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this info is credited to Strasser:


he had ** winny tested and here are the results:

TAB 1, BOTTLE 1, 46.55mg; TAB 2, BOTTLE 1, 46.65mg, TAB 3, BOTTLE 1, 46.5mg; TAB 4, BOTTLE 1, 45.40mg; TAB 5, BOTLLE 1, 44.8mg.

now maybe all you ** bashers will back off. and if ya want to see the full thread its over at the Gade, i just pasted the part that counts.

mike
 
I'm not a basher at all but is this guy providing hard copy. People arn't going to believe it unless he supplies copies of the lab report.
 
I just think it's careless to sell a product labeled 'oral masteron' when it's really methyl DHT.
 
I say this once more, i DONT use shit that is made in some muthas garage, i prefer to use 100% sterile human grade products that have been scrutinised and tested over and over before they are realeased onto the market.:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
to find out about the hard copies, you would have to get in touch with Brock Strasser via email to see whats up with that. i trust Brock's rep on this, and also i know why the winny was tested because of the article, it killed two birds with one stone, that is with the new stone comin out and all. and again the full thread is at renegadebodybuilding.com

mike
 
If IP pasted a picture of his lab - that would stop the bashing...

But a one bedroom flat in china with a tin bath as the process mixing device is what I am imagining...
 
People can post lab test results all day long but until a hard copy is scanned and posted the results arent worth the toilet paper I wipe my ass with :D

Btw are they the 50mg winny tabs that where tested? All of which come out under 50 but none over 50? Was that done to give some more credibility?

Im not saying they were not tested or anything but without a hard copy they mean nothing to me.

As Andy said Oral Masteron? SuperClen? Suspension Tablets? :confused:
 
Show me some legit detailed lab reports........hmmm didn't think so :p My question is why would you trust this shit when with a little dedication and extra $$ you can have something you know you can count on. I guess I just don't understand although I get the feeling it is a $$ thing. Anyways, you get what you pay for IMO
 
A friend of mine is getting the chines tren tested, should have the labtest in the next two weeks, will scan and post it....

Koen
 
And the fools keep on being fooled

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lol Why do people keep trying to prove this without hardcopies, and even if you had them I still have no idea why when it comes to something so important as your body and health would you use this stuff? To save a few bucks? Its your bodies, do as you please.
 
I was under the impression that Fu Man Chu has been around for several years. Why has he been so successful if his shit is bunk, dirty, underdosed, or whatever the haters are calling it?? Is it just impressionable newbies buying it because he's so cheap? I think not.
This is the ONLY board, that I've seen, that bashes him so much.....I wonder what the motives are behind that...hmmm
 
You can bash him all you want... I use only IP gear now, and i have had bad ass results... If IP has enough $$$ to order $50K worth of powder for a few kilos of roids, then i doubt he is in a one room flat with a tin bathtub... From what i understand, he has a state of the art private lab, such as ttokkyos
 
Everytime I hear people saying Chinese stuff is made in an underground lab I just cant help myself :D :D :D :D yu people are dumb or what ? It isnt just one guy, or a basement lab ..........


By the way WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR HARD COPY ?????
 
silly boy, dicks are for chicks

IP is garbage, alway has been and always will be
for those of you who have been around for a long time you know what i mean

hardcopies...no of course not
guess what i make my own shit i can give you all teh lab results you want, i can make shit up just as easy as the next dumb ass

so dont waste our time unless you have PROOF
not shit on a fucking stick
 
Conan69:

Do you have a hard copy lab test that prove the contrary ? I prefer the other version because I took the products and they were working.

Regards.
 
