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the.gladiator1987

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Alright guys, a bunch of threads about 10mg dbol in the AM being suppressive. Well my test levels in July were 330 (+/- 15). Not too good for being 21!

I am currently on week 11 of a 16 week cycle. Im taking 750mg test/beastdrol and now im ending the last 4 weeks with katanadrol. I am going to try and do dbol for PCT and I have blood work from august showing my test levels so I do have a legit experiment for this! My PCT is:

10mg dbol AM
HCGenerate
Forma Stanzol
Sustain Alpha
Clomid
UNLEASHED
POST CYCLE

One question. What time does dbol need to be taken? 6 am? Or what is the best time?
 
Take upon yur bodies magical wakeup. I'm in for this log. Be sure to continue a natty t booster after you cease the dbol so you Hpta will fully recover faster.
 
im curious to this as well - sub'ed
 
Gamer2Be08 said:
Take upon yur bodies magical wakeup. I'm in for this log. Be sure to continue a natty t booster after you cease the dbol so you Hpta will fully recover faster.
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My bodys magical wakeup you mean when i usually wake up? Its all fucked up because 3 days a week i work at 4 AM, other days I work at 9 AM, and the other days I sleep in till Noon

Would double dose UNLEASHED be a good enough test booster?
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
My bodys magical wakeup you mean when i usually wake up? Its all fucked up because 3 days a week i work at 4 AM, other days I work at 9 AM, and the other days I sleep in till Noon

Would double dose UNLEASHED be a good enough test booster?
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Thats more of a test freer..
You should get something more on the lines of Phytoserms or HCGenerate...for 4 weeks after the dbol.. That way for sure, even after PCT you will be recovered..
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
nvm just read your post. I will have to take itat 6 AM then go back to sleep on some days lol

Cant wait to start this! feel like its really gonna help keep and solidify gains

When would be the best time to start taking it, right when PCT starts or a week before as Im letting the test clear my system?
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ehhh, if you are on orals until PCT, the start on day 1 PCT..
But, if you arent gonna be on orals leading to PCT, start a week early..
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
One more questio. Would I get a better recovery if i dropped the test to around 500-600mg the last 4weeks kinda like tapering down?
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I think this is a bad idea. You are never coming off in my mind.
You are better off just blasting and cruising or just coming off properly.
 
i would run the dbol 2 weeks after your last test shot, run it for 4 weeks at 10mg/day then start your PCT. That way you are recovered some what by the time you start PCT.
 
columbo888 said:
Whats the theory behind this ?
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allows the HPTA to begin LH/FSH output, while still receiving additional anabolic support. This is the peroid of time where NON-inhibitory steroid while the endogenous testosterone level begins to recover. This occurs PRIOR TO FULL PCT, so that by the time we begin full PCT the HPTA has already began recovering.

The HPTA BEGINS to restore endogenous testosterone production once it detects the body's androgen level beginning to decline(end of cycle).

Therefore, HPTA CAN BEGIN TO RECOVER WHILE STILL IN AN ANABOLIC STATE!

keep loses to minimum.
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
One more questio. Would I get a better recovery if i dropped the test to around 500-600mg the last 4weeks kinda like tapering down?
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Yes, the esters will clear faster.
 
You can recover HPTA up to 90% and this has been proven before from members blood work, with 10mg dbol every morning during PCT..
Then after PCT, you come off dbol and let your body reach 100% naturally..
It really is not that complicated...
Dbol has HL of 4 hours or less.. When your body is ready to spurt out its second release of test, you will only have 5mg dbol in your system which is not enough to cause any feedback.
 
you will love it!
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
So Im running katanadrol starting today, then the katanadrol will be done 2 weeks after my last test shot, so instead of PCT right away I am doing dbol @ 10mg for 2 weeks
then starting my PCT with 10mg dbol included for 4 weeks
then running a natty test booster by itself after the 4 weeks of dbol/pct
then getting bloood work
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let me know how you go, and what sort of gains are kept as i will be running the same pre pct protocol for my next cycle in january.
 
I would go with the sleep over the interruption of sleep to take 10 mg of dbol. If it were me, I'd just take it as soon as I woke up. Of course I pretty much wake up around the same time every day...but still.
 
No shortcuts Glad. What you take from your body, your body will take from you whether you like it or not.
 
