great post, very informative. My query is that I had a cycle a year ago that consisted of tren/proponaite/anadiol for 5 weeks and only used nalva 20mg ED, legalon ED since day 1 of cycle. my full testesterone test before the cycle was 15.2 nmol/l whereas I was 22 years old back and 2 months after the cycle it was at 10.9 nmol/l, today i recieved my new tests which showed them at 12.4 nmol/l, my dr said thats a normal number for a 23 yr old, now im thinking of starting a 5 weeks cycle that consists of tren parabolan 300mg per weel / primobolan 400-500 mg per week / winstrol 50mg twice a week, as you can see this is a non-estrogenic cycle, so what PCT do u recommend and should i use HCG before the cycle to let my test level go up or should i do it at the end or i shouldnt use hcg because im on a short cycle?