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If i take 250mg a week of sus, what kindof gains/sides can I expect. This would be my first cycle. Also, should I take some sort of antiestrogen during or immediately after? thanks!!!
 
nolvadex on hand would be a good idea incase you get gyno symptoms,clomid afterwards is needed,as for the dose thats a low dose cycle and you could even get away with 500mg if you want since 250mg isnt much above what you naturally produce anyway,as for sides,they vary form person to person,all you can do is be prepared for things like gyno
 
Id deff wait to get double of that. Im on week 8 of 500mg of sust alone rite now and using it for cutting. Im eating 1600 calores under mainT and havent lost much muslce mass.

Id start using 500 and order some more and run it for 10 - 12wks
 
TheOak01 said:
nolvadex on hand would be a good idea incase you get gyno symptoms,clomid afterwards is needed,as for the dose thats a low dose cycle and you could even get away with 500mg if you want since 250mg isnt much above what you naturally produce anyway,as for sides,they vary form person to person,all you can do is be prepared for things like gyno
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250mg of sust is WAY more than you would produce naturally. Still, I think 375mg/week is a good first cycle.
 
The_first_athlete said:
Id deff wait to get double of that. Im on week 8 of 500mg of sust alone rite now and using it for cutting. Im eating 1600 calores under mainT and havent lost much muslce mass.

Id start using 500 and order some more and run it for 10 - 12wks
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using it for cutting? isn't the point of doing sus gaining mass? i am on week three of sus using 500mg with the intention of putting ON weight. so far i have put on 3 lbs but i understand gains on sus kick in week 5 or so. i hope so anyhow because that my intention!

also, what do you mean you are eating 1600 calories under mainT? you are only eating 1600 calories a day? have you put on any lbs on your sus cycle?
 
jubei said:
250mg of sust is WAY more than you would produce naturally. Still, I think 375mg/week is a good first cycle.
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more, but not "way" more. though guess that would depend on definition of "way". and there is the quality issue also (see below)

lets say for "lack of effort sake :)" that with sust you get about an average of 70% test and 30% ester (thats not right on, its the high end, likely 60-70%, but within 5-10%)

about 165mg test per week. average male produces about 7mg per day so 49mg per week. though you wont see that 165mg per week release until week 3-4 (long acting esters). also because its not pulsatile, like normal test production, it very likely takes more to achieve better results. the spikes of test that your body produces are basically "more effective".



note even though its release pattern is more even.. you probably should still hit it every 4-5 days instead of 1/wk

enough ramble for the eve....
 
250 would be fine. you can use it for cutting or bulking, teh drama with test is always the water retention. imo there is a huge misconception about using xyz aas for cutting and abc aas for bulking. ultimately what it comes down to is diet and training.

of course the otehr thing is that some drugs are worse to come off, so if yorue trying to get into condition for summer or whatever, you dont use these as much. just depends waht you want to do

cheers
 
can anyone expound on the e4d theory...mon and fri..
or what you think is best???? to use sust, for blood levels&esters...and appropriate amounts of pct
for such a cycle...clomid..nolvadex.. or just nolva...A smaller cycle shouldn't require as much pct right??? just asking .....you guys are the experienced folk. thanks
 
3.5 times normal levels is not way? Damn thats fucked.
 
glad someone had the terminology to explain that,I had the knowledge just couldnt explain properly,thanks macro
 
Macro, easy with the scary eyes, now i'm afraid to respond. LOL.

My first cycle was 250mg of sust/week for 8 weeks and I kept about 12 lbs. of muscle and alot of strength from it.
 
my 1st was 6weeks and the results about the same..do you think the body would respond to that again or should 375..or..500 be the dose. I say 375 because it's
mentioned above..i'd like to gain about 15-20 lbs..body responded well the 1st time
thoughts..?
 
I'd go with 250mg e4d so just under 500mg/week.
 
I used no pct for that 1st cycle....what would you recommend..
I've read numurous avantages and disadvantages...to all nolva,arimidex.clomid
for 8-10 week cycle ...what would you choose
 
For a 10 week sust cycle I would use hcg/clomid or hcg nolvadex. Throw in some avena sativa for good measure if you like.
 
marjan said:
so will the sustanon only cycle with 500 mg a week give good resultats or is taking sust only wasting money
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No its not a waste of money. I am just finishing a 10wk sust only cycle and I am up a solid 12lbs. I expect to go up a few more lbs when finished.

