Teen arrested on child porn charges after posting photos of his ex

[velvett]

Note to the kids: I know you are not gonna stop sending each other naked photos of yourselves, but when your hot girlfriend becomes your ex, do not post those photos on MySpace with the caption "Yo tell me this bitch desurves this!!!!!!! This is HLK yall! Yo, U see how big her hole is! Its from me! TF gets my leftover's to bad she fucked." That's what Alex Phillips did to his 16-year-old ex, and now the 17-year-old boy is facing charges of sexual exploitation of a child and possession of child pornography. Obviously he's a twat and deserving of the defamation charge that he's also getting. But is this really a child porn case?

Phillips isn't even two years older than his ex; they're both in high school. She took the photos herself, apparently under no duress, and e-mailed them to him. As awful as his behavior is (a report says that when cops warned him about possible jail time, he replied "fuck that, I am keeping them up"), it's an interaction between two minors.

After all, this case provides plenty of evidence that Phillips and his girlfriend had sex, which in their state of Wisconsin is illegal under the age of 18. So should he be strung up on statutory rape charges too? Do we just use laws in any case they technically apply regardless of the point, which is to protect children from sexual exploitation by adults?

Or are the laws even reasonable in an age when teenagers are sexually active and have access to cheap communication? Do we need new anti-defamation laws for spreading humiliating photos of anyone, regardless of age? Or is it only minors who will get protection when an ex spreads their dirty naked pics?

http://gawker.com/392457/teen-arrested-on-child-porn-charges-after-posting-photos-of-his-ex







THOUGHTS?

 

[EnderJE]

What's the problem with what he did? I don't get it.

Oh right. She's not responsible for her actions at all. She didn't think of the potential outcome of when a HS relationship turns sour.

 

[velvett]

What's the problem with what he did? I don't get it.

Oh right. She's not responsible for her actions at all. She didn't think of the potential outcome of when a HS relationship turns sour.

After they broke up he posted her nudie shots on the internet that she took and sent to him while they were dating and refused to take them down.

Personally, I think they're both responsible and the both deserve to face the consequences of their actions.

If he gets charged for child pornography she should as well being that she was the photographer.

 

[jnevin]

After they broke up he posted her nudie shots on the internet that she took and sent to him while they were dating and refused to take them down.

Personally, I think they're both responsible and the both deserve to face the consequences of their actions.

If he gets charged for child pornography she should as well being that she was the photographer.

I agree. I can understand the defamation suit, but they're both responsible when it comes to those pics.

 

[EnderJE]

After they broke up he posted her nudie shots on the internet that she took and sent to him while they were dating and refused to take them down.

Personally, I think they're both responsible and the both deserve to face the consequences of their actions.

If he gets charged for child pornography she should as well being that she was the photographer.

If I give you something, then I'm trusting you to take care of it. If you give it away, then shame on me to trust you.

That said, I do understand your point...but child porn charges? COME ON! He'll be labelled as a sex offender and it will destroy his life and she gets away scot free? WTF?!

 

[SpyWizard]

If I give you something, then I'm trusting you to take care of it. If you give it away, then shame on me to trust you.

That said, I do understand your point...but child porn charges? COME ON! He'll be labelled as a sex offender and it will destroy his life and she gets away scot free? WTF?!

yes he will be labeled that, and it's because that is what he is in this case..

Imagine your daughters pic posted like that, what would you do to the kid?? and then you could go to jail in his stead..

either way it will make these idiot children think twice, if you are going to use adult electronic equipment, you'd better be mature enough to use it within federal law..

with that said, no, i don't think he is a child molester, his parents should be sued for their house and all the income he produces for the next 10 years, how'd that be for ya as a punishment??

 

[velvett]

If I give you something, then I'm trusting you to take care of it. If you give it away, then shame on me to trust you.

That said, I do understand your point...but child porn charges? COME ON! He'll be labelled as a sex offender and it will destroy his life and she gets away scot free? WTF?!

Oh the child porn charges are absolutely ridiculous and yes it would ruin his life. I just meant that no matter what the charges end up being that they should be shared equally between them.

But life lessons are ever rarely fair.

 

[SpyWizard]

If I give you something, then I'm trusting you to take care of it. If you give it away, then shame on me to trust you.

That said, I do understand your point...but child porn charges? COME ON! He'll be labelled as a sex offender and it will destroy his life and she gets away scot free? WTF?!

not pickin on ya, just saw what ya posted, the responded.. this was on good morning america today..

the opinions of the judge were idiotic, even more so than hillary's..