All i have from him (and all i will get) is 40mg anavar. Heard no bad stories from this in particular (not like the A 50). I only have about 35 tabs (good enough for a 5 week 40mg/day post cycle "bridge"), ill see how it goes.
 
conan69 said:
silly boy, dicks are for chicks

IP is garbage, alway has been and always will be
for those of you who have been around for a long time you know what i mean

hardcopies...no of course not
guess what i make my own shit i can give you all teh lab results you want, i can make shit up just as easy as the next dumb ass

so dont waste our time unless you have PROOF
not shit on a fucking stick
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Well if it's "garbage" then the Chinaman has the biggest scam going on of all time. Damn, he's a brilliant mofo for pulling this off. Maybe it's a placebo effect that has bros growing off his "garbage," eh? :p
I can't help but wonder why so many mods on this board continue to bash this guy for giving such great service and product over the years. Interesting.....
 
first off, ip stuff doesnt come in bottles but international pharmacueticals does.
and for the comments on ips stuff if you dont like itdont use it, ive been using his stuff exclusively besides primo and have had great results.the only thing i di not like was the sus which i got from a distrubuter. so who knows if he did something to it.
if his stuff was bunk people would not buy it even if it was cheap.i have no reason to defend the guy but i do like his products and hope he continues to make them
 
I just hope one day a real lab test will be performed on all his products.... so the debate about the quality could end up...........
 
Isn't someone on this board testing his Anavar, Winny, and Arimidex this week... i think the results were supposed to be out by this coming Friday. Maybe we'll all know the truth then and we can chill out about this.
 
So let me get this straight....All you IP haters will buy pre-made tren that's made in someone kitchen but will not buy IP gear because you think he makes it while playing with rubber duckies in his bathtub in a little flat in China?...and I love all the fucking experts who bash IP...which in case you haven't noticed is usually mods who are sources themselves or who have vested interests in other sources who don't provide IP...this whole IP debate is totally ridiculous....if you don't want to use it don't...but don't bash someone when they say they get results from it...chances are they did...I happen to be one who has....or maybe it wasn't the IP viagra that had my dick hard for 2 hours...actually maybe it wasn't the IP winny that had me striated and vascular....must have been the sust...we'll all know sust will do that to ya:rolleyes: I have a great idea...All the haters out there get it tested...show us the hardcopy it isn't real...what makes your claim of it's ineffectiveness any more valid?.....your mod status?....your post count?....you're witty replies?...Do you IP haters realize he isn't even Chinese?.....do you know where he gets his powders from?....do you have any idea just how real these powders are?.....I can't believe the ignorance you IP haters show in "IP sucks" posts....you know absolutely nothing about the man......so I have a request......next time you say IP sucks....show me your hardcopy......c'mon source....I mean mods....speak up
 
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There is no satisfying everyone!!! Let them keep spending the money on Zambons or Stanazolic. I will keep saving on the same shit.;)
 
The IP debate is pointless, some people enoy knowing their stuff is legit and clean, others enjoy taking a chance with his stuff. There's been mixed reviews, I'd say more good then bad, but no clear answer. All I know is that a friend of mine used to work at the cambells soup factory and spit chew spit in the canisters, so really theres no guarentee anythings safe and clean, no matter where u get it. :D
 
therealj said:
So let me get this straight....All you IP haters will buy pre-made tren that's made in someone kitchen but will not buy IP gear because you think he makes it while playing with rubber duckies in his bathtub in a little flat in China?...and I love all the fucking experts who bash IP...which in case you haven't noticed is usually mods who are sources themselves or who have vested interests in other sources who don't provide IP...this whole IP debate is totally ridiculous....if you don't want to use it don't...but don't bash someone when they say they get results from it...chances are they did...I happen to be one who has....or maybe it wasn't the IP viagra that had my dick hard for 2 hours...actually maybe it wasn't the IP winny that had me striated and vascular....must have been the sust...we'll all know sust will do that to ya:rolleyes: I have a great idea...All the haters out there get it tested...show us the hardcopy it isn't real...what makes your claim of it's ineffectiveness any more valid?.....your mod status?....your post count?....you're witty replies?...Do you IP haters realize he isn't even Chinese?.....do you know where he gets his powders from?....do you have any idea just how real these powders are?.....I can't believe the ignorance you IP haters show in "IP sucks" posts....you know absolutely nothing about the man......so I have a request......next time you say IP sucks....show me your hardcopy......c'mon source....I mean mods....speak up
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Pretty harsh generalizations there don't ya think? Do you have a vested intrest in IP? If I were a mod, I would be pretty pissed at this bullshit. If ip is so damn great, why do all of you dumbshit's worry about how to steralize it? he is a legit lab, right? So this shouldn't be a concern to so many. And since when do people try to prove that products are bunk? Get a hard copy that proves that his products aren't shit. They might work, that that doesn't mean that they are anywhere near the claimed potency. I would buy a vehicle that hasn't been safety tested and I sure as hell would inject gear that has no guarantee of being sterile.
 