Just take it as soon as you wake up in the morning with or without and alarm clock
 
I was thinking about 10mg dbol bridge before but never actually did it.
You bastards talk me out of it :)
so it would be interesting to follow your log
 
The only way to know how this will work is to do a pre and post bloodwork. I'm pretty sure what the end result will be, but I'll sit back and wait for the results with everyone else. Should be interesting.
 
satyricon1 said:
Any update?
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ya bro, I decided to just finish my cycle and then take a strong PCT and recover. Im only 21 and i realized that ive done more than i can count of prohormones and im on my 3rd "real" AAS cycle. I need to recover and let my body be natural for a while so I dont think im gonna do the 10mg dbol am for pct

Its actually still up in the air tho, cuz either way im coming off for a long time. But i dont wanna lose my gains at the same time./ Im still deciding on this. but my cycle ends in about 3 weeks
 
Gamer2Be08 said:
IMO do dbol bridge..
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Im leaning on that side...I have been taking my hcg but only 2x a week. Im on katanadrol 5 caps ED and Dieselbolan 3 caps ED and when im done with those i will start PCT.

I have

2x HCGenerate
1x Sustain Alpha
1x Clomid
2x UNLEASHED
2x POST CYCLE
1x Forma Stanzol

Im gonna run everything for 4 weeks and then ill still have a bottle of HCGenerate, UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE for another 4 weeks. So 8 weeks of PCT. Ill do 10mg dbol for the first 4 weeks ONLY. That should be enough IMO.

And now Im on a schedule to where Im up early 7 days a week (either 3:30 AM or 6:30 AM) But those times should be close enough. Ill just pop it as soon as im up.

Ill have to go back and get blood tests from PRE cycle, and then post those up with the blood tests I take after PCT.
 
OK boys! Decided to run the 10mg dbol for 4 weeks. I still have all my PCT stuff available. Im also gonna be eating lot more food, and adding creatine to my current mix of pct supps.

Today is my last day of cycle, tmr i start pct/dbol. I ended cycle with impressive strength gains. I am gonna be doing a 4 day split for pct with each day focusing on either bench, deads/military, squats, or accessory.

Should I start clomid at 50mg then drop to 25 mg?
 
Did you ever push that 405 bro?
 
zorrin said:
Yeah, come on Gladiator, go for it! We're on page 4 of this thread. Now you've got us all excited, you have a duty to science!

I'm always reading theoretical stuff about a dbol bridge, but nobody who's ever done it writes about it. We're all sort of guinea pigs anyway on here, and you'll be a scientific pioneer - whether it works or not. At least we'll know.

I'm sure I'm not alone here in having millions of unused dbol pills. I'd like to find a use for them.
If you can take 10mg of dbol every morning and get through PCT, without losing muscle mass, or delaying your PCT recovery, I'll give it a try too.

I wonder if Turinabol would be a good bridging steroid? On the plus side, it doesn't aromatise to an estrogen (which is more suppressive than a testosterone derivative like dbol or tbol). On the minus side, it has a much longer half life that Dbol, so taking it in the morning and hoping that it doesn't signal your thyroid in the afternoon may be wishful thinking. Dbol feels stronger, mg for mg, and its half-life is short.. You could possibly get a better anabolic boost in the morning without spillover into the PM when your thyroid has to make a decision to signal your balls ,or not.

I'm coming off in a few weeks. I'd try it myself, but I'm using hcg on cycle for the first time, and I don't want two unknowns at a time. I won't know what substance is doing what. (I hope that makes sense)
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Yea bro that makes sense, if you have 2 variables then you wont know what did what.. ive already ran this PCT before so I know it works for me

tbol wont work because of the half life exactly like you said, dbol is the way to go. I am excited to run this. Just benched 395 at a bw of 205lbs at 21 y/o so I def wanna keep the strength as much as I can. I am gonna be working on strength consolidation during PCT, basically instead of one heavy set to failure, im gonna be working on sub maximal loads and get reps and volume with it to get used to the weight more if that makes sense.

I am gonna post today or tomorrow some details so I can have a guage to go by during pct. Gonna take some pics at night, take my bodyweight, take some measurements, and also write down my 4 main lifts as of today. Ill do the pics, measurements and bodyweight later, but right now my lifts are at:

bench: 395x1
squat: 435-455x1
deadlift: 475x6
standing btn military: 225x4
 
zorrin said:
Yeah, come on Gladiator, go for it! We're on page 4 of this thread. Now you've got us all excited, you have a duty to science!

I'm always reading theoretical stuff about a dbol bridge, but nobody who's ever done it writes about it. We're all sort of guinea pigs anyway on here, and you'll be a scientific pioneer - whether it works or not. At least we'll know.