 

[EnderJE]

yes he will be labeled that, and it's because that is what he is in this case..

Imagine your daughters pic posted like that, what would you do to the kid?? and then you could go to jail in his stead..

either way it will make these idiot children think twice, if you are going to use adult electronic equipment, you'd better be mature enough to use it within federal law..

with that said, no, i don't think he is a child molester, his parents should be sued for their house and all the income he produces for the next 10 years, how'd that be for ya as a punishment??

I do not consider him a sex offender. That said, I also do not know the technical criteria for a sex offender. If you've got it, then great. I do understand the emotional outbursts ("think of the kids!") when some is labeled as a sex offender.

If my daughter posted a picture like that, I would first start to look inward to understand why my daughter is taking a picture like that and giving it out to everyone. "But Dad!" She'll say. "I love him and he said that he won't do it!"

At this point, I'll be sad that I did a piss poor job of raising a child who is that naive and blame myself.

Will I hate the guy? Sure. Will I kill him or hurt him? Why? All he did was post up a nude picture of my kid. The killing or hurting desire is only triggered when my kid is raped or murdered.

I wouldn't pushing the child to a degree where he had a permanent record.

Fortunately, I have boys.

 

[heatherrae]

Well, the police told him to take them down and he didn't. So, I think the kid needs to get in a little hot water. Child porn is a very serious charge, too serious for what he did, but something lesser.

 

[mountain muscle]

Well, the police told him to take them down and he didn't. So, I think the kid needs to get in a little hot water. Child porn is a very serious charge, too serious for what he did, but something lesser.

Gotta stay in business, eh counselor?

 

[heatherrae]

Gotta stay in business, eh counselor?

Mamma needs a new GPS...lol.

 

[Dial_tone]

I think he should be in a little more trouble than her since he's the one that posted the pictures. As Paris Hilton found out, legally speaking, the person who took the picture owns the rights to it. He didn't have the right to post her picture and doing it when she's a minor should result in some penalty; hopefully not a lifelong sex offender designation but something.

Just remember what happened to this kid. He had consensual sex too.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/c...years-prison-having-sex-15-yr-old-295460.html

 

[mountain muscle]

Mamma needs a new GPS...lol.

You lost your way?

 

[heatherrae]

You lost your way?

I'm always lost so my new bf got me a gps. It's a running joke on here now. ;-)

 

[Razorguns]

What's the problem with what he did? I don't get it.
.

Because pervs are going to take it and trade it in chatrooms all over the world. And cops will find it one day, and start wasting valuable resources trying to 'track down' this girl and make sure she's not being molested. That's more tax dollars to you and me cause of this dipshit.

r

 

[SpyWizard]

I do not consider him a sex offender. That said, I also do not know the technical criteria for a sex offender. If you've got it, then great. I do understand the emotional outbursts ("think of the kids!") when some is labeled as a sex offender.

If my daughter posted a picture like that, I would first start to look inward to understand why my daughter is taking a picture like that and giving it out to everyone. "But Dad!" She'll say. "I love him and he said that he won't do it!"

At this point, I'll be sad that I did a piss poor job of raising a child who is that naive and blame myself.

Will I hate the guy? Sure. Will I kill him or hurt him? Why? All he did was post up a nude picture of my kid. The killing or hurting desire is only triggered when my kid is raped or murdered.

I wouldn't pushing the child to a degree where he had a permanent record.

Fortunately, I have boys.

well, there ya go, we know why you have your position.. i raised 2 girls, and now i have a boy.. so the real issue is the boys parents allowed him to learn from life that revenge at the hands of totally destroying a girls reputation, and life is ok to do..

I'm suspect you still believe that girls are sluts, and boys are great if they have more than 1 sexual partner... now who's old school.. just an assumption on my part...

* off soap box..

the reality of it, he's not a sex offender, he is childish, and needs a good ass beating, he didn't get it when he was younger, now he gets to do it in prison..

take note, this is a good lesson for you, if you own a home, make sure you have the optional liability insurance on it, only adds like $35 year to the premium and you as the parent are financially responsible for damages caused
by your child's actions..

as for him being fcuked for life?? do u think she is injured in any way?? she is the victim in this whole thing after all...

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

What's the problem with what he did? I don't get it.

Oh right. She's not responsible for her actions at all. She didn't think of the potential outcome of when a HS relationship turns sour.

I am all for taking responsibility for you ctions but when you do something like this in a relationship where things are private. This is a bit different.

