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Sustanon vs. Test Enthanate

What injectable has the least side effects?

  • Deca

    Votes: 47 14.2%

  • Sustanon 250

    Votes: 94 28.4%

  • Test Enth

    Votes: 129 39.0%

  • Test Prop

    Votes: 61 18.4%
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BIGJuice

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About 1.5 months ago I did a 5 week cycle of only dianabol with nolvadex and post cycle clomid. I saw good size gains and have held about 10 pounds. However, I now want to get larger and more cut with a safe injectable. What are some of the long term/short term effects of Test Enthanate and Sustanon...Hair loss? Liver toxicity? etc. Can I drink while on them, as I did not on dianabol? What counter measures are absolutely necessary besides nolva and clomid, if anything? I am 19, 5'9" and 185 lbs and I would like to get up to 200 or 205 lbs maybe a little more. If this is my only injectable cycle, will it be safe to say that there will be no bad permanaent effects, most likely? My proposed cycle if I do Sust is:

500 mg. a week Sust
Nolvadex
Post cycle Clomid

So Sust or Test? I just want an easy beginner cycle taht will build me a base. If I decide oral, how do people feel about andriol. Thanks
 
am 19, 5'9" and 185 lbs and I would like to get up to 200 or 205 lbs maybe a little more. If this is my only injectable cycle, will it be safe to say that there will be no bad permanaent effects, most likely?
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Injectables are much safer and have far fewer side effects than orals. They are mostly non liver toxic. Most people are going to say your too young to start steroids and you definately need to tell how long you've been lifting, but my first cycle was:

500mg/week sust 250: inject 250 mon, 250 thurs
clomid post cycle


So Sust or Test?
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Sust is test
 
i dont know why peole enjoy running long acting esters.. its just a waste of time and unhealthy..

better have fast acting stuff like suspension so ur cycles are 10 times shorter and more effective. and safer..

thats why my favorite stack is

Suspension / Tren / Dbol(or anadrol)
 
Agreed. Drinking on your cycle is not only unhealthy, it will inhibit your gains.

If I have to pick a test I like prop. Primarily because I generally run tren with test, and already do daily injections, so I mix my prop and tren in the same syringe.
 
i have almost no sides on sust and ive used doses up to about 700mg/wk. the only other one from the list i have used is prop which for me had slightly more sides than sust even at much lower doses.
 
I know we are here to help out and reply to your question, but I think more research is needed on your part.

So Sust or Test? I just want an easy beginner cycle taht will build me a base. If I decide oral, how do people feel about andriol. Thanks
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You are talking as if sust and test are 2 different things bro. Sustanon is testosterone jsut a blend of four different esters ok. There are more than a few different esters of testosterone out there, what you have to do is research them and figure out which one suits you.

What are some of the long term/short term effects of Test Enthanate and Sustanon...Hair loss? Liver toxicity? etc. Can I drink while on them, as I did not on dianabol? What counter measures are absolutely necessary besides nolva and clomid, if anything?
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This board is for helping people out but you need to know what steroids are and what they do in your body bro. Don't do a cycle if you dont know what you are putting into your body other than the name of the drug got it?
 
UFC22 said:
I know we are here to help out and reply to your question, but I think more research is needed on your part.



You are talking as if sust and test are 2 different things bro. Sustanon is testosterone jsut a blend of four different esters ok. There are more than a few different esters of testosterone out there, what you have to do is research them and figure out which one suits you.



This board is for helping people out but you need to know what steroids are and what they do in your body bro. Don't do a cycle if you dont know what you are putting into your body other than the name of the drug got it?
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Absolutely right! And very well said, he wasn't a prick. Yeah, I think you just need to research a little more. Sustanon is TEST as mentioned, it has four acting esters 2 which are fast acting and 2 which are slow acting thats why SUST is so effective and stackable.

