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T3 FAQ: Everything you need to know about T3

My reasoning is " that's what doctors say?"
I think you need to re-read the psot bro. It's more than that. But just because a lot of doctors are in the dark regarding steroids doesn't mean that everything they say is wrong.

And when I say someone has to be fucking moron to take T3, it isn't meant as a put down of anybody. It means that the act of using the drug is moronic -- but some people don't know that.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Okay, fair enough Big.

Being a journalist in the field I'm in close constant contact with all sorts of people in the medical field. Obviously, I know a lot of docs on roids and the understanding is unanimous that the public perception is misconcieved. But talk to almost any doctor, especially an endo, and they will tell you, that the thyroid is a very delicate gland and the use of T3 can cause irreperable damage.


I'm not going to mention any names but I personally know of one bodybuilder and a fitness model who overused levothyroxin to stay cut for photo session and now, they're on it for life.


These are the only two items in your post that tell me why t3 is dangerous. The first one is that any doctor will tell you t3 can cause irreperable damage and the other is that you know a bodybuilder and a fitness model that have had serious problems due to thyroid medication.

I am not faulting your conclusion, the risks of t3 may outweigh the rewards. I just don't see how you come to the conclusion you do. And in all honesty I probably never will.
 
chronic: Come to think of it, I can only think of one reason not to step in front of a moving car and that is, it'll probably hurt. Then again, I don't have studies to back that up. Sure, there are plenty of doctors who will agree but that doesn't mean anything.

As my grandma used to say; Some people refuse to see the nose in front of their own face. And as you say yourself....probably never will.
 
Chronic i think Nelson has a little bit more experience than you. U should of quit while u were ahead, but then again you never were...
 
ThaGame.

If you read my post I was ending the discussion (ahead or behind). Just curious why you think Nelson as more experience than I. And please don't say post count.
 
I don't think posts count at all, look at mine man
Nelson's post are always informational and complex, he knows his shit. i'm not saying u don't, i am just saying i agree with nelson on this one.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I'm not going to mention any names but I personally know of one bodybuilder and a fitness model who overused levothyroxin to stay cut for photo session and now, they're on it for life.

Nelson -

Isn't levothyroxine T-4 and not T-3?

I believe it makes sense that T-4 would have these effects, as you would be shutting down your own natty T3 production via negative feedback from the T4, and because you would be in calorie deficit, you also wouldn't be converting ANY of that T4 to T3, so yeah, taking T4 for extended periods would screw you up bad.

But do you really think that low dose (12.5mcg) per day of T3 would have that same suppresive effect?
 
SlateDrake: You have it backwards.

Yes, levo is T4, but the body converts T4 into T3. That's the natural process. So in effect, T4 is safer, because it allows the body to still do what's t's supposed to do. (Even though it's an exogenous source and can still supress the thyroid.)

Hypothyroidism occurs when the body can no longer convert T4 into T3. That's what makes taking T3 so dangerous. The thyroid doesn't do ANYTHING when that much T3 is present. it assumes there is TOO MUCH and comes to a standstill. When you go off the T3, the thyroid might spring back into action -- it might not. It might take a while -- it might never come back. Taking T3 is playing with fire. For what?
 
Perhaps I am misinformed about this but doesn't some anabolics, like fina, repress thyroid function? If that is the case wouldn't it make sense to take a replacement dose of t3 like about 10-12 mcg/day?
 
mt said:
Perhaps I am misinformed about this but doesn't some anabolics, like fina, repress thyroid function? If that is the case wouldn't it make sense to take a replacement dose of t3 like about 10-12 mcg/day?

All steroids affect your thyroid...Tren and Anavar seem to be the worst culprits (Interestingly, those two drugs are known for there Fat burning abilities)
 
So, if all steroids affect thyroid function why wouldn't it be a good idea to take a low dose to compensate?
 
Dial_tone said:
Even after reading this thread I'm still not sure how to cycle T3 in my situation.
I'm about to start a year of short AS cycles: Four rounds of 2 weeks on/4 weeks off ending with an 8-week break then three rounds of 3 weeks on/4 weeks off ending with another 8 week break. Cutting cycle type AS, NO bulking.
Seeing how I have a good amt of fat I would shed (30-35 lbs) how I can best work in T3 and NYC in here?
Will be doing regular cardio; I love it anyway.

Not too sure about this one, I don't think T3 is for you in this case.
 
Nelson Montana said:
SlateDrake: You have it backwards.

Yes, levo is T4, but the body converts T4 into T3. That's the natural process. So in effect, T4 is safer, because it allows the body to still do what's t's supposed to do. (Even though it's an exogenous source and can still supress the thyroid.)

Hypothyroidism occurs when the body can no longer convert T4 into T3. That's what makes taking T3 so dangerous. The thyroid doesn't do ANYTHING when that much T3 is present. it assumes there is TOO MUCH and comes to a standstill. When you go off the T3, the thyroid might spring back into action -- it might not. It might take a while -- it might never come back. Taking T3 is playing with fire. For what?

According to my doctor, who works at NASA where I think he used this shit in the space program, T3 will not suppress you in a reasonable dose for a reasonable length of time (I said 100mcg for 2 months), but T4 will. Its one doctor, but hey, thought it was worth saying.

The fact that you contradict him Nelson, makes me kinda wary of your thoughts on this. Maybe I'll go see him for some sleeping pills and ask him for more information.

This is the same doctor that gave me the go ahead for 500mg of test cyp/week for 8 weeks, but questioned my long term goal and whether I could just do one cycle.
 
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Dial_tone said:
Pffft, you call that an answer? LOL
J/K.

:)

Well use of T3 is going to shut you down for 4-6 weeks after cessation. So you need to wait at least 8 weeks between cycles.

You can use it, but you can't time it with your use of AS.
 
This has been an awesome post BA and gave some reference points. I do have a question about the effects of T3 (bought some) on a person who is taking insulin? I am diabetic. Thank you
 
damn good post Andy, this is definitely being saved to a disk!!

Whiskey
 
Barak said:
This has been an awesome post BA and gave some reference points. I do have a question about the effects of T3 (bought some) on a person who is taking insulin? I am diabetic. Thank you

Humm, T3 uses up a lot of carbs, I don't think you should messing with it...
 
I wish T-3 actually did something for me. (that I can see anyway)
 
I have the liquid T3, 100mcg's/ml. If I go for the 12.5 mcg's for 4-6 weeks do I need to do the post cycle recovery which is alot of HIIT cardio? Will my thyroid quickly go back to normal after a cycle of 12.5 mcg's a day?
 
IM Iron Man said:
I have the liquid T3, 100mcg's/ml. If I go for the 12.5 mcg's for 4-6 weeks do I need to do the post cycle recovery which is alot of HIIT cardio? Will my thyroid quickly go back to normal after a cycle of 12.5 mcg's a day?

I think it would stand to reason that the lower the dose the quicker the recovery. Recovery from 100mg/test would be much quicker than 900mg/wk. 12.5 is barely a replacement dose (which is OK since a low carb diet will drop your normal thyroid production). I don't think that cardio will necessarily increase thyroid production though it will alleviate any rebound weight gain. I think using the various supplements designed to elevate and stimulate thyroid would be a must do. I think something like Zip from the Protein Factory would be a good start though I would just buy the ingredients separately from somewhere like Beyond a Century to save money.

http://proteinfactory.com/store/pro...d=108&osCsid=887f91941c1d91f7f9656880086dff8c
 
this thread should be moved to best of elite
 
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