Starting Monday!!

[gettinstarted]

I just got all my stuff in ill be starting monday morning.. this time around its gonna be

test E 500 mg 1-10
EQ 600 mg 1-10
dbol 50mg 1-4
anadrol 50mg 1-4.

all proper PCT is in place... what do you guys think?

 

[abomb]

Dbol and Anadrol together is a terrible idea. Your liver is going to be screaming. Pick one and save the other for your next cycle. I would use the dbol personally.

 

[dsh89]

Definately do not run the dbol and drol together bro. One or the other.

 

[gettinstarted]

I posted this cycle a few weeks ago when i was thinking about what to do and i got great responses from it. Everyone told me to make sure i had milk thistle on hand but everyone said to go for it

 

[jmead]

Definately do not run the dbol and drol together bro. One or the other.

this is an obvious.. what exactly were you thining here?.. but hey if your gonna run both.. space them out.. run one first 4 then the other last 3 and 1 week after last injection.. then pct it up 20ish days after your last EQ injection.. carry the test past the eq 1 week so they both clear at the same time.. id get some tylers liver detox or some kind of liver detox..

im on a very similar cycle now..

test 500 1-15
eq 600 1-14
dbol 45-50mg first 4 wks

about 55ish days in.. started 215 10-11%bf now.. 234 8-9% bf

 

[abomb]

Not on this board. Whoever was encouraging you to run Dbol and Drol together was dead wrong. Both are very liver toxic (drol more dbol), running them together is only going to make your blood pressure skyrocket. You will look like a blimp from water retention. Seriously if you choose to run both, you will be making an unwise decision. Milk thistle alone is not enough either. I would suggest stacking sesapure, glucorrel, and tylers liver detox from the anafit store.

 

[mikefear]

heh.. fun cycle, two orals together, not enough time for the eq.. and the fact that you didn't list your PCT has me doubting that you really have it in place.

re-think, repost and rework this whole idea.

 

[gettinstarted]

I didn't post the PCT because its a given with any cycle what you need to go.. but if u wanna see it here ya go..

1000 IU's HCG MON and FRI starting a week a last shot and then 100mg clomid 3 weeks after last shot

I still think im gonna try the 2 orals together, maybe ill lower the dose of the dbol to 30 or 40. A good friend of mine (also my source) jsut got off this same cycle and had great results.

 

[jmead]

I didn't post the PCT because its a given with any cycle what you need to go.. but if u wanna see it here ya go..

1000 IU's HCG MON and FRI starting a week a last shot and then 100mg clomid 3 weeks after last shot

I still think im gonna try the 2 orals together, maybe ill lower the dose of the dbol to 30 or 40. A good friend of mine (also my source) jsut got off this same cycle and had great results.

did he get bloodwork done and check his lipid panel? did he piss blood? your ignorant, and i guarantee you that you didnt post that on this forum and get approval.. dont be an idiot.. why even ask what we think if your going to do it anyway.. why not just up the dbol or drol and run one alone.. if your so stuck on high dose orals.. the dbol alone for me was more than enough at around 45-50mg ED.. im 6'5'' 230.. strength went through the roof.. what benefit are you thinking youll get by stacking the 2 together?

 

[gettinstarted]

First of all dont call me ignorant or stupid, and if you dont think i posted it on here then check my old posts. Anytime iv ever made a post iv never disrespected anyone so dont do it to me. The benefit i was going for was ultimate mass gains. I've taken dbol up to 60mg before and didnt get great results.

 

[abomb]

Your dbol was bunk then.

Like Jmead said, you've already made up your mind. Good luck.

 

[big.nad]

u didnt get great results from 60mg dbol ed?? why not drop the dbol well and go with the drol on its own. i havent even started my first cycle yet but know that those 2 orals is madness. its ur decision bro. if it worked for ur source then sure that must guaruntee the same cycle is going to work for u??? wouldnt bet on it! u might want to take some advice (not that im a know it all) but from the more experienced bros here that dont want to see u fuck urself up.

 

[gettinstarted]

Im def taking everyones advice, just not from some asshole thats gonna call me ignorant or an idiot. Im still trying to learn just like everyone else, maybe someone had some experiece with dbol and drol.. maybe one at a higher dose and one at a minimal dose. Im just trying to get everyones input, but i wont be put down for asking a question. I know everyone reacts different to certains steroids thats why im asking to get alot of different ideas frome everyone. So lets say i did jsut go for it and take both of them, and i took all the preventative measures to protect my liver. Whats the worst that could happen. I dont mind being bloated right now, its the winter time who cares.

