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TB 500 log

Chemaltered

Chemaltered

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Hey all, I’ve been dealing with shoulder tightness and impingement the last few months.

To get ahead of this I have employed Physical Therapy,chiropractic, and sports massage on a weekly basis. I have been doing this for months.

I started TB 500 from the wonderful folks at DS 3 weeks ago.

I like dosing things eod so that’s what I did here.

I’m 6’ 200 pounds and I am around 10% Bf(avi pic is me)

2.5mg eod (approx 9mg/wk)

The dosing will be dialed down in week 5.

So far this is my experience:

Week 1- no noticeable change

Week 2- less pain, more range of motion

Week 3-much less pain, range of motion improving

I have read week 4 is where the magic starts to happen, so far I’m impressed.

I am continuing with PT,massage, and chiropractic. Weight training is limited upper body, but I am training lower and core 2x per week.

I have had more progress in 3 weeks than I have in months.

I will update more when I finish up and have a moment.

So far I’m a TB 500 fan!


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you should have noticed a boost to recovery and endurance during workouts

i also recommend inversion table and yoga over chiropractor (not a believer in it). also PT a lot of times is of no help to weight lifters. they are too used to helping old farts with zero strength. even a sports PT isn't gonna help us much cause we are already too strong
 
stevesmi said:
you should have noticed a boost to recovery and endurance during workouts

i also recommend inversion table and yoga over chiropractor (not a believer in it). also PT a lot of times is of no help to weight lifters. they are too used to helping old farts with zero strength. even a sports PT isn't gonna help us much cause we are already too strong
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Great insight, and yes I have had noticeably better endurance, leg day was phenomenal this week.

And I agree, after todays session I’m done with PT, kind of a waste. I will check out the inversion table.

Thank you for bringing that up, I was so focused on healing, the endurance slipped my mind.


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Chemaltered said:
Hey all, I’ve been dealing with shoulder tightness and impingement the last few months.

To get ahead of this I have employed Physical Therapy,chiropractic, and sports massage on a weekly basis. I have been doing this for months.

I started TB 500 from the wonderful folks at DS 3 weeks ago.

I like dosing things eod so that’s what I did here.

I’m 6’ 200 pounds and I am around 10% Bf(avi pic is me)

2.5mg eod (approx 9mg/wk)

The dosing will be dialed down in week 5.

So far this is my experience:

Week 1- no noticeable change

Week 2- less pain, more range of motion

Week 3-much less pain, range of motion improving

I have read week 4 is where the magic starts to happen, so far I’m impressed.

I am continuing with PT,massage, and chiropractic. Weight training is limited upper body, but I am training lower and core 2x per week.

I have had more progress in 3 weeks than I have in months.

I will update more when I finish up and have a moment.

So far I’m a TB 500 fan!
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thanks for sharing this log, we've been waiting on your log for a while

can you post up some training sets and reps and your diet
 
Happy to post up what I’m eating and how I’m training.

I’ll start with eating: I try and “intuitively” eat, but I do keep protein as a priority, and my daily target is always 250 grams+.

Calories are usually in the 3,500-3,850 range and this is maintenance for me at this training level.

I typically fast ~16/8 and start meals post workout which is normally around 10-11am. I have a protein shake immediately post workout. 3 scoops whey protein, 10gr glutamine, almond milk, PB2.

I will then eat a large meal around 1pm. Yesterday was beef tenderloin 24 ounces, 2 cups mashed potatoes.

Dinner was 16 ounces chicken breast salt & pepper. 3 cups brown rice

Snacks are typically hard boiled eggs, PB & J sandwich’s, glass of skim milk, and I eat alot of apples and bananas.

My diet doesn’t change much, I will swap pork in once in a while, but mainly meat & potatoes, high protein, and I keep an 8 hour or shorter eating window.

This is enjoyable and easy to follow, and it keeps me right at 200 pounds which feels good for now. Of course I would like to try and push for 210-215 but that will take years. All in due time.

Training is as follows:

Lower body- M & Th

“Rehab” upper exercises- Tue & Fri

Liss/sauna/stretching (M-Fri)

Saturday is option day and often involves a short walk or a hike. Lately it has been an additional rest day.

