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Steroid Users are INSECURE about themselves

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And, lifting weights is not only about image. Read "The Iron" by Henry Rollins. You can find it on the board somewhere.

It's a good read.
 
John Holmes said:
How about this:

People who start working out, and take steroids within the first year fit are the people you are talking about.


I agree that it is probably wrong in that situation...

People that wait 10 years simply can not accept their limitiations.

What are you trying to say?

Athletes that juice are losers. cheaters.

It is great to have an opinion. A statement like this one is screaming for a flame...a big one. Sentences like this are much better put if they are began with..."I feel that...".

Probably not a popular opinion, but I've been just as tempted as any other natural guy, but I chose to avoid steroids. A personal choice, yes, but I feel the right one.

I feel that you have made the correct decision, very much so. Please do not put down the decision made by others...I don't either.

Is vanity worth your health?
Ask the Mentzer's, Arnold, Davey Boy Smith, Brett Hart, Lyle Alzado....

I do not believe that vanity is worth my health. I don't know much about Mentzer, Smith, or Hart's problems...but I do know that Alzado's problems were basically just something SAID so that he would not take the heat for something else...

The only guy that is still alive is presently eating through a straw.

The Mentzer's are dead? Brett Hart is dead also? Did I miss something?

B True
 
Taking steroids is a personal choice, and as long as it doesn't affect anyone else I don't see what the problem is. I agree that people who turn to steroids without even trying to train naturally for at least a few years (absolute minimum) will never achieve much even with steroid use. When I started to train serious and first touched on the steroid subject I was 17 and wanted to get on them straight away, I'm glad I haven't yet....and the longer I train naturally and more research I do I know I have made the right decision. I'm pretty sure I will at some stage use anabolic steroids, maybe as soon as within a year, I'm 19 now. If I had steroids placed right in front of my face and said here you go, take them...I would be tempted but still want to train naturally for a few more years, but its hard trying not to give into temptation. In the end it comes down to personal choice...and no one has the right to look down on a "user."
 
Snatch518 said:
I'm talking about the normal every day folk. Students, people that work office jobs, etc., the people who don't lift/train or what have you for competitions.

I've never ever heard in my life someone taking stuff and not working out. Other than medical reasons.
 
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Snatch518 said:
I wasn't talking about professional bodybuilders or anything like that. I'm talking about the normal every day folk. Students, people that work office jobs, etc., the people who don't lift/train or what have you for competitions.

This topic irritates me because I'm a student who's surrounded by a bunch of roid heads who rather see their biceps grow an inch rather than doing something meaningful with their lives. I can understand lifting for health benefits, but if the only thing on your mind is about "getting big" then that is too much for me.

I was trying to create this controversy just to get other peoples point of view because I can't understand for myself why people do steroids.

Many of us on this site are athletes. Perhaps it is you who are sufferering from a lack of self esteem.

Use, don't use, compete, stay in the gym. I don' t care. Just get the Hell out of my way during rush hour, and I could care less what anyone else does.

B/
 
one time the doctor gave me steroids cause i was sick as hell...
(they werent muscle building ones though :( )
but snatch, everyone is entitled to their own choice. If you disagree or agree no need to purposely try to start a controversial thread.
 
Pineapple Devil said:
you sir are a damn moron. I've never ever heard in my life someone taking stuff and not working out.

I've known a few. Mostly it was the guys that smoked pot and used other drugs. They thought that they'd magically gain muscles and didn't know anything about training or cycling properly. It really does happen.

That isn't what the original post said, though. He said people that "aren't training for competitions." He's talking about the average guy that isn't competing but wants to look better by taking a shortcut. That type of person exists as well...I did a cycle with only 6 months of lifting behind me. It wasn't smart, even though I was educated and cycled properly.

The real question is where do you draw the line? Are ECA's drugs? How about protein powders, andro, and all of the legal supplements out there? There's a pretty fine line between taking an ECA and using DNP. They both help you to lose weight by messing with your metabolism.
 
I don't see a problem using steroids. I also don't see how others using steroids is any of your business. Honestly, I don't give a shit if the guy who trained a day plugs some dbol cause he isnt seeing the results he wants, cause it doesn't have the slightest effect on my life.

Athletes that juice are losers. cheaters.

Congratulations, you've just called just about every single olympic athlete a loser.

Juice these days is only really dangerous when abused, and the only people who abuse it (IMO) are (some) professional athletes and bodybuilders.

I think that those of us who make these types of generalizations are those who are very uneducated.
 
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