Sust. and Deca I need some advice from the vets.

[BBig phenom]

Ok, I have done both of these in cycles by themselves and got good results... Sust using 500mg/ week and the Deca dont remember cuz it was a while ago..

Now going to do them both for 10weeks.....I am getting mixed feeling on using Deca, some say it is the best, but others saying it sucks....

So I am 6'3" 225lbs....about 11%bf.....

I was going to run the sust. weeks 1-10 at 500mg

and the deca was not sure on how much to run.

any input please to help me out.

 

[Super Test 2004]

I would run anywhere from 300mg to 400 mg of deca along with the 500mg sust a week.
That is actually my next cycle.

 

[BBig phenom]

have you ever done this cycle before...if so how where your gains? and how long are you running it?

 

[Super Test 2004]

Never done this together, will be the first time.
Good luck.

 

[BBig phenom]

I cannot wait,,,,I wish someone who has done this cycle would give us some input...

 

[majutsu]

who hasn't done test and deca? That's like asking who's had pb&j. . . It's a classic mass stack. As far as deca critics, talking about anabolics is like talking about cars: one guy drives the weird french car and thinks no other vehicle should exist, and another says all cars are just gasoline engines and wheels. They are both right and both wrong. It's like having a headache and agonizing over whether to take tylenol or advil. Both sides have their zealots because of unique personal experiences, but if I had a headache, I'd fuckin' take something quick. . . As Dan D said (more or less) "If you can't grow off dbol and deca, you have no right being in a gym . . . "

At your stats, try 500sust ew + 400deca ew x 10 wks, spend more time planning your PCT, as most deca whiners are poor PCT planners IMO and/or just don't understand how esters affect half-life. . . The same folks love NPP ... the same drug without the requirement of understanding esters . . .

 

[BBig phenom]

good anology, what is the most you have gained on this cycle?

 

[majutsu]

25lbs on my second, much less now, but I think if it's your 2nd cycle with your stats, you could gain 20 lbs easy (I say this because you are 5 inches taller but the same weight, and I'm a rail, so you must be a super-ectomorph, and deca is a great stack for this.) In fact, add like 20ed of dbol to clinch the "classic stack" and I'm sure you'll be satisfied, and all fairly reasonable, sane dosages across the board.

 

[BBig phenom]

thanks bro..

 

[cladshirt2]

Re

I have done several test only and test/deca cycles. I had great gains off 500test/400deca however I did get deca dick bad. Yes even with the test. Test alone I keep a hard one but throw in the deca and it's done. Everyone reacts a little different. Just keep that in mind if your boy quits on you.