Steroids, Infertility and sperm banking

[pudzian2]

I am a younger bodybuilder with high hopes of becoming competitive (doing a show this year) and hopefully moving up the ranks. ANYWAY.. that was simply said to imply that this is not an overreaction and that I have obvious intentions of safely using AAS for many years... ONE of the many POSSIBLE side effects of prolonged AAS use is decrease in sperm production and possible infertility. I dont see this topic discussed very often so the side effect may be overblown.

BUT why take the risk of becoming infertile?

well... What do you guys think about keeping some sperm in a sperm bank so that IF i were to become infertile there is at least a plan B..

any thoughts.

 

[kazz12]

That not a bad idea. I have been off an on for years .My wife wanted kids an when I got the test . It came back zero motility. Tried the usual methods to get back online ,an still nothing . I know I had been fertile at some point becaues I had gotten someone pregnant. At age 40 that is my one regret about my usage .

 

[Varga]

If you don't mind me asking, what usual methods have you tried and did not work?

Also, how long how you gone without using any HCG?
Just curious, thanks!

 

[pudzian2]

I had always assumed that the long term user would benefit from low dose HMG and HCG treatment to mimick LH and FSH in the body and thereby assist keeping sperm production motility going. I mean theres always the high dose HMG/HCG cycle protocols for trying to "fix" the problem that has been in the making for years of AAS usage but i believe in prevention

 

[splperformance]

well i've been on and off for quite a few years now and have 8-10 cycles under my belt...and 2 cycles a go, my g/f got pregnant and we're expecting our first baby girl in 8 weeks...but i am a firm believer in HCG on cycle and PCT as well as time off = time on + PCT time...i like to allow the nattys to get back to work before cutting them down a bit for a few months lol

 

[eddymerckx]

i am a big proponent of banking--at 41 i can get the numbers (was actually a donor in college), but the motility is not good (so I know there has been a profound change in 20 years). there is a million reasons why (not even a strong gear connection but who knows)--but it would have saved me >$30,000 right now doing IVF.

what is the downside? none i see but some cash out now and usually a yearly fee bfd.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

well i've been on and off for quite a few years now and have 8-10 cycles under my belt...and 2 cycles a go, my g/f got pregnant and we're expecting our first baby girl in 8 weeks...but i am a firm believer in HCG on cycle and PCT as well as time off = time on + PCT time...i like to allow the nattys to get back to work before cutting them down a bit for a few months lol

+1

 

[advanced-stealth]

Good way to do it.

well i've been on and off for quite a few years now and have 8-10 cycles under my belt...and 2 cycles a go, my g/f got pregnant and we're expecting our first baby girl in 8 weeks...but i am a firm believer in HCG on cycle and PCT as well as time off = time on + PCT time...i like to allow the nattys to get back to work before cutting them down a bit for a few months lol

 

[pudzian2]

yea im definitely just gonna bank some sperm. I sure-fire good investment

 

[galaxy]

Just use hcg, clomid, zinc, vitamin c and switch to boxers. thats what I did after months of trying when on heavy and it worked first month.

 

[pudzian2]

Just use hcg, clomid, zinc, vitamin c and switch to boxers. thats what I did after months of trying when on heavy and it worked first month.

what was your exact protocol and what was your cycle?

i will be administering HRT dose test between cycles and Im about to start a cycle in about 2 weeks (basically right after i make my first sperm deposit) BU TI FEEL LIKE SHIT NOW and im getting all sorts of noticeable female pattern fat deposits becuase simply put FUCK PCT... and i really want to go on HRT dose test until i start my cycle. 2 weeks this Wednesday is when i deposit sperm. anyone think i would be making a stupid choice just going back on low dose test until my cycle...? yea it may decrease sperm count a bit but i mean i cannot imagine my test levels are anywhere near recovered yet in this PCT ( was just one 600mg per week test prop and 500mg per week NPP for 8 weeks)... i feel like a replacement dosage of test while still administering low dose serm, zinc, c etc like mentioned above would actually make my sperm count better... wat do they need like 20,000,000 sperm? does it really matter if its a little lower for making a deposit.. I will be making like 3 deposits anyway.....(the first one will probably have the highest sperm count....)

 

[pudzian2]

sorry to BUMP this but im seriously considering waking up to a nice poke in the delt..... NEED SOME OPINIONS!!

 

[lilj888]

i saw a therad where the guy was infertile, and the doc said theres no way he is going to become fertile. but he used something like 5000iu eod and he became fertile and actually got his wife pregnant

 

[pudzian2]

i saw a therad where the guy was infertile, and the doc said theres no way he is going to become fertile. but he used something like 5000iu eod and he became fertile and actually got his wife pregnant

yea so screw feeling like crap. im never coming off HRT between cycles... Im banking sperm and im sure theres a good chance i will stay/become fertile again later.