My first cycle ever was just SUST @ 750mg a week for ten weeks I put on 21 pounds and kept 17. I was really happy with the results and man I ate like freakin' pig my mom thought I was nuts.

Your cycle is good and your question valid but these are questions you could answer on your own with some research, thats why people are saying to look it up.

Happy searching and Good Luck with the cycle Bro!


GUESS ;)
 
And one more thing, I like to tip the bottle qiut a bit but when on I never drink, it prevents the formation of protein within the muscle thus preventing maximum gains.
 
superbigzane said:
i dont know why peole enjoy running long acting esters.. its just a waste of time and unhealthy..

better have fast acting stuff like suspension so ur cycles are 10 times shorter and more effective. and safer..

thats why my favorite stack is

Suspension / Tren / Dbol(or anadrol)
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Unhealthy? Why? More unhealthy than tren???
 
Doing sust now and I do love test ... but I don't think I'm going to do sust anymore. Why you ask? Well unless you inject at least EOD you aren't making the most of it, and with the uneven blood levels of the ever so common 2x a week injections you will get more side effects than you would with shooting ED or EOD. I've been breaking out like no other while on the sust doing 2x a week as recomended by most. Growing new hair etc, this isn't usual for me. I will break out some, but not like this..

So for me it will be Test E if I want long acting, and prop ED if I want short acting(probably will do this), no need to go inbetween imo. Sust has done me right in the gains department, but with the choices out there I'll stick with prop or test e, besides they also usually cost slightly less than sust... and test is test, its just how it is released that is the difference.

As far as wanting to throw an oral in there... since this is your first cycle 500 mg of test per week should be plenty, but if you want to throw an oral in there, dbol all the way.
 
cswole said:
Doing sust now and I do love test ... but I don't think I'm going to do sust anymore. Why you ask? Well unless you inject at least EOD you aren't making the most of it, and with the uneven blood levels of the ever so common 2x a week injections you will get more side effects than you would with shooting ED or EOD. I've been breaking out like no other while on the sust doing 2x a week as recomended by most. Growing new hair etc, this isn't usual for me. I will break out some, but not like this..

So for me it will be Test E if I want long acting, and prop ED if I want short acting(probably will do this), no need to go inbetween imo. Sust has done me right in the gains department, but with the choices out there I'll stick with prop or test e, besides they also usually cost slightly less than sust... and test is test, its just how it is released that is the difference.

As far as wanting to throw an oral in there... since this is your first cycle 500 mg of test per week should be plenty, but if you want to throw an oral in there, dbol all the way.
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nailed it, ive been echoing this this for sometime....sust needs EOD at least its best just to pick a single ester and go from there, also i believe its cheaper as well....prop would be best as if something happens its out of the system fast enough to help........did anyone else notice this thread was started in 03 lol
 
boops said:
nailed it, ive been echoing this this for sometime....sust needs EOD at least its best just to pick a single ester and go from there, also i believe its cheaper as well....prop would be best as if something happens its out of the system fast enough to help........did anyone else notice this thread was started in 03 lol
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Hah didn't even notice the date... damn that asian lover for ressurecting a 2 year old thread!
 
don't know how that happened. i could have swore i saw it on one of the first pages. i was drinking last night so anything is possible.
 
superbigzane said:
i dont know why peole enjoy running long acting esters.. its just a waste of time and unhealthy..

better have fast acting stuff like suspension so ur cycles are 10 times shorter and more effective. and safer..

thats why my favorite stack is

Suspension / Tren / Dbol(or anadrol)
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Hate to burst your bubble, but if safe cycles are your thing, then Anadrol and Tren shouldn't be included! How the hell are those two drugs more "safe" than Test Enth?? :rolleyes:
 
Id take Enthanate over Sust for a regular cycle. Less poking less bulshit...more stable levels...less poking....and better sex drive for "my freind"
 
Sust is my test of choice, running it at 1500mg e/w at the moment as it happens, shot eod, it really does the job for me!
 
