairly great detail, how gear works, etc and that I'd done a ton of research on it as well as prohormones before making the decision. Similarly to how we'd interact here on the forums.

He'd begun judging me well before I got that far of course.

He's a natty, and like most natties, they simply find gear usage on any level abhorent. As someone who has always been open to it and known about the extent to which it's being used, I didn't think there would be this much of an issue. But I guess you live and learn.

The basic principles are still very much in effect. Hard training, consistent diet - calorie surplus when bulking, calorie defict when cutting.

Why is it that people, especially people who are in the know about the fitness industry - are still so damn upset over knowing about gear? Why?

My advice to everyone: Just don't tell anyone about your usage. Ever. It's a lot worse if you actually look good as well. This is the one secret I can see why bodybuilders want to take to the grave with them. As soon as you admit it, you literally turn into a demon. There is nothing good that will ever come out of admitting it to anyone. I now see why I instinctively kept it to myself all these years (all the knowledge I had amassed from researching gear). This is the result of confiding in someone. There was nothing good that could have come of it so I shouldn't be so surprised really, but it does upset and bother me that someone now knows. And no amount of explaining how hard you need to work anyway on gear and all the stuff we all know is true will ever convince them that you're a disgusting steroid cheat. :/ Everytime they see your physique, it will be "all steroids" or a "steroid physique".

Some may have different experiences of telling others, but this is mine. Doesn't help that I am quite ripped either, as I used it for a cutting cycle. I naturally have low body fat, but it was more of a recomp more than anything. I can imagine to people it's "written all over me" as I've heard that term used before.

Any similar stories?

PS: Also makes it super awkward training in the gym after that. :/

 

[RickRock13]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

I wouldn't tell anyone anything that's none of their business, but I also wouldn't care what they thought either. And..You will get judged whether you tell them or not

 

[jan_wayne]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

Well said. Just one person personally knows, that I tried SARM (not as "hard" as AAS, but an anabolic component, indeed). And this will be the one and only person.

 

[TheKid7]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

Well said. Just one person personally knows, that I tried SARM (not as "hard" as AAS, but an anabolic component, indeed). And this will be the one and only person.

Do you feel better now?

 

[technology_1]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

I wouldn't tell anyone anything that's none of their business, but I also wouldn't care what they thought either. And..You will get judged whether you tell them or not

This is true..

There are other guys he would ask me if they were taking gear as well who had good physiques, but who I know for a fact were natural, and I defended them in good faith, only to be called a liar. So I guess even those guys are demonized..

I agree when you say you get judged anyway, but I just kind of thought, in my naivety I suppose, that I might be judged a lot less if I was just straight and gave him the truth (that's what they all complain about, right?). I guess I was wrong. He didn't even believe me when I told him the extent of my cycle experience was a prohormone..

Definitely a major red flag guys.

Well said. Just one person personally knows, that I tried SARM (not as "hard" as AAS, but an anabolic component, indeed). And this will be the one and only person.

It won't be so much of an issue if you are not shredded or big, or look like you have tried something... which is hard because even small guys are considered to be on steroids sometimes. Like Justin Bieber if anyone remembers that whole shit storm.

 

[RickRock13]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

I've been asked too many times to count, if I use steroids. I don't answer the question, because I cannot win with my answer. Nothing changes what people think of you. No matter my answer, I'm either labeled a liar or a cheater. There's one person in the world that I talk openly about my use to (other than on the forums), and that is my wife.

 

[FitnessSeattle]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

The emperor has no natty
The elephant in the room that hardly anyone will talk about is - almost everyone that looks fantastic, or is winning competitions is, or has been on something.
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It like admitting you are an atheist in Saudi Arabia, it is rational, it is sane, it is sensible, it harms no one, but it is a severe heresy.
Almost everyone that is any good, is on gear., I have worked for all the major fitness clubs for decades, the PT sales process is simple - find a high pressure salesman or woman that has a great face, teach them some training bullshit (no one cares about or can even afford sophisticated training anyway) and put them on hella gear and lift hard so they look the part..

 

[Player9]

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You don't even need to tell ppl once you get to a certain place it's just that obvious I'm constantly accused of being on roids and yeah I am but they don't actually know that it's just how ppl are

 

[hurricane]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

you never talk about fight club bro

 

[technology_1]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

you never talk about fight club bro

I still can't believe how badly I screwed up dude. It's like the elephant in the room you have to absolutely shut up about no matter what... But then again Jay Cutler admitted to it on video before so, I dunno man.

 

[stackmanpf77]

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pretty sure 99% if not all the people at my gym know I'm on, you must be REALLY unlucky, coz none of them give a sh*t at my gym.
just luck of the draw I think you'll find...