Sunday- day of rest

Liss is self explanatory, but I mix it up. 4-8 mile hikes,4-6 mile jogs, at least 2 days a week is a brisk uphill 3.5 mile walk on a treadmill.

The upper body training is limited at this point, but I have been doing considerable cable work with light weights and high reps primarily trying to strengthen the shoulder.

I am also focusing on building my Lats to balance my posture and overall physique better.

Upper looks like this right now:

Seated rows wide- 4x12

Seated rows narrow- 4 x12

Incline rows- 4x15

Decline rows- 4x15

Lat pulldowns- 4x15

Low back extensions- 4x15

Ab cables 4x15

Crunches 4x50

Push-ups 3x 50

Pull ups body weight only 3x12

Chest flys 4x15

Military press 4x12

Incline press 3x10

Bicep curls (3 variations) 3x12

Tricep presses 4x15




Leg day is as follows:

Squats- 4x15

Leg press 4x12

Ham curls- 4x 15

Quad extensions 4x15

Calf raises 4x15

Lunge walks carrying 50lb dumbbells 50 yards x 5


Currently this is what I’m doing, I’m feeling better, stronger, and I am sleeping better as my comfort has increased since beginning this protocol.

I am training rather light, but volume is reasonable.

I will likely take both rest days this week, I often try to do too much and I am trying to give my body time to recover.

I hope this is what you were looking for, I’m happy to post more, answer questions as my schedule permits.

Like I said previously, I’m impressed so far, and wouldn’t hesitate to give tb 500 a try if you have any nagging injuries.

More to come…




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Nice log. Thanks for sharing. Your not alone in shoulder pain. Try ice on the shoulder after work out. It has helped mine. They say heating pad also good choice. I like the ice better.
Keep it up, and keep the log going.


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Week 4:

Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate!

I just wrapped up week #4, and I am feeling much better. I had read there was some “magic” with TB that starts around week 4, and some could be placebo, but I really do have more range of motion and less pain.

I am experiencing increased endurance which was very noticeable on leg days last week.

I kept the same training split, but added a rest day for the Holiday.

The diet was 80/20, and it is safe to say I had a slight surplus last week, but all is dialed back in to my normal eating habits.


Other pertinent facts:

I am using my trt dose of 50mg eod which is 175/wk. this has me trough around 850, some say too much, but I feel great here.

I also take 2.5 iu Ed Growth hormone year round with small excursions to 4 here and there. Currently 2.5/day

N2guard 7 caps a day
Nac 1,000mg/day
Fish oil 6 gr/day


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Chemaltered said:
Week 4:

Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate!

I just wrapped up week #4, and I am feeling much better. I had read there was some “magic” with TB that starts around week 4, and some could be placebo, but I really do have more range of motion and less pain.

I am experiencing increased endurance which was very noticeable on leg days last week.

I kept the same training split, but added a rest day for the Holiday.

The diet was 80/20, and it is safe to say I had a slight surplus last week, but all is dialed back in to my normal eating habits.


Other pertinent facts:

I am using my trt dose of 50mg eod which is 175/wk. this has me trough around 850, some say too much, but I feel great here.

I also take 2.5 iu Ed Growth hormone year round with small excursions to 4 here and there. Currently 2.5/day

N2guard 7 caps a day
Nac 1,000mg/day
Fish oil 6 gr/day
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happy thanksgiving to you too
did you stuff lots of food? ;)

175mgs test/week is perfect actually dont change if it works

can you share more about your eating? meals etc
 
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This is what my meals typically look like. All are recent meals, steaks are always 16-26 ounces, sweet potatoes or potatoes for a side, and I eat PB&J on toast daily.

I have been filling in with my whey protein 3 scoop shake with almond milk.

Snack is typically whole wheat cereal or cheerios with high protein milk.

Cals still around 3,700, protein 250+

Hope the pics come through[emoji120]


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I took it at the same dosage for my back and week 3 or 4 is when I was finally pain free.
I agree the inversion tables helped with pain relief and will speed up the recovery process. I still use them regularly.
 
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