starting the build

[viperkiller317]

Ok so I'm staring my first cycle now and would like some insight. I'm taking in 4500 calories/day, 50mg of dbol and 150mg of prop a day. This is my first cycle and I would like to start off right, should I add any other supplements, increase the amount of what I'm about to take, or am I on the right track?? Thanks

 

[brandonp005]

what do you have for a PCT?

 

[the_alcatraz]

How old are you?

How long you been training?

weight? bf%?

what does your diet look like?

Do you know what PCT is? (I haven't seen you mention it)

 

[brandonp005]

How old are you?

How long you been training?

weight? bf%?

what does your diet look like?

Do you know what PCT is? (I haven't seen you mention it)

I was thinking the exact same thing.

 

[10001110101]

seems like a lot of gear for a first cycle.

you shall blow up.

 

[viperkiller317]

I'm 26, I have about 6 percent bodyfat, I've been training just to stay cut and in shape for about 4 years and decided since a lot of my buddies have gotten big from gear I'd like to check it out. I just don't know if I'm heading the right way so I wanna ask others who are knowlegable bc my friends seem to have gotten amazing results but the more people I talk too the better I feel about it. I train 4 days/wk right now and I I got clomid but haven't used any yet

 

[EZ_E]

150 Mg's of Test EVERY DAY????????

 

[Heath82]

150 Mg's of Test EVERY DAY????????

thats what i was thinkin. 150eod would still be a high dose for a first cycle.

 

[joe d]

you can use clomid for pct if you want but that alone is pretty shitty. you need to have some adex .25 - .5 eod as an anti-e while you are on cycle. you should at least add some supliments to your pct there are a lot of them out there. i like sustain alpha. thats a lot of test for some people. for me its good im on a 300mg eod and 50 mg ed dbol cycle right now. but since its your first run and you dont know how you will react to it you may want to consider a lower dose 150- 200mg eod you can always bump it up after a couple weaks. you may also want to consider some cycle support.

 

[HAYEZ]

doses are abit on the high side for first cycle but its not unheard of...
many people do 1000 mg test a wk as 1st cycles belive it or not

poster i would def get some adex .25mg eod

nolva for pct

60mg 7days
40mg 14days
sustain alpha throw in also

eat like a horse and you will blow up

 

[DaveTSI]

I'm 26, I have about 6 percent bodyfat, I've been training just to stay cut and in shape for about 4 years and decided since a lot of my buddies have gotten big from gear I'd like to check it out. I just don't know if I'm heading the right way so I wanna ask others who are knowlegable bc my friends seem to have gotten amazing results but the more people I talk too the better I feel about it. I train 4 days/wk right now and I I got clomid but haven't used any yet

6% bf huh? so how much do you weigh? 150mg of prop ed is going to get you huuuge along with the dbol. wayy too much for a first cycle, you would get huge gains off of 25mg of dbol and 50mg of prop

 

[Acela]

a gram of test EW is waaaaay overkill IMHO. I have 5 cycles under my belt and the most test that i have used is about 450mgs EW.

all you need is 250-300mgs of test EW, proper diet and PCT and you will be straight. a much easier recovery as well. you could seriously fuck yourself up doing all that gear. with no anti-e you will look like a balloon and you will just gain a ton of water weight....which you will then lose. seriously reconsider what you are doing and do research, research and more research

 

[viperkiller317]

Thanks for all the help and info guys, much needed wisdom and I appreciate it!

 

[silent says]

Im with you on this TSI.
Silent