 

[solidspine]

Skip the anadrol, never use it, it is madness, D-bol wonderful anadrol, big zits,

 

[gettinstarted]

I guess this question would be for the guys that know about the steroid in a more chemical sense.. what is the difference between dbol and anadarol?

 

[jmead]

Im def taking everyones advice, just not from some asshole thats gonna call me ignorant or an idiot. Im still trying to learn just like everyone else, maybe someone had some experiece with dbol and drol.. maybe one at a higher dose and one at a minimal dose. Im just trying to get everyones input, but i wont be put down for asking a question. I know everyone reacts different to certains steroids thats why im asking to get alot of different ideas frome everyone. So lets say i did jsut go for it and take both of them, and i took all the preventative measures to protect my liver. Whats the worst that could happen. I dont mind being bloated right now, its the winter time who cares.

saying your going to do something that everyone is telling you is unhealthy and risky.. is ignorant i dont care how you look at it.. if you didnt get results from 60mg dbol ED you werent doing something right or your gear was bunk.. and if you didnt get results from it why use it again.. it sounds like your "source" is making money off of you.. and possibly selling you BUNK dbol

from my experience with deca and my experience with test/eq.. if you want to get "ultimate mass gains" drop the eq throw in deca at 300-400mg EW and just kickstart with some NPP instead of the dbol.. i gained alot more size on my deca only cycle than i have so far with my test/eq (although im only 7 wks in).. dont get me wrong, ive gained 20 lbs so far.. the test/eq is leaner gains with alot more vascularity and my bf is dropping still.. but overall size/mass, go with deca

basically your saying your going to stack something that doesnt work for you and is liver toxic with something uve never used before that is liver toxic.. its not very smart logically.. look at it from an outsider instead of your "IM GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE I ARE SMART" attitude

 

[gettinstarted]

I never claimed to know everything about this stuff. Im trying to find different combos that work for my body. Im listening to eveyones input. And all my sources other gear has worked great. I started getting into this kinda young and was scrawy, i only weight about 165 lbs. Iv got 6 cycles under my belt now and i weight 225 with 14% bf at this point. Iv made huge gains with everytihng iv gotten from him. He puts together my workouts, my cycles, and my diet. He has never put me on anything that he hasnt tried first, and he just came off the cycle i just posted. He is really bloated right now but he put on almost 35lbs. He doesn't mind it because he starts competing in the summer and now is his time to put on as much mass as possible.

 

[jmead]

I never claimed to know everything about this stuff. Im trying to find different combos that work for my body. Im listening to eveyones input. And all my sources other gear has worked great. I started getting into this kinda young and was scrawy, i only weight about 165 lbs. Iv got 6 cycles under my belt now and i weight 225 with 14% bf at this point. Iv made huge gains with everytihng iv gotten from him. He puts together my workouts, my cycles, and my diet. He has never put me on anything that he hasnt tried first, and he just came off the cycle i just posted. He is really bloated right now but he put on almost 35lbs. He doesn't mind it because he starts competing in the summer and now is his time to put on as much mass as possible.

i dont think you are understanding the concept of water weight and bloat.. they are not keepable gains.. they just shed off gradually and sometimes immediately, what is the poit in gaining "WEIGHT" that will never be held on your body.. just to "look" big for a few weeks..

bottom line, if you want to blow up like a pufferfish, and drop half the size you gain.. and probably get a liver transplant.. go for it.. sounds appealing doesnt it?

how old are you by the way, im young but i think you might be younger from your reasoning

 

[gettinstarted]

Well there ya go, i was under the impression bloat was something else.. i guess i had bad information. when i thought about bloat i thought it was a good thing that eventualyl added to your overall size. so then what one do you think i should use? could i use the drol for the first 4 weeks, and then the dbol for the last 3 or 4?

 

[dsh89]

No bloat is water, pure and simple. It sheds off and you lose it. It is not muscle gain. Both Dbol and Anadrol are hard on your liver. Putting them together is not smart. I don't care that your friend did it, I have some really stupid friends and would never do some of the shit they do. If you are stuck on running Orals with your cycle, run EITHER Dbol or Drol for the first 4 weeks, the Winny or Var for the last 4 to tighten up.

