Starting this today - Monster Cycle!!

[the_alcatraz]

SO we're back to where we started. 30 mgs of var won't grow very much muscle and it'll suppress.

So -- you're still on cycle, just a less effective one.

We will agree to disagree...I stay hard and strong even on 30 mgs of var.

 

[the_alcatraz]

1.5 - 2 hours pre workout ..

30 mins pre workout and I'm already huffing and puffing

 

[Judo Tom]

you gotta start those long esters way earlier then you have originally outlined or you are gonna crash

 

[the_alcatraz]

I started them from week one. Did you read through this thread?

 

[Ifonly]

Subbed. Smash it brother!

 

[LetsGrow]

We will agree to disagree...I stay hard and strong even on 30 mgs of var.

I don't think it was a question of staying hard and strong but rather how the body will suppress your test levels and act as a mini cycle instead of bridging where the doses won't suppress you and still allow your body to produce its own natural test.


"you will never be happy with your results, but that shouldn't deter you from trying to obtain your goals"

~Me

 

[the_alcatraz]

I don't think it was a question of staying hard and strong but rather how the body will suppress your test levels and act as a mini cycle instead of bridging where the doses won't suppress you and still allow your body to produce its own natural test.


"you will never be happy with your results, but that shouldn't deter you from trying to obtain your goals"

~Me

Fair enough...That's why a bridge is a bridge, it's not being off..you are bridging two cycles...

 

[LetsGrow]

Fair enough...That's why a bridge is a bridge, it's not being off..you are bridging two cycles...

Well yes and no. You are off but still running a little something to keep your natural levels higher to allow you to keep progressing. So although you are off you are basically supplementing your natural test levels to keep them elevates and not suppressed.


"you will never be happy with your results, but that shouldn't deter you from trying to obtain your goals"

~Me

 

[the_alcatraz]

Well yes and no. You are off but still running a little something to keep your natural levels higher to allow you to keep progressing. So although you are off you are basically supplementing your natural test levels to keep them elevates and not suppressed.


"you will never be happy with your results, but that shouldn't deter you from trying to obtain your goals"

~Me

sooo....you're not off lol

 

[Nelson Montana]

We will agree to disagree...I stay hard and strong even on 30 mgs of var.

Plus 250 of test, right? That's almost 500 total mgs of gear of week. That's a cycle bro. No disagreement. It is what it is.