 

[MagenxA]

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Well bro, we cant expect others to be like us who are open minded, who accept people on what they really are and never judge anyone based on what they did. We still build our physique by working hard and stay committed as much as possible. So who are they to judge us when all they do is look at us. They're not the one who do the training for us to get the physique we wanted. Its not their hands that get callus, not their sweat that drips and not their body that aches the next day after training. So who are they to judge

You dont need a person who judge you on things that doesnt even harm them in any way. Better, plug your ears with earbuds and convert that feelings into motivation.

 

[stevesmi]

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look if its that big a deal what others think then don't do it to begin with.

people close to you are going to figure it out eventually.

 

[MaxxReps]

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I got accused of it long before I started. If you look good then you MUST be on something.

I used to be overweight in my younger years and ran into a guy I used to know years ago and he said WOW What have you been doing? Whats your secret?

I said "Diet and Exercise". And he said THATS IT? That was long before touching anything at all.

 

[ironpendog]

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I'm just open and honest , people know I'm an open book. I say what's on my mind and when someone asks me a meaningful question I give them the truth , weAther it be about gear or just anything in general. Life's too short to beat around the bush. Speak your , you'll sleep easy at night


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[technology_1]

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I got accused of it long before I started. If you look good then you MUST be on something.

I used to be overweight in my younger years and ran into a guy I used to know years ago and he said WOW What have you been doing? Whats your secret?

I said "Diet and Exercise". And he said THATS IT? That was long before touching anything at all.

It blows my mind that people can be so inquisitive and such busy bodies about what another man is doing with his own body. I had before some guy who would ask me every single time he saw me if I was on steroids. This was well before I even took anything. Back then I used to think they were all insane because I was a somewhat fluffy 190lbs (visible abs) who had just made a bunch of newb gains over the span of around 2 years and had been bulking very hard.

The problem here is that people just always have to know of the "secret". The reality is, I had been busting my ass, eating a ton if I was bulking, or a little when I started cutting. But my mistake was wanting to take it to the next level, and doing it around so many people who (unbeknownst to me) were "watching" so intently.

I lost my gains from my cycle, but I still look fairly "ok" and have reverted back to the physique I had more or less before cycling. But of course, because I was bigger before, I look like a "juice head" to everyone on my Facebook. Apparently everyone talks shit about me. I mean I used so little as well, it blows my mind that it has come to this.

When I told this dude that I had tried a PH, he was so skeptical, you could almost see the cogs in his head thinking how much of a "cheater" I am, when the reality was I only did it after years of training naturally and busting my ass. This is what all of us do... But we know once you reach your genetic limit, gains are minimal at best. I trained for 2 extra years at my genetic limit and literally didn't even gain a clear lb of extra mass. What is the issue here? It was probably my fault, because I spoke to him at length about everything I had found out about gear. Wet compounds that aromatise, dry compounds used during cutting like Tren and so on. I emphasised the fact that nurtirion is still just as important as ever, and showed him pics of me when I was still a natty... obv didn't believe me. :/ He looked at me like I was a mad scientist or something who knew everythign about gear.. In hindsight I can see why it was a stupid decision to even speak to him in the first place about any of this, given the fact that he's a "natty nazi". I told him how quickly I saw results as well, in a matter of 2 weeks, to which he responded "well I'm not about a magic pill". In order to progress and move forward. It may not have turned out the way I had planned, but now I feel like I can't even do anything anymore because I'll just be judged by everyone I know... and I already do get judged.

Not that it matters to be honest, I can't find the motivation to take anything anymore to regain what I lost just to compete and have my entire "friend's list" hate on me for doing something to improve on my physique (people already have a good idea that I've used). I think it'd feel weird announcing I was prepping for another show, since they'd all know I was going to do it with gear. And even if I competed without it, still get judged. Meh.

It's true what they say. A miserable life can be linked directly to the sort of people you are surrounded by. I feel trapped these days. Kind of wish I had stayed natty.

 

[FT10]

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It's not worth telling people who have no idea about fitness, training, nutrition or aas that you take steroids. Nothing can be gained from it, because all the common person knows about steroids comes from the mainstream media, which has a totally sensationalist, fear-mongering, pseudo-science approach to steroid use.

 

[letsgosarms]

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Going to reply to this with a smirk. When i lived in brazil, about 70% of the men took steroids, and a lot, maybe the majority of women who went to the gym were cycling on something. It wasn't uncommon for people to take steroids, and it was almost a fad. In rio de janeiro there are more fit people per square mile than anyplace else in the world, big fact. I had girlfriends that were completely oblivious to the fact that the big guy walking with his shirt off along the beach took steroids, in fact mostly all of them thought it was natural.