I'm sure I'm not alone here in having millions of unused dbol pills. I'd like to find a use for them.
If you can take 10mg of dbol every morning and get through PCT, without losing muscle mass, or delaying your PCT recovery, I'll give it a try too.

I wonder if Turinabol would be a good bridging steroid? On the plus side, it doesn't aromatise to an estrogen (which is more suppressive than a testosterone derivative like dbol or tbol). On the minus side, it has a much longer half life that Dbol, so taking it in the morning and hoping that it doesn't signal your thyroid in the afternoon may be wishful thinking. Dbol feels stronger, mg for mg, and its half-life is short.. You could possibly get a better anabolic boost in the morning without spillover into the PM when your thyroid has to make a decision to signal your balls ,or not.

I'm coming off in a few weeks. I'd try it myself, but I'm using hcg on cycle for the first time, and I don't want two unknowns at a time. I won't know what substance is doing what. (I hope that makes sense)
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lol @ him being a pioneer. Tons of people have done the dbol bridge, and even posted about it. Fonz has written the most about it on EF. He no longer posts here, but his posts are still here.
 
ceo said:
lol @ him being a pioneer. Tons of people have done the dbol bridge, and even posted about it. Fonz has written the most about it on EF. He no longer posts here, but his posts are still here.
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does he have bloodwork? Where are his posts?

anyway im not sayin im a pioneer or anything but most of what i read is conflicting about dbol bridge....so it will be nice to have "updated" results, especially with all the new PCT supps there are now!
 
i stay on 10 mg dbol haven't lost much strength or any weight and been on letro about 2 months
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
does he have bloodwork? Where are his posts?

anyway im not sayin im a pioneer or anything but most of what i read is conflicting about dbol bridge....so it will be nice to have "updated" results, especially with all the new PCT supps there are now!
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Agreed. Bloodwork adds tremendous weight to any discussion on recovery, unless fonz had blood work his posts/logs are useless
:theshadow
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
does he have bloodwork? Where are his posts?

anyway im not sayin im a pioneer or anything but most of what i read is conflicting about dbol bridge....so it will be nice to have "updated" results, especially with all the new PCT supps there are now!
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you're plat. find 'em.
 
4 days on PCT and dbol. 10 days ago I did 225x4 behind the neck standing military. Last night I got it for 7! So my shoulders are stronger, but idk about my other lifts yet. For bench I did 5 singles of 365 and my max is 395, im gonna go heavier next time.

Also woke up rock hard this morning! Feeling great like im still on cycle! I know its only been 4 days but i was on 16 weeks of 750mg test and i took my last injection almost a month ago. I ended katanadrol 2 weeks ago, and dieselbolan 1 week ago. So so far so good guys, lets hope my test levels come back normal.
 
glad: the problem I see is that your pre cycle blood work came up as 330.. meaning you were still suppressed slightly although definately in recovery mode. you did not allow your body to FULLY recover before running another cycle. of course unless you ran a blood test before you started juicing at all we don't have a baseline.. heck 330 could be normal for you. or 530 could be normal and you just aren't recovered yet. we just don't know but my money would be on the latter.

make sure you clear your body of ALL esthers and allow atleast time on= time off before running a blood test. or else your results will be useless.

on the flipside don't run a blood test when you are say 3 weeks after a deca injection. it takes 5 weeks for deca esthers to clear the body! so your results will do you no good! or don't run a blood test 2 weeks after your sustanon injection as the long esther will still be in your body and your results will fool you the opposite way.

I ran a blood test once and it came up as 98 and i freaked out. well I was only 5 weeks out of my deca cycle. and the esthers were just then clearing so 98 was actually a good reading. 1 month later i was only at 119. 3 months later I re-tested in the 300's. so timing can make a huge difference.

noobs need to be careful not to run back to back cycles because recovery will be a bitch. i know a guy running back to back deca cycles. he ran no PCT and took 2 weeks off. that was his recovery.. 2 weeks. deca is hard enough to recover from 1 cycle, but running back to back cycles? good luck. now he is on HRT, when it wasn't necessary and all he had to do was be a little patient and allow himself to recover

PS thanks for doing this diary, shows you are serious about not only cycling but also about gaining and sharing knowledge. that is the kind of posters this board needs more of .. K headed your way
 
The blood test i did in August was definitely way after cycle, it was about 5 months later. I had ended my test/masteron cycle in March. I ran 2 weeks of a prohormone in July and a month later i took that blood test in August, so i think it should be an accurate reading right?