Sust has been good to me, but I'm sticking with enanthate or test prop from now on. No need for all that multi-esther bullshit, mg for mg I think sust is far less effective. If you shoot 500 mgs a week, roughly 120 of it are wasted in the prop and phenylprop esthers because they're a) not shot often enough to be effective and b) not big enough doses to be effective. 30 mgs of prop ain't shit, even if its shot e.d. I think 500 mgs of enanthate has more kick to it than 750 mgs of sust. Just my opinion, sust may work well for others.
 
Sust has done well for me in the past, but starting to like Test E much better. This is my frist cycle with Test E as the base, and liking it alot so far.
 
danymal04 said:
how long is sust detectable?[/QUOT

Most things I've read say 3 months. Less for faster acting T, suspension and orals clear system in weeks not months.

Sportsman watch out for vets. EQ 5-6 months, Deca 12-14 months. Deca's caught out more than a few rugby players usng steroids for the first time.
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I am just starting to take sustonen and was gonna go 500 per week and work out...right now i am 250 lbs and dont care about the weight but i want to get ripped and look a lot better than i do now.. and other advise for a first timer? i will be working out as much as i can per week as well...
thanks for your help
 
BIGJuice said:
About 1.5 months ago I did a 5 week cycle of only dianabol with nolvadex and post cycle clomid. I saw good size gains and have held about 10 pounds. However, I now want to get larger and more cut with a safe injectable. What are some of the long term/short term effects of Test Enthanate and Sustanon...Hair loss? Liver toxicity? etc. Can I drink while on them, as I did not on dianabol? What counter measures are absolutely necessary besides nolva and clomid, if anything? I am 19, 5'9" and 185 lbs and I would like to get up to 200 or 205 lbs maybe a little more. If this is my only injectable cycle, will it be safe to say that there will be no bad permanaent effects, most likely? My proposed cycle if I do Sust is:

500 mg. a week Sust
Nolvadex
Post cycle Clomid

So Sust or Test? I just want an easy beginner cycle taht will build me a base. If I decide oral, how do people feel about andriol. Thanks
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You're 19 knock it off, you'll hurt yourself. Couple more years dude, you can wait.
 
I prefer to inject weekly as opposed to every other day.

Also if you are taking a lot of test, like one gram Test E per week
it is much easier for me,

One or two injections of test a week.
 
The SAFEST drugs I would say are EQ, Primo, Anavar, not the ones you have listed. If I was going to pick one from your list, Sus has max gains least side effects based on my personal results.
 
BIGJuice said:
About 1.5 months ago I did a 5 week cycle of only dianabol with nolvadex and post cycle clomid. I saw good size gains and have held about 10 pounds. However, I now want to get larger and more cut with a safe injectable. What are some of the long term/short term effects of Test Enthanate and Sustanon...Hair loss? Liver toxicity? etc. Can I drink while on them, as I did not on dianabol? What counter measures are absolutely necessary besides nolva and clomid, if anything? I am 19, 5'9" and 185 lbs and I would like to get up to 200 or 205 lbs maybe a little more. If this is my only injectable cycle, will it be safe to say that there will be no bad permanaent effects, most likely? My proposed cycle if I do Sust is:

500 mg. a week Sust
Nolvadex
Post cycle Clomid

So Sust or Test? I just want an easy beginner cycle taht will build me a base. If I decide oral, how do people feel about andriol. Thanks
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alright bro. you definately need to read some more about aas. there are a ton of informative sites including elite fitness.
if you are not going to be deterred, i'd choose test e. sust has test e, test c, test prop, and test undecoate. prop and undec. are very short esters while test e and test cyp are long esters, meaning that your body will be dealing with four different substances at four different levels all at once. it'll give you gains but so will test e, and it's only two shots/wk max, some only take one.
 
bighippie11 said:
alright bro. you definately need to read some more about aas. there are a ton of informative sites including elite fitness.
if you are not going to be deterred, i'd choose test e. sust has test e, test c, test prop, and test undecoate. prop and undec. are very short esters while test e and test cyp are long esters, meaning that your body will be dealing with four different substances at four different levels all at once. it'll give you gains but so will test e, and it's only two shots/wk max, some only take one.
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He's 5'9" and only 19 !!! Shit ! .......
 