 

[jmead]

Well there ya go, i was under the impression bloat was something else.. i guess i had bad information. when i thought about bloat i thought it was a good thing that eventualyl added to your overall size. so then what one do you think i should use? could i use the drol for the first 4 weeks, and then the dbol for the last 3 or 4?

bloat is another word for water retention.. its not a good thing unless you like looking like a blimp for a few weeks then dropping it all..

personally if i knew the dbol didnt work for me i wouldnt use it..

id run drol the first 4 weeks.. see what kind of results you get from it.. run tylers liver detox during and after.. get bloodwork done to check out your liver.. and then if you havent gotten the results you want.. sure throw it in again in the last few weeks of the cycle.. but like i said your still gonna bloat up and lose some of the gains on drol by itself..

i havent mentioned this yet but you dont want to run the eq for only 10 wks, you wont see the results you want from it for about 12-13 wks.. id run it at the MINIMUM of 14, i am extending mine out to 16-17 because i have seen it is taking awhile to come into full effect

drol,halo, and dbol are some of the hardest orals to maintain the gains because alot of it is water.. just expect some loss in size/strength after coming off of any of them.. some worse than others

good luck bro thats about all i got

 

[gettinstarted]

Well you were persistant with me ill give you that lol.. im gonan drop the dbol and just run the drol for 4 weeks...and like u i said if i dont like what i got so far ill add the dbol at the end. thanks bro ill post my progress when i start

 

[elmrod]

Well there ya go, i was under the impression bloat was something else.. i guess i had bad information. when i thought about bloat i thought it was a good thing that eventualyl added to your overall size. so then what one do you think i should use? could i use the drol for the first 4 weeks, and then the dbol for the last 3 or 4?

if ur set on using both try this,this is wat i running at the mo:

wk 1-12 sust 750mg wk
wk 1-12 deca 500mg wk
wk 1-4 adrol 50mg ed
wk 9-12 dbol 50mg ed

im just starting my 2nd wk.

 

[jmead]

if ur set on using both try this,this is wat i running at the mo:

wk 1-12 sust 750mg wk
wk 1-12 deca 500mg wk
wk 1-4 adrol 50mg ed
wk 9-12 dbol 50mg ed

im just starting my 2nd wk.

exactly.. split them up.. post up some precycle pics/stats/lifts id like to see someone else progress with a very similar cycle to mine

 

[gettinstarted]

Im gonna do exactly what you just posted except im gonna do my Eq instead of deca

 

[jmead]

Im gonna do exactly what you just posted except im gonna do my Eq instead of deca

get enough for 14 wks at least bro, trust me, youll want it

 

[mlong23]

I posted this cycle a few weeks ago when i was thinking about what to do and i got great responses from it. Everyone told me to make sure i had milk thistle on hand but everyone said to go for it

You posted this, and unfortunately people were probably making fun of you and suggesting that you have milk thistle especially if you were going to use both of these drugs together. They were laughing at you.

Milk thistle would help you, but you are still putting your body at an unneccsary risk.

 

[elmrod]

exactly.. split them up.. post up some precycle pics/stats/lifts id like to see someone else progress with a very similar cycle to mine

6ft
196lb
31 yrs old
12% bf

iv put on 2lb the first wk,eating shit loads but tryin 2 stay clean 2 keep bf down.

 

[mlong23]

First of all dont call me ignorant or stupid, and if you dont think i posted it on here then check my old posts. Anytime iv ever made a post iv never disrespected anyone so dont do it to me. The benefit i was going for was ultimate mass gains. I've taken dbol up to 60mg before and didnt get great results.

You may not have had legit dbol. What made you take 60mg, mainly because it sounds like you are still a novice. Many people can make good to great gains off of just 30 mg a day. My last few cycles I have stayed at either 20 or 25 mgs a day. Maybe I respond better than some, but never take more than you need.

Are you concerned about fat gain at all? Expect fat and a lot of water to your body. All in all, your cycle is just a bad idea to do both at the same time.

I don't know about the chemistry of the 2 drugs, but do a simple search on them and you will find your answer. Steroid.com is a good site for information on drugs. Both are c-17 drugs which affect your liver and kidneys pretty hard. At normal dosages, your safe as long as you are not running for extended periods of time. But when you add two strong orals like this, its just a bad time.

 

[gettinstarted]

Im not really concerned about fat gain at this point in time, im gonna do a big cutting cycle a few weeks after this one is over. and what about at small doses together, would the sides be as bad?

 

[jmead]

Im not really concerned about fat gain at this point in time, im gonna do a big cutting cycle a few weeks after this one is over. and what about at small doses together, would the sides be as bad?

dont you dare go back to trying both at the same time.. just stick with one at beginning and one at end..if needed..

also..

time on= time off..or once your levels reach pre-cycle again.. let your body recover before hopping back on to cut up..

 

[gettinstarted]

Im still going with splitting them up i was just asking for knowledge purposes