"Pretty harsh generalizations there don't ya think? Do you have a vested intrest in IP? If I were a mod, I would be pretty pissed at this bullshit. "

I would be pissed too if I was a mod who was a source and IP's products conflicted with my business...you don't have a clue regarding IP so you really should keep your fucking mouth shut....do I have a vested interest in IP.....yes.....I invest my money in his winny and var and viagra?......what's your point?....have all three worked for me...yes...as for his injectables.....haven't used them and have no desire to....just like I have no desire to use ttokkyo test or many other companies that make products with a high alcohol content...IP offers a reward for tests showing his products fail to meet their claims.....with your lack of knowledge to this whole situation keeping your mouth shut would have been a much wiser decision....

"I would buy a vehicle that hasn't been safety tested and I sure as hell would inject gear that has no guarantee of being sterile."

you would?...or you wouldn't.....try proof reading next time there mental midget
 
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Mentioning this guy's handle is like yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.

You know there's a stampede coming.

So why do it!
bass
 
therealj said:
as for the hard copy.....I can provide my hard body:D
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AMEN!
Now what I've always wondered is if any of these bros (seems to always be mods) who continue to bash the man take paper products?????? If so, what's the fucking difference?? Aren't those made in a homebased lab??? I know the Paper Man is highly regarded on this board...maybe because he's not as big a threat to certain people's bunsiness? Or maybe it's kickbacks? Who the fuck knows....just a few questions I have that'll prob. never be answered.
 
therealj said:
So let me get this straight....All you IP haters will buy pre-made tren that's made in someone kitchen but will not buy IP gear because you think he makes it while playing with rubber duckies in his bathtub in a little flat in China?...and I love all the fucking experts who bash IP...which in case you haven't noticed is usually mods who are sources themselves or who have vested interests in other sources who don't provide IP...this whole IP debate is totally ridiculous....if you don't want to use it don't...but don't bash someone when they say they get results from it...chances are they did...I happen to be one who has....or maybe it wasn't the IP viagra that had my dick hard for 2 hours...actually maybe it wasn't the IP winny that had me striated and vascular....must have been the sust...we'll all know sust will do that to ya:rolleyes: I have a great idea...All the haters out there get it tested...show us the hardcopy it isn't real...what makes your claim of it's ineffectiveness any more valid?.....your mod status?....your post count?....you're witty replies?...Do you IP haters realize he isn't even Chinese?.....do you know where he gets his powders from?....do you have any idea just how real these powders are?.....I can't believe the ignorance you IP haters show in "IP sucks" posts....you know absolutely nothing about the man......so I have a request......next time you say IP sucks....show me your hardcopy......c'mon source....I mean mods....speak up
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I agree RealJ, Bashers here keep using the term "made in some chinese bathroom or basement",ect. I personally think IP is an arrogant fucking prick and an asshole as far as dealing with customer problems. However his orals (in particluar the 50mg winnie and viagra) cannot be beat price wise by anybody.
But people here want the comfort of " I use human gear only...blah...blah...blah..fucking blah" and have to mortgage out a cycle. The fact is any of the bashers need to get some of his gear and test it-then post the hardcopy or SHUT THE FUCK UP.
BTW any group of tabs is produced in a lot of 500,000 tabs. Kinda hard to do that in a basement huh?
 