YOU WANT AN HONEST ANSWER ON A SAFE CYCLE KID??? WELL THERE IS NOT ONE!! YOU ARE ONLY 19 AND STARTING TO DO STEROIDS NOW THERE IS A 75% chance you will close your growth plates and not let you make any more gains naturually!! this is no bullshit!! If you ask anyone who relly knows what they are talking about they will tell you the same thing!! you should not strt using dteroids until about 22-23 years of age!! but i know you are not going to listen to me so if you want safe cycle do 25mg of d-bol ed for 4 weeks and 500mg of test e or sust for 10 weeks . then stay off them for couple of years
 
I've used Sust, Test E and Test C... and both E and C are much more effective than Sust. People say it's big time because it has 4 test's in it, but they're at low dosages and don't exactly mix perfectly. I like Test C, lower water retention and a noticable kick a lot earlier
 
Actually this person is no longer 19, more like 22 now. This thread was started over 3 years ago.

LET IT DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Agreed. Drinking on your cycle is not only unhealthy, it will inhibit your gains.

If I have to pick a test I like prop. Primarily because I generally run tren with test, and already do daily injections, so I mix my prop and tren in the same syringe.
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The only difference between Prop and Enanthate is the saturation time. Prop works faster but is required to be injected more often so you take the good with the bad, I myself dont mind waiting for the results of Enanthate. Also the faster acting Tests seem to make the sides worse in the begining. IMO
 
I`ve used both but sus was first cycle in which I exploded! So basically can`t tell. Test e didn`t produce results of my first cycle but that's par for the course I think as first is the best n`est pas?
 
I've been using enanthate for many years and will be trying sustanon soon for the first time. Will be interesting to see if I notice any difference.
 
I like these old threads to see how new information and time have changed opinions, and where it has remained constant.

Resurrect these old threads! I bet there's some interesting stuff out there worth revisiting.
 
sweatandscience said:
I like these old threads to see how new information and time have changed opinions, and where it has remained constant.

Resurrect these old threads! I bet there's some interesting stuff out there worth revisiting.
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Any chance of the original poster letting us know how he got on. Sort of like a home improvements program where they go back a year later!!
 
Nothing is safe... Define exactly what kind of results you want to get and then research what kind of drugs will provide those results. Tren is great at building muscle and making your muscles hard, most who have used it call it their all time favoriate. However, it will not promote a ton of weight gain. I don't have much experience with Anadrol, it never appealed to me. Dbol was bad enough, I looked like a big ballon. With a fast acting test you will hold less water but it has to be injected frequently. Your goal sounds like size so I would go with a longer ester like Enth or Cyp just to keep things simple. You are young yet.
 
To me test ethenate is the king for size strength and afforableness. Tren to me is second, the strength is incredible,quality muscle and fat burning affects. But the cost is high more frequent shots and the toxicity only allows 2 months of use; but what a two months they are. thats why to me its second in all aspects. I like short acting esters and long acting. My favorite stack for bulking is 40 mg of d-ball for 6 weeks plus 600 of test enenthate for 8 weeks. then i switch to tren winstrol and anavar for 2 months. 225 of tren 150 of winstrol amps and 20 to30 mg of anavar, good recipe to get ripped. I also agree with growth spurt on that guy talking just about short esters. Memembers out their be safe in your choices both in drugs also in life. peace my brothers. bigcats
 