This guy has no class at all and is a douche. If it were my daughter i would be serving 15-20 for v. douche slaughter

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

If I give you something, then I'm trusting you to take care of it. If you give it away, then shame on me to trust you.

That said, I do understand your point...but child porn charges? COME ON! He'll be labelled as a sex offender and it will destroy his life and she gets away scot free? WTF?!

Mabe he needs to see the consequences of his actions. He did somethng that was bad very very bad and even made comments about her hole and how he fucked the shit out of it. That went too far.

and where the fuck were these nekkid picture taking girls when I was in HS?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Oh the child porn charges are absolutely ridiculous and yes it would ruin his life. I just meant that no matter what the charges end up being that they should be shared equally between them.

But life lessons are ever rarely fair.

So you dont think her life lesson of having pics posted up and having crude comments is bad enough punishment for her actions.

I bet her parents saw these asked him to take them down he said no and they got a lawyer. The lawyer said how old is she? 16. She is a minor he posted child porn. lets fuck him over. He deserves it.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I doubt the charge will stand. But it will make a point I hope. Or this kid will get a big head and think he can beat the law. Is it OJs kid?

 

[GUARDIAN]

i heard this on the radio yesterday. he had an extra chance. when the police initially got involved they asked him to take them down. he told them to fuck off.

 

[musclemom]

Y'know, I'm thinking we should re-enact things like the stocks, seriously. Maybe a little controlled public humiliation might wake these shitheads up.

WTF is wrong with kids anymore? Utterly without class or discrimination.

She was stupid for sending nudes to her boyfriend. He crossed a line of decency in posting the pictures because his pride was hurt. He disrespected the police.

I think Myspace, however, is demon spawn from some twisted dimension, seriously. It's warping the brains of society. I won't fucking go near it.

 

[bigmann245]

Well, the police told him to take them down and he didn't. So, I think the kid needs to get in a little hot water. Child porn is a very serious charge, too serious for what he did, but something lesser.

i agree. in a way he asked for it. they gave him a chance to remove them and he didn't. but to charge the kid for child porn is ridiculous. why isn't the girl being charged? why isnt SHE going get in trouble for rape as well? i saw on Oprah one day this 18 year old was charged and convicted of statutory rape because his 17 year old girlfriends parents found out they were having sex. they found out when the kid was 17 and waited for him to turn 18 before they turned him in. now for the rest of his life he has to register as a sex offender due to a technicality.

morally he shouldn't have posted the pics but if he is the only one to get in trouble for this then the system is so fucked up its unreal. hopefully being a minor this charge will stay on his juvenile record and not his permanent record.

 

[EnderJE]

well, there ya go, we know why you have your position.. i raised 2 girls, and now i have a boy.. so the real issue is the boys parents allowed him to learn from life that revenge at the hands of totally destroying a girls reputation, and life is ok to do..

I'm suspect you still believe that girls are sluts, and boys are great if they have more than 1 sexual partner... now who's old school.. just an assumption on my part...

* off soap box..

the reality of it, he's not a sex offender, he is childish, and needs a good ass beating, he didn't get it when he was younger, now he gets to do it in prison..

take note, this is a good lesson for you, if you own a home, make sure you have the optional liability insurance on it, only adds like $35 year to the premium and you as the parent are financially responsible for damages caused
by your child's actions..

as for him being fcuked for life?? do u think she is injured in any way?? she is the victim in this whole thing after all...

So, let me get this straight. Because you have girls, your opinion is more valid then mine. I mean no disrespect, but that's a pretty weak argument.

Using the same logic, no one should take any credence to any of your opinions of blacks, democrats, world politics, and other items that you don't have direct and personal influence and experience on. Hell, you should even be on this one because you have never posted up a naked picture of a girl on Myspace and see FIRSTHAND the damage that is caused by it.

I believe that the damage to her will be significantly less long term them him. When she applies for a job 40 years from now, they won't see that picture; but they will find out that he's a sex offender and beat his ass again 40 years after the incident.

Don't get me wrong. The guys a douche and should get a ass kicking right now. But to get an ass kicking for the next 40 years (labeled a sex offender)? That's a little much.

 

[EnderJE]

Because pervs are going to take it and trade it in chatrooms all over the world. And cops will find it one day, and start wasting valuable resources trying to 'track down' this girl and make sure she's not being molested. That's more tax dollars to you and me cause of this dipshit.

r

First, I live in Canada. My government has learned to waste money in ways that you haven't even fathomed yet.

Second, I agree that resources would be wasted. However, if I can decide on which resources would be wasted; I wouldn't start with this one (see second line).

