T3 FAQ: Everything you need to know about T3

[pryncess]

Hey this is a great post. I've been trying to figure out the right way to use T3 -- there is SO much conflicting info. I had a couple more questions??

Any specific recommendations for females and any substitutes for the clen?? Something legal and not detectable?? Clen made me shake so bad, I looked like a drug addict--I can't play that off plus I get randomed all the time.

Was thinking about running 4wks at 12.5--do you need the other stuff with this sort of cycle?? What about using phosphorus supplements afterwards--not sure if applicable heard they keep thyroid levels from dropping during low cal dieting???? Also, what about using prohormones--Androsol is a spray so I can use in lower doses. How long could you run low dose and how long would you need to cycle off?? Any thoughts???

 

[BigAndy69]

Hey this is a great post. I've been trying to figure out the right way to use T3 -- there is SO much conflicting info. I had a couple more questions??

Any specific recommendations for females and any substitutes for the clen?? Something legal and not detectable?? Clen made me shake so bad, I looked like a drug addict--I can't play that off plus I get randomed all the time.

Was thinking about running 4wks at 12.5--do you need the other stuff with this sort of cycle?? What about using phosphorus supplements afterwards--not sure if applicable heard they keep thyroid levels from dropping during low cal dieting???? Also, what about using prohormones--Androsol is a spray so I can use in lower doses. How long could you run low dose and how long would you need to cycle off?? Any thoughts???

As far as prohormones I have no clue.

I put a friend of mine on 10mg of winny and 50mcg of clen and she is seeing tremendous results.

Women should be careful with T3(and Hormone drugs in general), the female hormone system is much more sensitive than a man's

As far as a T3 cycle, 12.5mcg of a high quality T3 like JPI Jones cytomel for a few weeks should suffice.

A combo of T3 and Yohimbine HCL would be killer for women.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I didn't read the entire thread, but here goes.

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT T3:

If you take it, without there being a medical need for it, you're a fucking moron.
No offence Big Andy, but you're basing your opinion on an artcle from T--Mag??? Holy shit bro, you're better off reading the horoscope in TV Guide for more accurate information.

Don't do it folks. They'll be lots of people who swear they have no problems, but then...

 

[chronic2371]

If you take it, without there being a medical need for it, you're a fucking moron. ...

Care to elaborate as to why.

 

[Big'N Heavy]

Question for you Nelson, I respect everyones opinion but i see a lot of times you post that how people do stuff is totally wrong but where is your data to back these claims up?? A lot of the stuff people do on these boards is done out of experimenting; some things people do is SAFER(and when i say safer i mean looking out for there body and mind because these are chemicals) way of trying stuff while with others it totally is not. My problem is I see you post how this and that is bad and you should do this and that but I dont see any scientific back up to your claims nor most of the advice you are giving and i will say it other people do it too and most of the things you and other discuss is medical in nature, so do you have a medical degree or have scientific info to back up what you say or are u blowing steam out your ass. I read your background on your webpage, and for the most part seems to me you have done a bit of drugs but have been natural so I assume you have absolutely no life experience with these types of chemicals, so where does your info come from? I dont mean to get on your case but you always seem to think you are in the right and everyone else on these boards are complete idiots with the things they do so a bit more explaining where you are coming from might help more people out. Also by no means do i say the medical community is always right either because there is close minded people in the field but the reality of things are these substances people use effect the body and to me from what i know from you, you have no experience with and must be getting it from somewhere else. If i am wrong about you i apoligize but it is hard being associated with this type of backround to hear someone say their opinion and not give a reason. If you can clear anything up would help a lot for me and maybe some others

Big

 

[Nelson Montana]

Okay, fair enough Big.

Being a journalist in the field I'm in close constant contact with all sorts of people in the medical field. Obviously, I know a lot of docs on roids and the understanding is unanimous that the public perception is misconcieved. But talk to almost any doctor, especially an endo, and they will tell you, that the thyroid is a very delicate gland and the use of T3 can cause irreperable damage.