Wk1. 500mg
Wk2. 500mg
Wk3-Wk10 250mg

PCT will be Nolva, Clomid, Avena Sativa, Maca, Tribulus Terrestris and Horny Goat weed.

My last cycle was Sust and Dbol. I gained 15lbs and kept 5lbs and I expect the same this time. I know this is a low number to alot here, but I am a true ectomorph. But at least the 5lbs is real!!! If I do 2 cycles at a solid 10lb gain a year I will happy!!!
 
you will be from weeks 3-10 on just 250 mg? I started now with sust only cycle I was in doubt will I add some anadrol or dianabol but i think I will stay on sust only 8 weeks of 500mg I was hoping for about 20 pounds
 
marjan said:
you will be from weeks 3-10 on just 250 mg? I started now with sust only cycle I was in doubt will I add some anadrol or dianabol but i think I will stay on sust only 8 weeks of 500mg I was hoping for about 20 pounds
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20lbs is possible. Just remember when you hit the gym to take full advantage of the cycle by working your ass off. And don't forget to eat eat eat!!!!

My next sust cycle will be an 8wk'r as well @500mg wk1-wk4 and @250mg wk5-wk8.
 
can you tell what would be the roof for pounds on sust only for sombody, example do you now anybody that gained 30 or 40 pounds on sust only
 
I did 250 alone my first cycle. Gained 18 pounds. The key is to eat a lot. Use ginger for helping with large amounts of protein. And read up on controlling the acne. That cycle f*cked my shoulders and back up.
 
i wouldnt bother with 250mg per week.
500mg sounds right though.
 
250mg a week how long was you cycle 8 or 12 weeks,18 pounds with 250mg a week sounds good how was your strenght
 
what about doing 1000mg of sus on the first of the month,and then thats it
let the esters release as thier designed to
 
never did Sustanon...only cipionate...what's the difference and what would be an effective dosage? How often? Does it stack well with Tren?
 
GOHVYORGOHME, 250 of sustanon a week is too low of a dose. 250 is just a little more over what the body produces naturally. People get 15-20lb gains from 500wk of sus by itself without any anti-estrogen and never got gyno.
Shoot 1cc on monday and 1cc on thursday............
 
I'm thinking of trying Sus 250mg for 8 weeks as well for my first cycle. Right now I am 35, 5'10" weigh 185lbs. Not sure what my bf % is....but I think I am somwhere around 15%. I have been lifting for 13 years...since '93.

My question is what should my caloric intake be? How much protein would you recommend? I want to get as much out of this cycle as I can.

Thanks for anyone's help....
 
I've done two sus cycles by themselves one at 250 a week and I got gains but nothing dramatic, My next one was SuS 500 mg a week and I blew up off this...
 
STOP NECROING POSTS. Using the search is a good thing but come on.. post a new thread when the shit is this old.
 
isnt 500mgs ALOT, how many CC's is that ? i have 25 gauge 5 CC syringes, how would that be compared to 5 CC syringes.
 
jubei said:
250mg of sust is WAY more than you would produce naturally. Still, I think 375mg/week is a good first cycle.
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This is my first cycle, I was going to do a sus only cycle of 375mg/week for 8 weeks I also have some primobolan depot 1200/mg worth. What do you think about me stacking with sus and how should I go about it any help would be great :)
 
im currently on sus 375mg e5d. and dbol 35mg a day. i have already put on 14lbs in under 3 weeks. the sus hasn't even kicked in yet that was just dbol so far. im going to be a monster! LOL! but yeah 500mg is good i would say! i went with a little extra cuz i want dramatic results. not regrets!
 
jumpshot said:
STOP NECROING POSTS. Using the search is a good thing but come on.. post a new thread when the shit is this old.
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Yeahhh I agreee...It'd be nice if moderators stepped in because this stuff can seriously ruin a forum if people start doing it constantly.
 
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