Sustainable mass advice.

[knuckles2944]

I've done two simple cycles before: one test cyp and one deca. I'm a soldier and not so much a body builder but I am fit and strong and experienced in the gym. I'm 6feet tall and about 175 lbs right now(ouch), last time I checked I was around 10%bf. The thing is my optimum weight is around 195-210. I do a lot of running so cardio does work against me, but its' necessary. My situation is that overseas and on ops I lose weight rather quickly due to long days, little sleep and poor food and then while on a break I work out hard and slowly build back up. I'm about to start a deca/test cyp stack (I got the ttokyo 300 mg and 250mg test cyp, each once a week for 10weeks). I have experienced no significant side effects with these two alone, with no clomid etc... But how about the stack? These are fairly low dosages but I've gotten mixed messages about clomid etc... Is anything really necessary here? And should I maybe go up a bit with the test? Like I said I'm more lean and toned now and I just want a sustainable small amount of bulk and really don't care to do a lot of cycles in the future. But I'd sure like to stay around 200lbs. Just lookin' for advice.

Thanks bros

 

[PHit41]

I would bump the test to 500mg/wk and keep the deca at 300mg/wk. Rule of thumb is that the test should be higher than the deca because it will shut you down.

That would be a great cycle if you run it for 10-12 weeks.

Then you would definitly need some PCT. I would go with a nolva/clomid combo. Don't leave out the PCT when you use deca and test.

good luck

PHit

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I would not touch clomid for anything......DO HCG and Nolva combo

Clomid make syou feel like shit and has a ton of sides, from acne..to as in my case shrinking the foreskin on my penis to where i had to get it repaired. NOT FUN

 

[PolfaJelfa]

This is 100% true bro,,, but i can not in good faith blame the foreskin problem on the Clomid.....i was also taking slin back then. My doc said it was probibaly due to extreme hormone change caused by clomid. Although it could of been slin. Anyways as you might expect i do not go near any one of these 2 any more.

 

[knuckles2944]

I appreciate the info and although many suggest having higher test than deca, I think I'll just stick w/250 of cyp and 300 deca. Like I said I experienced no sides w/300/wk of deca before. Can I skip the nova? realistically? with this doseage?
Deca and cyp are both long acting and because I'm not out to get too huge I can handle some losses pc. I'm wary of too many things, thats all. I'll take your advice because I have never done a stacking cycle before. My goals are modest rebuilding right now.

This is one hell of a forum and I salute you.
Cheers!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I personallt dont take any anti es when on cycle anymore... i would do th eHCG and nolva as PCt...What i meanty by hcg and nolv ais for PCT( POST CYCEL THERAPY).....i realy dooubt you need nolva as an anti e at your dosages