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Sust-dianabol, first cycle.help

serkadelic

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OK here i go,
this is my first cycle and heres how it goes:
wk1-10 sust . 500mg / week
wk1-4 dianabol .PD


PCT
nolvadex for 4 weeks

-now id like to no should i be running any anti estrogen drugs during the cycle?
-should i be running anything other than NOLVADEX for my PCT and is that a good length to run it at?
any suggestions and critisicm are welcome


stats: 6ft0
180lbs
STRONG BUILD, been training for 4 years
 
Have an anti-e on hand and start use if you see sides you cannot handle. Increase sust by 2 weeks. Cycle looks good. What is your routine and diet?
 
OK here i go,
this is my first cycle and heres how it goes:
wk1-10 sust . 500mg / week
wk1-4 dianabol .PD


PCT
nolvadex for 4 weeks

-now id like to no should i be running any anti estrogen drugs during the cycle?
-should i be running anything other than NOLVADEX for my PCT and is that a good length to run it at?
any suggestions and critisicm are welcome


stats: 6ft0
180lbs
STRONG BUILD, been training for 4 years

I would add in hcg 250ius 2x week weeks 3-12.
Then dbol at 40mg/day.

Have letro on hand.

Pct i would do nolva 20mg and clomid 25mg for 4 weeks.

Good first cycle
 
I would add in hcg 250ius 2x week weeks 3-12.
Then dbol at 40mg/day.

Have letro on hand.

Pct i would do nolva 20mg and clomid 25mg for 4 weeks.

Good first cycle


40mg of dbol is too much for a first run, most have success starting with 20-25. Letro is probably too strong unless severely sore nipples appear, Arimidex or nolvadex is suitable I would think for 500mg or less of test. If you want to take most advantage of explosive mass gain on a first cycle, add some deca @ 400mg/week for 10 weeks, but be sure to have dostinex on hand for progestagenic/prolactin related gyno and/or sexual side effects. Good luck
 
40mg of dbol is too much for a first run, most have success starting with 20-25. Letro is probably too strong unless severely sore nipples appear, Arimidex or nolvadex is suitable I would think for 500mg or less of test. If you want to take most advantage of explosive mass gain on a first cycle, add some deca @ 400mg/week for 10 weeks, but be sure to have dostinex on hand for progestagenic/prolactin related gyno and/or sexual side effects. Good luck

500mg test and 400mg deca? first cycle? thats almost 1g of anabolics. So i think a little dbol is not bad. I would still go test dbol first cycle. I wouldnt use nolva for water retention maybe adex. But still think letro is better. you dont even have to use alot.
 
40mg of dbol is too much for a first run, most have success starting with 20-25. Letro is probably too strong unless severely sore nipples appear, Arimidex or nolvadex is suitable I would think for 500mg or less of test. If you want to take most advantage of explosive mass gain on a first cycle, add some deca @ 400mg/week for 10 weeks, but be sure to have dostinex on hand for progestagenic/prolactin related gyno and/or sexual side effects. Good luck

I agree, My first cycle was Sust 250, 1ml a week, and Deca- 200, 1ml a week, and I gained over twenty pounds, I didn't even use dbol :S Still haven't. Friends of mine got great gains on first cycle with 10-20mg in first weeks up to 40 in third and back down. maybe ending with 20 mg a day.

Don't overdue Dbol and you should have to take any hardcore est controllers. My personal favorites are Nolva/clomid and I also think the hcg is a great idea on the 10-13 weeks. I also think ten weeks is more than okay for a first cycle.

Good luck work hard.
 
I just finished my kickstart with dbol at 50mg/ed for weeks 1-4 of my test/deca cycle and it bloated the fuck outta me lol. It Put 18lbs in 4 weeks on me though. I already dropped 3 of it in 4 days jsut from water weight. I would go with 30mg/ed
 
im Week 2 in of my Sust/EQ/Dbol cycle

im running 500mg sust / 400mg EQ / 40mg dbol a day.. so far so good. feeling great, no noticeable sides as of yet besides slight high BP...
might bump the sust and EQ by week 4... anywayys.. so far so good.. great strength gains.. im running forma everyday..staying pretty cut.. good luck bro!
 
Sust is a good place to start on a first cycle but i would go 30mg dbol for 4weeks and get some liv52 and milkthisle because dbol is a liver killer and maybe add some deca by week 4 and nolva should be fine unless you feel bad sides i.e sore nibbles etc
 
Why not just run test only? 500mg a week. If your training and diet is good you'll make great gains. Plus if you have any sides you will know exactly what is causing it with only using one compound. You can start adding in different things next time around if all goes well. Just my opinion anyway :)
 
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