 

[javaguru]

Y'know, I'm thinking we should re-enact things like the stocks, seriously. Maybe a little controlled public humiliation might wake these shitheads up.

WTF is wrong with kids anymore? Utterly without class or discrimination.

She was stupid for sending nudes to her boyfriend. He crossed a line of decency in posting the pictures because his pride was hurt. He disrespected the police.

I think Myspace, however, is demon spawn from some twisted dimension, seriously. It's warping the brains of society. I won't fucking go near it.

An ex of mine used to place me #1-#5 on her top friends list based on how pissed off she was at me at the time. She was a 33 year old wiminz too.

 

[bigmann245]

Don't get me wrong. The guys a douche and should get a ass kicking right now. But to get an ass kicking for the next 40 years (labeled a sex offender)? That's a little much.

i agree. he needs some sort of punishment. maybe a shit load of community service or something like that. im surprised myspace people didnt remove the photos. your not aloud to post nude pics on there. they should be to blame as well.

 

[the_alcatraz]

After they broke up he posted her nudie shots on the internet that she took and sent to him while they were dating and refused to take them down.

Personally, I think they're both responsible and the both deserve to face the consequences of their actions.

If he gets charged for child pornography she should as well being that she was the photographer.

you mean she was the photographed person?

And yes....I agree

 

[MichaelScott]

I do not consider him a sex offender. That said, I also do not know the technical criteria for a sex offender. If you've got it, then great. I do understand the emotional outbursts ("think of the kids!") when some is labeled as a sex offender.

If my daughter posted a picture like that, I would first start to look inward to understand why my daughter is taking a picture like that and giving it out to everyone. "But Dad!" She'll say. "I love him and he said that he won't do it!"

At this point, I'll be sad that I did a piss poor job of raising a child who is that naive and blame myself.

Will I hate the guy? Sure. Will I kill him or hurt him? Why? All he did was post up a nude picture of my kid. The killing or hurting desire is only triggered when my kid is raped or murdered.

I wouldn't pushing the child to a degree where he had a permanent record.

Fortunately, I have boys.

just a smart ass kid who thinks he is running something, now he got his dick slapped, good for him

 

[fistfullofsteel]

if you can charge a 16 year old as an adult then you can treat some dumb bitch taking pics of herself as an adult. i would drop the child pornography charge but the other charge stays.

 

[Beaverscratch]

if you can charge a 16 year old as an adult then you can treat some dumb bitch taking pics of herself as an adult. i would drop the child pornography charge but the other charge stays.

Agreed. he should be in legal trouble but not for child porn. She took the pics and sent them to him. She has to take some responsibility for her own child porn pics that she emailed him. Who made the porn? HER

 

[SpyWizard]

So, let me get this straight. Because you have girls, your opinion is more valid then mine. I mean no disrespect, but that's a pretty weak argument.

Using the same logic, no one should take any credence to any of your opinions of blacks, democrats, world politics, and other items that you don't have direct and personal influence and experience on. Hell, you should even be on this one because you have never posted up a naked picture of a girl on Myspace and see FIRSTHAND the damage that is caused by it.

I believe that the damage to her will be significantly less long term them him. When she applies for a job 40 years from now, they won't see that picture; but they will find out that he's a sex offender and beat his ass again 40 years after the incident.

Don't get me wrong. The guys a douche and should get a ass kicking right now. But to get an ass kicking for the next 40 years (labeled a sex offender)? That's a little much.

no no, i'm not saying that my desire to protect the weaker sex (now that's old school right there for sure) is more important or better qualified to state an opinion than you..

As far as the sentencing, did you know that if a person is convicted of domestic violence, they are disqualified to carry a handgun in most states?? , so him being labeled a sex offender doesn't bother me at all..

and my opinions are all based on my life experiences, both in the military, in the fed government, and now as a business owner... so i tend to speak to the issues i have experience with, and i don't with the things i don't have experience with..

How about child molestation?? i can talk about that at length.. Or maybe rape and spousal abuse, and physical and mental abuse of children.. Yep, i can talk about all those things too..

But anyway.. your position is boys will be boys, slap them on the wrist, because the girl is a slut and she has no value in society, i get it.. if that's not your position, that's just how it's coming across.

dang, that sounds harsh, I didn't mean it to come out that way, but i don't know how else to put it without typing yet another paragraph.

 

[dirty~d~]

Wait, the blonde in me is so confused... how can it be child pornography if it is created by an underage to begin with? Isn't it just porn (which is legal in this country, thank god)??