I remember just coming off a cycle, and i was huge, on the beach there are always hundreds of people walking along, as well they have gym equipment(pull up bars, dips, etc) everywhere. I remember getting an awesome pump, and these two women wouldn't stop staring at me and talking about me, unfortunate to them i spoke fluent portuguese, and luckily they were women so i didn't approach them aggressively. They kept looking at me like i was some animal, with these huge pumped up arms. I completely shrugged it off, and said fuck them.

I had one girlfriend that was into working out, and always wanted to know what i took and how i got to be this way. So of course i told her, because he sister cycled on var so i said fuck it, got nothing to lose. Introduced her to SARMS and told her about tbol and other roids that she should get.

the consensus is that people don't give a fuck, people who know about steroids or have taken them are going to know you are juicing. I get looks at work all the time and comments about how big i am. Does that make me feel insecure or bad about it? absolutely not, just more confident.

Listen, i have admitted that i take roids to my parents, many girlfriends, admitting to injecting myself, lied about steroid use. Told many of my good friends that i have taken steroids blatantly, and those friends had already taken a few roid cycles. So, it doesn't matter, lie, tell them the truth, doesn't matter. If someone approached me and asked me i did steroids i would jump through hoops for a little bit then decide if i feel comfortable telling them..

why would you care about what other people think about you? especially if its some random bloke

 

[technology_1]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

It's not worth telling people who have no idea about fitness, training, nutrition or aas that you take steroids. Nothing can be gained from it, because all the common person knows about steroids comes from the mainstream media, which has a totally sensationalist, fear-mongering, pseudo-science approach to steroid use.

You''ll be surprised how misinformed even natties who are serious about the industry and nutrition/training are... many of them find satisfaction in looking the same more or less, year after year... but get upset when someone else does something about it.

 

[JM3225]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

Wife and Dr..... Only people that need to know. Nobody else business.

 

[FT10]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

You''ll be surprised how misinformed even natties who are serious about the industry and nutrition/training are... many of them find satisfaction in looking the same more or less, year after year... but get upset when someone else does something about it.

I agree. They treat people who are known steroid takers as if they were Casey Anthony or something. It seems to bother them on a personal, moral level. The way I see it, if someone is willing to go to the length of taking steroids after significant effort grinding day in, day out naturally, they deserve respect. It isn't anybody's business what you do with your own body.

 

[technology_1]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

I agree. They treat people who are known steroid takers as if they were Casey Anthony or something. It seems to bother them on a personal, moral level. The way I see it, if someone is willing to go to the length of taking steroids after significant effort grinding day in, day out naturally, they deserve respect. It isn't anybody's business what you do with your own body.

I'm literally living in an area surrounded by nothing but these people. It's like living in hell.

 

[Anofuctus]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

Now I see why bodybuilders deny it. It's the sort of information that absolutely should never, ever be shared with the public. You will get demonised and destroyed for it. You only tell others who have done it that you're on gear. For the love of god, do not tell anyone else.

I told someone today that I had tried gear - Halodrol - a prohormone. He has since gone quiet on me, and immediately judged me. Possibly going to tell others, and blow things out of proportion. He wanted to know, so I told him. Seems he didn't take it too well. My explanation was that I got far with my physique, and wanted to take things to the next level. I explained I'd reached my natural limit (around 185 at 5'9 and 8%) which is why I opted to try something out.

The fault was mine, it was because I actually did more than just tell him I used gear. I told him in fairly great detail, how gear works, etc and that I'd done a ton of research on it as well as prohormones before making the decision. Similarly to how we'd interact here on the forums.

He'd begun judging me well before I got that far of course.

He's a natty, and like most natties, they simply find gear usage on any level abhorent. As someone who has always been open to it and known about the extent to which it's being used, I didn't think there would be this much of an issue. But I guess you live and learn.

The basic principles are still very much in effect. Hard training, consistent diet - calorie surplus when bulking, calorie defict when cutting.

Why is it that people, especially people who are in the know about the fitness industry - are still so damn upset over knowing about gear? Why?

My advice to everyone: Just don't tell anyone about your usage. Ever. It's a lot worse if you actually look good as well. This is the one secret I can see why bodybuilders want to take to the grave with them. As soon as you admit it, you literally turn into a demon. There is nothing good that will ever come out of admitting it to anyone. I now see why I instinctively kept it to myself all these years (all the knowledge I had amassed from researching gear). This is the result of confiding in someone. There was nothing good that could have come of it so I shouldn't be so surprised really, but it does upset and bother me that someone now knows. And no amount of explaining how hard you need to work anyway on gear and all the stuff we all know is true will ever convince them that you're a disgusting steroid cheat. :/ Everytime they see your physique, it will be "all steroids" or a "steroid physique".