Just because someone can use it and recover, doesn't mean damage hasnt been done.

I'm particularly familiar with hypothyroidism, because I have it. No, it isn't from T3 (although my experimenting with clen and ephedra probably didn't help). It was from a breakdown of the arenal system caused by severe stress and trauma. I didn't believe that was possible. What's especially relevant is that the trauma occured 2 years prior to the thyroid malfuction. That goes to show you that not only is the thyroid hypersensitive, it can breakdown from just the slightest stress from a previous experience.

What makes the use of T3 so idiotic for bodybuilders is that it's a huge gamble for a very small payoff. You can't possibly keep the fat off once you go off the drug. The thyroid will be suppressed causing a possbible INCREASE if fat. I mean, it's just so stupid!

I'm not going to mention any names but I personally know of one bodybuilder and a fitness model who overused levothyroxin to stay cut for photo session and now, they're on it for life.

Call me crazy or old fashioned, but I believe the bodybuilding lifestle is based on health. The fact that people are even disputing the potential dangers is a sad commentary in itself.

I realize there will always be fools who are going to do whatever they want, so my statements are for those who are perhaps younger and more impressionable. Anyone who says T3 "isn't that bad" is terribly mistaken and anyone who takes it for a temporary cosmetic fix is a fucking moron. It's your call.

 

[BigAndy69]

I didn't read the entire thread, but here goes.

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT T3:

If you take it, without there being a medical need for it, you're a fucking moron.
No offence Big Andy, but you're basing your opinion on an artcle from T--Mag??? Holy shit bro, you're better off reading the horoscope in TV Guide for more accurate information.

Don't do it folks. They'll be lots of people who swear they have no problems, but then...

LOL, T-mag? Yes, Bruce Kneller did find one of those studies for me but all I did was give him credit.

When I'm about to put something in my body I research for months...PubMed, Medline, Library books, personnal experiences, everything I can get my hands on.

Nelson, I do agree that T3 use is not a good idea, and to tell you the truth I regret using it. But People are going to use it no matter what, you may as well provide the best info you can.

I don't think that T3 at 6.25-12.5mcg is a dangerous dose, and I would use that amount again but never 25mcg and up.

 

[chronic2371]

Being a journalist in the field I'm in close constant contact with all sorts of people in the medical field.

Is this the same medical community that has been telling me for years that steroids are bad for me and don't even work?

To say anyone that uses t3 is a fucking moron just seems to be short sighted. It is a risk vs. reward. You need to decide if the potential risk associated with its use is worth the results you will see. By your logic I could say anyone who has liposuction is a moron. People have died because of complications experience from lipo surgery. Does that mean it is unsafe for everybody. No, I don't beleive so.

BTW, I have never used T3. (I didn't want you to think I was a fucking moron)

 

[Nelson Montana]

chronic: if you read 2 sentences past what you quoted of me you would have answered your own question. But I guess it's easier to take things out of context and react to it than to formulate an intelligent opinion.
I also see where you're trying to go with the lipo , but it isnt analogous. If you're referring to the surgery I had, there hasn't been a single death attributed to it. The ratio of complications from lipo is about one in every ten thousand and in those cases it's because too much work was being done at one time, the patient had heath problems or the doctor wasn't board certified for cosmetic surgery. Comparing an outpatient procedure by a qualfied physician to the indiscriminate and unmonitored use of a dangerous drug for TEMPORARY weight loss, is pretty ridiculous. It sounds like you just have a beef with me and are trying to make point, but you didn't do it very well.
Why are you defending T3 use?

 

[chronic2371]

I am not defending t3 use Nelson. What I am saying is that because someone chooses to use t3 does not classify them a "fucking moron".

I don't have a beef with you Nelson. I have read many of you posts and have found quite a few of them to be quite insightful.
You seem to make a pretty strong point about t3 and your reasoning is "because thats what doctors say."