BIGJuice said:
About 1.5 months ago I did a 5 week cycle of only dianabol with nolvadex and post cycle clomid. I saw good size gains and have held about 10 pounds. However, I now want to get larger and more cut with a safe injectable. What are some of the long term/short term effects of Test Enthanate and Sustanon...Hair loss? Liver toxicity? etc. Can I drink while on them, as I did not on dianabol? What counter measures are absolutely necessary besides Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and clomid, if anything? I am 19, 5'9" and 185 lbs and I would like to get up to 200 or 205 lbs maybe a little more. If this is my only injectable cycle, will it be safe to say that there will be no bad permanaent effects, most likely? My proposed cycle if I do Sustanon is:

500 mg. a week Sustanon
Nolvadex
Post cycle Clomid

So Sust or Test? I just want an easy beginner cycle taht will build me a base. If I decide oral, how do people feel about andriol. Thanks
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dude,at 19 years old you shouldn't even be fucking around with steroids,you have so much natural test and could fuck your system up introducing steroids to your body.the fact is your growth could be severely stunted and your system could be permanently damaged.lift naturally,eat a lot of protein and eat clean,train hard,get proper rest until you hit 22 then reconsider doing androgens that way you will have a good foundation to build on.

as far as favorites I would have to say test enanthate,and equipoise........I haven't gotten any sides to speak of even running the test enanthate at 750mgs a week and the equipoise at 600mgs.........but with the equipoise you have to run it for a long time 14 weeks to be precise to get the full benefits of it.
 
Young Bro, you would do yourself a big favor by listening to a vet like hyp...He's telling you the truth and not trying to scare you. Truth is if you max out on strong androgens at 19, a nuclear bomb won't be able to make you grow at 25. Take it slow and be safe.
 
It is mostly personal preference, maybe personal goals, nothing wrong with combining them if you want the immediate benefits of the Sust-250 and can not wait until Test E kicks in.
 
Is test suspension the same thing as test propionate i have been wondering this for weeks and still havent gotten an answer im totally sure on?
 
if im going for shear strength size and mass ill go with sust all day. if im going for good amount of size and strength with less bloat ill go with test e or c. if im running a cutter and am trying to keep bloat as little as possible i go with test prop
 
BIGJuice said:
About 1.5 months ago I did a 5 week cycle of only dianabol with nolvadex and post cycle clomid. I saw good size gains and have held about 10 pounds. However, I now want to get larger and more cut with a safe injectable. What are some of the long term/short term effects of Test Enthanate and Sustanon...Hair loss? Liver toxicity? etc. Can I drink while on them, as I did not on dianabol? What counter measures are absolutely necessary besides Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and clomid, if anything? I am 19, 5'9" and 185 lbs and I would like to get up to 200 or 205 lbs maybe a little more. If this is my only injectable cycle, will it be safe to say that there will be no bad permanaent effects, most likely? My proposed cycle if I do Sustanon is:

500 mg. a week Sust
Nolvadex
Post cycle Clomid

So Sust or Test? I just want an easy beginner cycle taht will build me a base. If I decide oral, how do people feel about andriol. Thanks
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My early days were SUSTANON only and I made great gains so I'm always fond of SUST. TEST E and CYP are VERY good as well.
 
TheSnowOwnsYou said:
I've used Sustanon, testosterone enanthate and testosterone cypionate... and both E and C are much more effective than Sust. People say it's big time because it has 4 test's in it, but they're at low dosages and don't exactly mix perfectly. I like Test C, lower water retention and a noticable kick a lot earlier
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Off the subject but why so many people like enanthate over cypiotate? Is it just that most enanthates i see are 250mg and cyps are lower? And is the lower water retention and earlier kick true or what? Sorry, but ive always heard they were about the same.
 