 

[javaguru]

Wait, the blonde in me is so confused... how can it be child pornography if it is created by an underage to begin with? Isn't it just porn (which is legal in this country, thank god)??

It's based exclusively on the age of the individual. Last year they were charging a teenage girl with child pornography for taking pictures of herself and distributing them. If you're taking pictures of an underage person and/or distributing them then you fall under the statute.

 

[needtogetarmy]

After they broke up he posted her nudie shots on the internet that she took and sent to him while they were dating and refused to take them down.

Personally, I think they're both responsible and the both deserve to face the consequences of their actions.

If he gets charged for child pornography she should as well being that she was the photographer.

I think that is fair.

Good judges look at the intent of the legislature when they interpret laws. Clearly the intent of child porn laws is to protect children from exploitation. That is not the case in this situation. IMO the DA is overreacting.

 

[nimbus]

useless withou...

oh, wait

err..carry on

 

[ChefWide]

They should both get 'life' for being assholes.

He should get Herpes Simplex VII and she should get pregnant with quints.






Welcome to 'life'. Welcome to a world where your actions have consequences.



neandrafucks mucking up the genepool. Feh.

 

[javaguru]

I think that is fair.

Good judges look at the intent of the legislature when they interpret laws. Clearly the intent of child porn laws is to protect children from exploitation. That is not the case in this situation. IMO the DA is overreacting.

Trying to teach the douchebag kid a lesson. No judge will sentence him the same way they would sentence an adult. He'll get community control for 3-4 years just to check his attitude toward law and order.

 

[dirty~d~]

It's based exclusively on the age of the individual. Last year they were charging a teenage girl with child pornography for taking pictures of herself and distributing them. If you're taking pictures of an underage person and/or distributing them then you fall under the statute.

Uh, but SHE took the damn pictures! And SHE sent them to him!

 

[plifter]

Another issue is why does everyone automatically consider pictures of a naked teenager to be pornography? By definition of pornography:

pornography

noun
creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire

Nudity does not automatically make a picture pornographic. You could also have a picture that contains no nudity but is still pornographic. Who determines whether something has no artistic value? I guess a jury made of people who are likely to be idiots (based on my estimation that 95% of the world's population are idiots).

 

[javaguru]

Uh, but SHE took the damn pictures! And SHE sent them to him!

I know. The only things that matters under the law is the age of the subject. The one thing I learned in law school is that the law isn't about justice, it's about the law.

 

[needtogetarmy]

Trying to teach the douchebag kid a lesson. No judge will sentence him the same way they would sentence an adult. He'll get community control for 3-4 years just to check his attitude toward law and order.

If the law has minimum sentencing requirements the kid could face jail time. There was a 17 year old up in MA that got 8 years for having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend and that black kid down in GA almost got thrown in the brig for a long time for that BJ he got from the 15 year old.

There are some crazy laws on the books in this nation and sometimes judges have their hands tied.

 

[javaguru]

If the law has minimum sentencing requirements the kid could face jail time. There was a 17 year old up in MA that got 8 years for having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend and that black kid down in GA almost got thrown in the brig for a long time for that BJ he got from the 15 year old.

There are some crazy laws on the books in this nation and sometimes judges have their hands tied.

Which is why judges hate those laws and I agree. Mandatory minimums is law and order pandering. If they do have a mandatory minimum I assume the prosecutor will offer a lesser charge as a plea and still prove their point.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

wait, let me get this straight - everyone here is ok with minors having sex legally, but not taking pictures legally?

LOL

ROFL

ROFLMAO

hahahahahahahahaahaa man some people are fucked

 

[stilleto]

what I don't understand is- if she's a minor, so is he?
the law doesn't differentiate between her being 16 or 6, so why aren't they treating him like he's 7?

 

[Wulfgar]

IMHO
this thread is worthless without said pictures

 

[velvett]

you mean she was the photographed person?

And yes....I agree

Well, she was the photographer but she was also the one photographed.

 

[plifter]

Someone please tell me how a picture of her naked is considered pornographic!

 

[SpyWizard]

Another issue is why does everyone automatically consider pictures of a naked teenager to be pornography? By definition of pornography:

pornography

noun
creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire

Nudity does not automatically make a picture pornographic. You could also have a picture that contains no nudity but is still pornographic. Who determines whether something has no artistic value? I guess a jury made of people who are likely to be idiots (based on my estimation that 95% of the world's population are idiots).

"I knows it when i sees it"

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