Some may have different experiences of telling others, but this is mine. Doesn't help that I am quite ripped either, as I used it for a cutting cycle. I naturally have low body fat, but it was more of a recomp more than anything. I can imagine to people it's "written all over me" as I've heard that term used before.

Any similar stories?

PS: Also makes it super awkward training in the gym after that. :/

Not similar, but quite fucked up. I had been dosing Test E 2-3gm. a month which made me feel like King Kong at 50. I get a letter saying that I have come in for the annual prostate examination. Blood and urine samples were taken and I thought nothing of it. Turns out that my prostate gland was in good shape even after 3 years of 2-3gm. of Test-E injections every month. I'm given a follow-up appointment to talk with an urologist about what was discovered which was nothing just a simple follow procedure they always do. I arrive at the doctor office, he begins to go over my blood test results and suddenly he stands and shouts in a loud voice, shit here come hospital police, "You're taking steroids aren't you?" There is no way that your testosterone level can be at that level unless you are taking steroids" >1500ng/dl. Nosy son of a bitch! I sat there not saying a word then he says, "You're probably sharing needles in the locker room". "This behavior can lead to AIDS" What an asshole! He continues with his lecture on steroids and how bad they are for the body.
Finally he calms down and tells that if I stop the steroids, he'd put me on TRT for life. Yeah right! I will have to stop cold turkey after being on 2-3gm. a month for 3 years. I'm going to crash and burn!!! I felt like pure hell washed over with shit!! 3 months of agonizing hell just to let the test level get as low as possible. I should have check the Internet for testosterone lowering food and drink, but my mind was clouded from something that felt like drug withdrawal and I knew you can't withdraw from Test. You just simply feel bad when the level gets really low. So I called the clinic and made my appointment. I went for my blood test and the results shocked the fuck out out me: 193ng/dl! No wonder that I was dragging my ass! Then a month later I get the letter to come in for my TRT injections at 200 e2wks and 300 e2wks. I had asked a different doctor to increase my dosage and told him that it's quite inconvenient for me to drive all the way down here for just one shot, allow me to do home injections. So I began the home injections and had my blood tested every 45 days about 3 times I think and then they stopped asking me to in for blood drawing, Hell no more blood drawing, time to get back on the train! For 5 straight years not a peep out of my doctors about my elevated Test levels until January, 14, 2014. I was told by my PCP that TRT is to be discontinued until I see the urologist and the endocrinologist to discuss my test levels.
I refused all appointments to see them because I didn't want to admit the usage. Even though that fucking doctor wrote in my medical records: :The patient has an usually high test reading for his age group and I'm suspecting that the patient is using anabolic steroids" The motherfucker! I hoped that know would ask about my medical history, reading that and I'd be out of a job. It's time to get administration involved and have that removed from my records.
It had taken some time to go through the proper channels, but it's been deleted. Later on, the endocrinologist leaves the hospital for good. I receive a phone call telling me that the doctor has left and all TRT patients will be out-sourced to other clinics and hospitals in the metro area. Going back on TRT? I think not!
Another steroid related incident I should say. I somehow inadvertently mentioned steroid usage to a nephew and a brother. I have never felt so much disdain, contempt, and hatred in my life! My brother desperately wanted me to go to jail and my nephew was dying for a fight!!! My brother lied to the cops that I'm on steroids and that I struck him on his face with my gun!
I was arrested in my own bedroom just about to go to bed and my gun taken away! How fucking low can a person get? This fucking brother knew that when I get out of jail that I would tear him a knew asshole. So he ges all packed up and goes to teach in Kazakhstan plus to get away from the IRS!
My fiery nephew turns in a tub of lard supported by his girlfriend.
Because of those two bastards, every goddamn relative know I'm on AAS.
You think you can trust your relatives, but you really can't.
When I go to gym, I get the occasional, "Hey you did look like that two weeks, Where did you gt those shoulders and back? You on something?" That's why I try to get to the gym at 5AM to avoid them. BTW, I can't even trust my woman with the "Secret" anymore. I over heard her saying that " "-------" is doing steroids? Like it's a damn "Get High" drug!
Fucking bitch. I've got plans to ditch the bitch real soon. She talks too damn much. I wonder does steroids give you ESP? Ha Ha. I hope my little story won't bore you fellas. If anything else comes to mind I let you all know.

 

[25homes]

Re: Telling/Admitting to someone you have used gear - biggest mistake you will EVER m

I don't care what ppl think. .. I'd you look good they assume you are on them anyways so who cares what others think

 

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Oh I forgot to add something or maybe I didn't, Oh well. Anyway, I used to go the gym after 7PM where most of the guys I know sign up around about the same I did, same faces almost every workout night. I began taking SuperDMZ for only two weeks that's when the "Inquisition" started and I felt like Frankenstein's Monter so I fled to 5AM where there are only a handful of people and no trials.