Found this article:

Sustanon: The "king" of testosterone blends.
The four different testosterone esters in this product certainly look appealing to the consumer, there is no denying that. But for the athlete I think it is all just a matter of marketing (Hell, why buy one ester when you can get four?). In clinical situations I can see some strong uses for it. If you were undergoing testosterone replacement therapy for example, you would probably find Sustanon a much more comfortable option than testosterone enanthate. You would need to visit the doctor less frequently for an injection, and blood levels should be more steadily maintained between treatments. But for the bodybuilder who is injecting 4 ampules of Sustanon per week, there is no advantage over other testosterone products. In fact, the high price tag for Sustanon usually makes it a very poor buy in the face of cheaper testosterone enanthate/cypionate. Bodybuilders should probably stop looking at the four ester issue, and stick with totals (Sustanon is just a 250mg testosterone ampule). Were enanthate to be available for say $10 per amp of 250mg, and Sustanon priced nearly double that, buying the Sustanon would be like throwing money away. If you could get nearly double the milligram amount for the same price with enanthate, this is the better product to go with hands down. Leave the high priced stuff for the guys who don't know any better.
 
This thread is old as hell. It's also funny to see the amount of the inaccurate information if you read some of the old posts in here. I like longer ester test because I get tired of poking everyday. I have never tried enanthate but will on my next cycle (someday).
 
The OP is now about 24-25 and he hasn't posted again in this thread. He last posted in Oct 2003. I wonder how he went.
 
yeah brah man my bro, don't use sustanon it's not good testosterone, it's bad. In fact you can't even compare it to enanthate or propionate because sustanon is nandrolone based like deca so you may as well use deca if you want to use sustanon.

Enanthate is the King because it's real testosterone and doens't cause water retention or gyno and the gains you keep unlike the gains with sustanon which go as soon as you come off :confused:
 
sensational said:
The very fact this thread exists is an indictment of the steroid user subculture. Can we please pick up the slack?
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what do you mean bro?
 
Test=test=test=test

Figure out how much you like to use, how often you like to inject, and use the test that you want. Adding an alkyl group to testosterone does not change its physiological effect, only its release time into the blood stream.
 
sensational said:
Test=test=test=test

Figure out how much you like to use, how often you like to inject, and use the test that you want. Adding an alkyl group to testosterone does not change its physiological effect, only its release time into the blood stream.
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I find the only REAL difference is the injection frequency...i.e. choosing a short vs. long ester.
 
Cardinal Slin said:
yeah brah man my bro, don't use sustanon it's not good testosterone, it's bad. In fact you can't even compare it to enanthate or propionate because sustanon is nandrolone based like deca so you may as well use deca if you want to use sustanon.

Enanthate is the King because it's real testosterone and doens't cause water retention or gyno and the gains you keep unlike the gains with sustanon which go as soon as you come off :confused:
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Ok bro, I'll bite. Where did you read this gem of information? Last time I checked, Sus was a blend of TESTs not nandrolones.

Like Sensational said, Test=Test.
 
As a cruising/bridging/HRT injectable, which would most of you choose out of Sustanon or Enanthate? I can get the Sustanon 250 (1ml amps) for almost half the price of the enanthate (250mg 1ml amps) but both are readily available to me and affordable.
 
FunFun said:
As a cruising/bridging/HRT injectable, which would most of you choose out of Sustanon or Enanthate? I can get the Sustanon 250 (1ml amps) for almost half the price of the enanthate (250mg 1ml amps) but both are readily available to me and affordable.
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Pharmacodynamics have proven that enanthate delivers more steady blood levels, less peaks and valleys in blood concentration, thus should be less side effects.
 
sensational said:
Pharmacodynamics have proven that enanthate delivers more steady blood levels, less peaks and valleys in blood concentration, thus should be less side effects.
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I don't get side effects from Sustanon. I have not yet tried Enanthate. I am considering injecting twice a week whichever I choose, so maybe the difference will be significant if dosed that way.

For HRT, Australian doctors often prescribe Sustanon, whereas the US doctors prefer Enanthate.
 
Cardinal Slin said:
yeah brah man my bro, don't use sustanon it's not good testosterone, it's bad. In fact you can't even compare it to enanthate or propionate because sustanon is nandrolone based like deca so you may as well use deca if you want to use sustanon.