therealj said:
So let me get this straight....All you IP haters will buy pre-made tren that's made in someone kitchen but will not buy IP gear because you think he makes it while playing with rubber duckies in his bathtub in a little flat in China?...and I love all the fucking experts who bash IP...which in case you haven't noticed is usually mods who are sources themselves or who have vested interests in other sources who don't provide IP...this whole IP debate is totally ridiculous....if you don't want to use it don't...but don't bash someone when they say they get results from it...chances are they did...I happen to be one who has....or maybe it wasn't the IP viagra that had my dick hard for 2 hours...actually maybe it wasn't the IP winny that had me striated and vascular....must have been the sust...we'll all know sust will do that to ya:rolleyes: I have a great idea...All the haters out there get it tested...show us the hardcopy it isn't real...what makes your claim of it's ineffectiveness any more valid?.....your mod status?....your post count?....you're witty replies?...Do you IP haters realize he isn't even Chinese?.....do you know where he gets his powders from?....do you have any idea just how real these powders are?.....I can't believe the ignorance you IP haters show in "IP sucks" posts....you know absolutely nothing about the man......so I have a request......next time you say IP sucks....show me your hardcopy......c'mon source....I mean mods....speak up
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You guys will never understand, this post isnt about whether IP products work or not (oral masteron? oral suspension?) no one comments on these though btw, but this post is stating tests were carried out. I give a shit if they work or not but get off your high horses when you keep reading tests have been done but yet these people always fail to post the hard copies. Why can no one comprehend that? I am 350lbs 4% bf but I wont show you a picture :rolleyes:

You enjoy using IP products, feel free to and no one is stopping you. But stop these bullshit its been tested posts. How much people getting paid to post this? :confused:

Is it so hard to scan and post the hard copies.
 
therealj said:
and I love all the fucking experts who bash IP...which in case you haven't noticed is usually mods who are sources themselves .
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Now the truth comes out!


All the haters out there get it tested...show us the hardcopy it isn't real...what makes your claim of it's ineffectiveness any more valid
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Great point. That would shut the mouth of a reasonable person! But....
 
I've used ** and Non** products. I've never mixed. When it was ** it was all **. And when it was non**, all the gear was non**. I've gotten comparable results from both. As far as taking a chance, we all take chances when we do AS, no matter the manufacturer. I'm not bashing ** or the ** haters. I'm just giving my opinion based on my results. If you really believe ** is making all this stuff in a kitchen or bathtub then you must believe in every consipiracy theory out there. Some of the products may not be as good as others but you get what you pay for,,,,,just like Brovel or any other Mexican gear. We could debate this forever, but unless someone has proof otherwise, I know that no placebo can give me the results that ** has. Again it may not be as good as some other gear, but if your short on cash and you've gotten results off of it before, why not? Ultimately there is no telling what is in any batch of any gear. All I know is I'm not eating any more Cambells soup as per flickenu. :D :D :D
 
And yes, why post bullshit about tests? No one with any brains will take the word of someone they know nothing about on a bulletin board on the internet. I can say I tested 50mg Winny and it tested at 59.5. In fact I did. yeah...yeah....and then i tested another one,,,,yeah.....and it was 56, no 57.4.....yeah.

So here's an idea, don't post any claims unless you have hard copy proof (which still could be fake). Let's just talk about results and how we got them and how we can get bigger, stronger, leaner.
 
