Tanning: How to minimalize any potential problems.

[Fonz]

Seems that we've had quite a few people who've gotten melanoma scares.

Anyways, I'm writing this to make people aware that there are things you can do to pretty much minimalize any tanning problems to just about zero.

Your body forms melanin in response to UV Rays. Its the bodies defense mechanism. Once melanin production stops while you're on a UV bed or outside, the UV rays bypass the epidermal layer(That is now saturated with melanin) of your skin and cause damage to the cells. Which depending on the time exposed can mutate into cancerous cells.

What can you do?(These are all OTC supplements...I will not touch upon the melanin boosters as they are for the more advanced)

- Increase your bodies ability to generate melanin in response to UV rays.

1. L-Tyrosine is the limiting agent in melanin synthesis. 4g L-
tyrosine, 1hr before sun exposure is recommended. This
should also increase the colour of your tan(More melanin
being synthesized and prolong your tan as well.

- Take Cellular protectants. This in case the UV rays bypass your
epidermal layer. Take these 1hr before sun exposure.

1. R-ALA: 200mg or ALA: 600mg
2. Green tea: 1000mg(Standardized for 98%polyphenols and
60% Catechins...or more if you can get it)
3. Acetyl-L-Carnitine: 1500mg. ALA/R-ALA+ AlCar act
synergistically in protecting your cells from outside agents like
UV rays.
4. A combination of Vit. C(1g) and Vit. E(400IU). Also remember
that R-ALA/ALA recycles Vit. C and Vit. E...so these dosages go
a long way.

- So, to sum it up...before UV bed tanning or outdoor tanning
(apart from your sunscreen etc..)

1. 4g L-Tyrosine
2. 200mg R-ALA or 600mg ALA
3. 1000mg Green Tea(98% Polyphenols 60% Catechins)
4. 1500mg Acetyl-L-Carnitine
5. 1g Vit. C and 400IU Vit. E

Thats it. Not expensive at all, and it will definately give you piece of mind. I have been tanning outdoors and indoors for 6 years using this stack, and have never had any problems whatsoever.

Fonz

 

[superbigzane]

nice fonz, interesting read.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

a good zinc and copper supplement (as both are essential for melanin production)-

you will find that copper in particular is a common ingredient in the high end tanning lotions (as is l-tyrosine)

 

[variation]

lol, is there anything you don't use R-ala/green tea and acetyl-l-carnitine for?

 

[buckwheat1]

lycopene , lutein and also astaxanthin (orally). To find more details just do a search on one of them + UV and you find info.

I think they rated the potential of lycopene at SPF 3.
I think all of these are good to take so added UV protection is a bonus.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Why not just use a sunscreen? I like a 6. Sun has plenty of health benefits including inrcreasing hormone production. Just don't be an idiot and stay out too long.

Tyrosine supposedly increases melanin production but I suspect how effecive it is.

C is important for collegan but I doubt if any of the other supplements mentioned do anything at all.I guess you can say any anti-oxidant is benificial in some way.

 

[_Yossarian_]

lol, is there anything you don't use R-ala/green tea and acetyl-l-carnitine for?

I was thinking the same thing....

 

[40butpumpin]

i'd add resveratrol to that list.

 

[Fonz]

i'd add resveratrol to that list.

LOL...we want to keep things relatively simple. If not, you'd have to take 50 pills to the tanning salon or beach just to tan.
The ones I mentioned are the most important and effective.

Fonz

 

[onedieselboy]

good post fonz!!

 

[pharmguy]

those abs are pretty sick fonz

 

[40butpumpin]

LOL...we want to keep things relatively simple. If not, you'd have to take 50 pills to the tanning salon or beach just to tan.
The ones I mentioned are the most important and effective.

Fonz

LMAO.

 

[b1ewsw32]

Thanks Fonz for the excellent melanin stack.
As you know I will be embarking on a journey with most of those supps. for fat-burning and cognitive boosting benefits.

I was aware of the L-Tyrosine converting to dopa via uva and uvb stimulation and recomended it in a post regarding tanning, a coupleof months ago.
Will 4 gms cause excessive stimulation? What is your(and all members) experience with high doses of tyro. as it can raise dopamine levels quite effectively which may cause excess stim.

On the flip-side of that coin, tyrosine converts into dopamine and norpenephrine. Dopamine first which I read has a blood pressure lowering effect, then nor-epi which has a raising effect.So as far as stim. from a blood pressure mechanism of action,there's no cause for concern.

I have some great tyrosine on hand and am eager to give it a try,for tanning,inducing a focused/vigilant state of mind for lifting and I heard by some that it can actually calm down the jitters from fat burners. Can you please comment on this....Thanks.

B32...

 

[tiger88]

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1. 4g L-Tyrosine
2. 200mg R-ALA or 600mg ALA
3. 1000mg Green Tea(98% Polyphenols 60% Catechins)
4. 1500mg Acetyl-L-Carnitine
5. 1g Vit. C and 400IU Vit. E

Thats it. Not expensive at all, and it will definately give you piece of mind. I have been tanning outdoors and indoors for 6 years using this stack, and have never had any problems whatsoever.