Enanthate is the King because it's real testosterone and doens't cause water retention or gyno and the gains you keep unlike the gains with sustanon which go as soon as you come off :confused:
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inaccurate
 
cswole said:
Doing sust now and I do love test ... but I don't think I'm going to do sust anymore. Why you ask? Well unless you inject at least EOD you aren't making the most of it, and with the uneven blood levels of the ever so common 2x a week injections you will get more side effects than you would with shooting ED or EOD.

im realy wondering what you guyz think about runnin 150mgs eod of the sust for max benifit? only thing is according to a calender u'll only be getting 600mgs wk 1,-450 wk 2,-600 wk 3, and so on,,wouldnt this be correct? or am i just nuckin futz
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Cardinal Slin said:
yeah brah man my bro, don't use sustanon it's not good testosterone, it's bad. In fact you can't even compare it to enanthate or propionate because sustanon is nandrolone based like deca so you may as well use deca if you want to use sustanon.

Enanthate is the King because it's real testosterone and doens't cause water retention or gyno and the gains you keep unlike the gains with sustanon which go as soon as you come off :confused:
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who in the name of ..... told you sustanon is nandrolone based???

it's just a mix of 4 kinds of test: test prop and 3 rare esters
 
razrshrp said:
cswole said:
Doing sust now and I do love test ... but I don't think I'm going to do sust anymore. Why you ask? Well unless you inject at least EOD you aren't making the most of it, and with the uneven blood levels of the ever so common 2x a week injections you will get more side effects than you would with shooting ED or EOD.

im realy wondering what you guyz think about runnin 150mgs eod of the sust for max benifit? only thing is according to a calender u'll only be getting 600mgs wk 1,-450 wk 2,-600 wk 3, and so on,,wouldnt this be correct? or am i just nuckin futz
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Not sure where you got that info but look here and see if this helps www.roidcalc.com I made a chart with 125mgs EOD with a front load of 250mgs 1st and 2nd injection then 125mgs from there on out to week 12 blood levels stay stable. Tell me what you think.
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I say 19 is too young, ull mess up ur natural test, i would wait a year or so or 3, but sust is test, infact its a mixture of different tests, at 500mg/wk i wouldnt imagine seeing any sides...injectables would be much safer for your liver than an oral...drinking on a cycle will surly inhibit gains and would be counterproductive..., u want to be bigger, than dont drink, but seriously wait a bit and do some research...you dont want to have to cialis to get hard for the rest of your life
 
When comparing the three Test's; Prop has the least side effects because it contains the shortest ester (compared to Eth's long ester, and Sust's blend of some long and some short.)

Deca will have the least sides compared to the 3 Test esters (balding, body hair, acne, etc.) but will also lower the bodys natural testosterone production causing temporary sexual dysfunction (deca dick.) So in the end its a balance of long term side effects vs short term. If you can stand the deca dick then go with Durabolin.
 
Kingfeade2 said:
I say 19 is too young, ull mess up ur natural test, i would wait a year or so or 3, but sust is test, infact its a mixture of different tests, at 500mg/wk i wouldnt imagine seeing any sides...injectables would be much safer for your liver than an oral...drinking on a cycle will surly inhibit gains and would be counterproductive..., u want to be bigger, than dont drink, but seriously wait a bit and do some research...you dont want to have to cialis to get hard for the rest of your life
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LOL, dude should be about 25 now. Weird! Its like a time machine thread.
 
I chose Test Enth but I prefer Cyp over that. I don't like the mixture in different ester in Sustanon. I gotten about the same results using both though.
 
dmc777 said:
I chose Test Enth but I prefer Cyp over that. I don't like the mixture in different ester in Sustanon. I gotten about the same results using both though.
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Cyp and Enanthate are interchangable, but technically, Enanthate has a bit more Testosterone mg for mg than Cyp.
 
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