Agree with the Realj...... Sp next someone wants to bash IP stuff, just bring on an hardcopy or something. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.......:mad:
 
The Iron Game said:
You guys will never understand, this post isnt about whether IP products work or not (oral masteron? oral suspension?) no one comments on these though btw, but this post is stating tests were carried out. I give a shit if they work or not but get off your high horses when you keep reading tests have been done but yet these people always fail to post the hard copies. Why can no one comprehend that? I am 350lbs 4% bf but I wont show you a picture :rolleyes:

You enjoy using IP products, feel free to and no one is stopping you. But stop these bullshit its been tested posts. How much people getting paid to post this? :confused:

Is it so hard to scan and post the hard copies.
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My thoughts exactly! BTW, Iron Game, when r u going to post those pics of yours... :D .
 
WTF is a jug anyway can soemone email me a pic of a jug.
Pllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaassssssssssssseeeeeee..
i even said please:D
 
In case you IP bashers/haters/lovers haven't noticed,
scanning a hard copy of a product test is AKIN to
committing SUICIDE. Each hard copy(legitimate) has
a REF# and name, place of occupation etc..
You'd have to be CRAZY to post somethin like that unless
you lived in Brazil or another steroid-legal land.
I'm sorry but ANONIMITY is what keeps us from being
busted.

And for all you bashers, NEXT TIME, DO THE F*CKING
TESTS YOURSELVES you cheap assholes.

Ok, now back to researching.

Godspeed
 
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY FONZ:

In case you IP bashers/haters/lovers haven't noticed,
scanning a hard copy of a product test is AKIN to
committing SUICIDE. Each hard copy(legitimate) has
a REF# and name, place of occupation etc..
You'd have to be CRAZY to post somethin like that unless
you lived in Brazil or another steroid-legal land.
I'm sorry but ANONIMITY is what keeps us from being
busted.

And for all you bashers, NEXT TIME, DO THE F*CKING
TESTS YOURSELVES you cheap assholes.

Ok, now back to researching.




WORD
 
needleboy said:
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY FONZ:

In case you IP bashers/haters/lovers haven't noticed,
scanning a hard copy of a product test is AKIN to
committing SUICIDE. Each hard copy(legitimate) has
a REF# and name, place of occupation etc..
You'd have to be CRAZY to post somethin like that unless
you lived in Brazil or another steroid-legal land.
I'm sorry but ANONIMITY is what keeps us from being
busted.

And for all you bashers, NEXT TIME, DO THE F*CKING
TESTS YOURSELVES you cheap assholes.

Ok, now back to researching.


WORD
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Photoshop can do AMAZING things :eek2:
 
I can appreciate a good debate just as much as the next guy. But it seems this kind of thread always tends to leak out a little too much information. IMO we are becoming too "comfortable" with what we post and should use more discretion. A lot of what has been said is common knowledge to most(I'm not talking about quality of gear here either), but why add fuel to the fire? I brought this up because it appears that seizures and controlled deliveries have been occurring more frequently lately.

My $.02

Hill Billy
 
:(

Do you IP haters realize he isn't even Chinese?.....do you know where he gets his powders from?....do you have any idea just how real these powders are?.....
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yes - I realize that we do not know what nationality he is - his MG pickup name is probably fake or someone else as well - anyone can get a "genuine" indian/pakistani/bangledeshi/etc. ID for very little cash to say anything that u want it to.

yes, i do know where he gets his powders from, tho some of his sources still elude me ;) - yes all the powders are real, are generally HPLC tested before he gets them and are made by liscenced pharmcos.

Do you realize that he doesnt have a lab at all! Its much cheaper to contract it out to a pill processor to mix it for you and make a run of 100,000 pills or so. no need to buy the equipment - cause its all legal there, presuming u have a pharma liscence. As to the injectables - that could be another story as to if he mixes those himself. The question is depending upon who you pick, the quality of contractors in China varies considerably and some are good and some are pretty sloppy.

Anyway - no point in bashing IP. His quality control is a little sloppy at times cause its done elsewhere but most of his products work as advertized. his customer service is not always the most friendly or cordial but ive never had a problem and hes been good to me on th eproducts Ive used. Either debate the quality of the product but no point in critisizing its maker - its not like hes trying to scam u fellas or anything.
 
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