Fonz

can all these found in a GNC???? i hate buying things though the mail...

 

[buckwheat1]

I think the idea is to get a tan and using supplements to increase the tan and to reduce the damage. I mentioned that lycopene SPF of 3. I believe that is saying that it prevents UV damage rather then prevents the UV light from entering the skin like sun block does. The studies show that subjects using lycopene, lutein did not get sunburned as quickly as someone who had not taken the supplements. What is not clear is if the tanning process is still stimulated as much or if it is reduced also.

 

[bigsonrising]

DAMN, I'm sick of buyin supps, juice for my cycle, supps for post-cycle, V for sex, liver protectors, sleepin aids.......and NOW....

TANNING SUPPS, fuck that...lol

 

[Fonz]

Re: Re: Tanning: How to minimalize any potential problems.

can all these found in a GNC???? i hate buying things though the mail...

1,2,4,5.....yes.

4...no. All the Green Tea extracts available retail are shit.

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

I think the idea is to get a tan and using supplements to increase the tan and to reduce the damage. I mentioned that lycopene SPF of 3. I believe that is saying that it prevents UV damage rather then prevents the UV light from entering the skin like sun block does. The studies show that subjects using lycopene, lutein did not get sunburned as quickly as someone who had not taken the supplements. What is not clear is if the tanning process is still stimulated as much or if it is reduced also.

SPF 3 won't do a thing btw.

I use oil-free SPF 45 from Neutrogena anytime I'm in the sun for a long time, or go to a tanning bed.

Fonz

 

[Gel]

Fonz, I know this is a bit off topic but re: your 100mg Var cutter, do you think the 100mg ED made a difference compared to a 60mg ED doseage as some peeps report anything above 60mg ED is a waste?

Gel

 

[Nelson Montana]

Since SPF 15 pretty much cuts all UVA rays, anything higher is a waste. Also, if you cut all UVA you lose some of the benefits. Plus, you have a greater chance of getting skin cancer if you're overexposed to too much UVB , even if you don't burn.

Common sense folks. Everythig in moderation. This concept of doing stupid things, then corecting it with supps and drugs is not the best course.

 

[Fonz]

Since SPF 15 pretty much cuts all UVA rays, anything higher is a waste. Also, if you cut all UVA you lose some of the benefits. Plus, you have a greater chance of getting skin cancer if you're overexposed to too much UVB , even if you don't burn.

Common sense folks. Everythig in moderation. This concept of doing stupid things, then corecting it with supps and drugs is not the best course.

Not really Nelson. It depends on your skin type.
Go to any tanning Salon and they will have a huge list of the different skin types.
SPF 15 would probably cover mediterraneans that are used to the sun, BUT it won't cover say a scottish guy who is very white.
He needs more protection because he burns easily.
Also depends at what time of the day you're exposed to the sun. Peak UV radiation occurrs at around 12:30-1:30 PM in most places.

If you think SPF 15 protects everybody, get a little boy and put him out in the sun withy just an SPF 15. He'll burn to a crisp.
Why do you think there exist SPF 60's? For babies and young kids who's skin is still very sensitive.

Fonz

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

Fonz, I know this is a bit off topic but re: your 100mg Var cutter, do you think the 100mg ED made a difference compared to a 60mg ED doseage as some peeps report anything above 60mg ED is a waste?

Gel

I wouldn't call it a cutter per se.

I had to go up to 100mg Papervar/day in order to completely stop any muscle loss from my high intensity cardio(soccer).
If I wasn't in soccer season, I would probably use 40-60mg Var/day. No more.

Fonz

 

[Paulo]

You know, I read that anything over SPF 25 is not really possible anyways. Which, I tend to agree with. What is meant by impossible is that there is only so much protection that a clear liquid can provide. So unless you use house paint...

I am primarily of German descent, with a tad Irish and English. So, I am definitely a whitey. I use 15 all day long without problems. Even when playing in the water.

Paulo

 

[Singleton]

I use oil-free SPF 45 from Neutrogena anytime I'm in the sun for a long time, or go to a tanning bed.

Fonz

Neutrogena makes the one of the cheapest sunblocks with Titanium Dioxide as the active ingredient. Most other sunblocks are carcinogenic.

As far as copper goes, the best way to get it is by using the lotions on www.skinbio.com. I recommend the body smoothing lotion as a very good buy.

Cellox-C is good stuff, too. The L-ascorbic acid is stable and will pass the skin barrier, unlike all other vitamin-c based skin lotions (don't waste your money). But at $125 / bottle, I'll pass.

 

[buckwheat1]

When taking tyrosine for tanning purposes should you take it on a empty stomach so that it won't compete with other amino acids. I know this is an issue when trying to have tryrosine cross the BB to increase L-DOPA -> Dopamine.

Do you think the acetyl version could be used?

 

[tiger88]

i was just re reading this and i will bump it so others can read this.....again thanx fonz