Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below What do u mean running the test to high, it's supposed to be more then he deca, and 50 mg isn't too high for dbol, iv done them before at higher dose with no problem. I'm also going to get som hcgenerate. And how is my pct terrible? What would u recommend, as for my bf % it could be less then 15 I don't know, I'm not doing this to enter a contest, I just know I'm not fat lol I can see abs. I know lots of people that had higher bf% that have done deca cycles and were fine. So when should I start taking the hcgenerate? About week 6?
He meant that your test is too high in relation to the dose of deca...
And you realllllllllyyy have to stop saying "I did this with no problem" and "Other guys do this with no problem"
It's an extremely reckless way of thinking....this is not to flame you it's to make sure you runs a cycle the proper, healthiest way.....
northernknight
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IMO 15% BF is not too high to cycle, or for this kind of cycle. Now 20% BF would be a completely different thing, that's where I would draw a line and keep away from AAS until BF is closer to 15-16%, and of course preferably even lower. In the end though it is not your stats what makes the most difference, IMO/IME it's always the persons own unique response to the compounds that are used. i.e. Some people can run three wet compounds at the same time without any significant bloat or other issues, while some will get gyno and moon faced from half Dbol.
Dylan is a great bro, and has wealth of knowledge to share, but he also has pretty high standards for these kind of things. Which is great because he does it for the sake of peoples health and safety, which are things that should always come first.
Still, I completely understand that not everyone is looking to be at 4-5% BF, if you want to run this kind of cycle, I don't see any problem with it, with your stats and experience.
So here's how would run it:
WKs 1-15 Test E 250 mgs/WK
WKs 1-12 Deca 500-600 mgs/WK
WKs 1-4 Dbol 30 mgs/ED
WKs 10-15 Winny 50-60 mgs/ED
WKs 1-4 Aromasin 12.5-25 mgs/ED
WKs 5-15 Aromasin 12.5 mgs/EOD
WKs 1-15 Caber 0.25-0.5 mgs/E3D
Wks 14-15 HCG 250-500 IU/EOD
You will also need to run support supps like N2GUARD/Cycle Support, and Aegis/TUDCA, for full cycle + PCT, and especially while on your orals. I would also run Hcgenerate ES weeks 6-13.
For PCT I'm sure that others will chime in, but I would run something like this:
WKs 16-21 Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5/12.5 mgs/ED
WKs 16-21 Aromasin 12.5 mgs/EOD
WKs 16-19/21 Ostarine 25 mgs/ED
WKs 16-21 Hcgenerate, Unleashed, PF Post Cycle as directed.
You can use Formestane or Liquedex AI, instead of Aromasin, but remember that good AI is a must have for you to run this cycle properly. Adjust your AI dose as needed to keep your E2 under control. If you won't use Hcgenerate ES, you should get some L-Dopa and P-5-P supplements to keep your Prolactin from increasing. By doing this you can minimize the use of Caber, or may not have to use it at all. Be sure to get everything you need to complete your cycle, support supps and PCT are crucial part of your cycle.
Good luck with your cycle bro, have a great ride!
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