I see what ur saying tho since we dont have a baseline of what my levels were before any kind of juicing. Unfortunately I started prohormones at 17 and have been doing some kind of steroid ever since. So when i got my test levels checked and they were 330, IMO that was OK for me even though im only 21. So even if my normal values should be 500, they might be 330 just because of all the shit ive taken in highschool without a PCT.

Thanks for the response. I wanna know if this works. Definitely wanna give back to the board, I have learned so much from this site and its the only reason im even doing a full PCT with blood work.

stevesmi said:
glad: the problem I see is that your pre cycle blood work came up as 330.. meaning you were still suppressed slightly although definately in recovery mode. you did not allow your body to FULLY recover before running another cycle. of course unless you ran a blood test before you started juicing at all we don't have a baseline.. heck 330 could be normal for you. or 530 could be normal and you just aren't recovered yet. we just don't know but my money would be on the latter.

make sure you clear your body of ALL esthers and allow atleast time on= time off before running a blood test. or else your results will be useless.

on the flipside don't run a blood test when you are say 3 weeks after a deca injection. it takes 5 weeks for deca esthers to clear the body! so your results will do you no good! or don't run a blood test 2 weeks after your sustanon injection as the long esther will still be in your body and your results will fool you the opposite way.

I ran a blood test once and it came up as 98 and i freaked out. well I was only 5 weeks out of my deca cycle. and the esthers were just then clearing so 98 was actually a good reading. 1 month later i was only at 119. 3 months later I re-tested in the 300's. so timing can make a huge difference.

noobs need to be careful not to run back to back cycles because recovery will be a bitch. i know a guy running back to back deca cycles. he ran no PCT and took 2 weeks off. that was his recovery.. 2 weeks. deca is hard enough to recover from 1 cycle, but running back to back cycles? good luck. now he is on HRT, when it wasn't necessary and all he had to do was be a little patient and allow himself to recover

PS thanks for doing this diary, shows you are serious about not only cycling but also about gaining and sharing knowledge. that is the kind of posters this board needs more of .. K headed your way
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the.gladiator1987 said:
The blood test i did in August was definitely way after cycle, it was about 5 months later. I had ended my test/masteron cycle in March. I ran 2 weeks of a prohormone in July and a month later i took that blood test in August, so i think it should be an accurate reading right?

I see what ur saying tho since we dont have a baseline of what my levels were before any kind of juicing. Unfortunately I started prohormones at 17 and have been doing some kind of steroid ever since. So when i got my test levels checked and they were 330, IMO that was OK for me even though im only 21. So even if my normal values should be 500, they might be 330 just because of all the shit ive taken in highschool without a PCT.

Thanks for the response. I wanna know if this works. Definitely wanna give back to the board, I have learned so much from this site and its the only reason im even doing a full PCT with blood work.
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well according to Nelson and others the more cycles you run over time the more your HPTA function weakens. so its possible abusing steroids at a young age has led to your 330 level. we just don't know

the way you can really learn here is running 2-3 blood tests over a 4 week span. if your results fluctuate then you know that you are still in recovery mode. if they stay constant then you hit your baseline. my readings were 98 then 119 then 350. so obviously I was in recovery mode.. i waited 2 more months then started my next cycle. i was not ready yet.

also you know this but if some other noobs read make sure you test yourself before 8am. qwest opens at 7am i believe and you can usually just walk in and wait like 10 minutes
 
yes I believe it probably has, but who knows? All I know is that if it gets back to 330 or even HIGHER then it worked. But honestly at 21, it should be higher, hopefully it is.

But if my levels return back to 330 or higher, then we can conclude that the recovery worked and that10mg dbol AM in PCT. We can atleast say that I recovered from the 16 week test/beastdrol/katanadrol/dieselbolan cycle i did lol

So when should i do my first blood test? I was gonna wait till way after PCT so i didnt get an inaccurate reading.

stevesmi said:
well according to Nelson and others the more cycles you run over time the more your HPTA function weakens. so its possible abusing steroids at a young age has led to your 330 level. we just don't know

the way you can really learn here is running 2-3 blood tests over a 4 week span. if your results fluctuate then you know that you are still in recovery mode. if they stay constant then you hit your baseline. my readings were 98 then 119 then 350. so obviously I was in recovery mode.. i waited 2 more months then started my next cycle. i was not ready yet.

also you know this but if some other noobs read make sure you test yourself before 8am. qwest opens at 7am i believe and you can usually just walk in and wait like 10 minutes
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the.gladiator1987 said:
So when should i do my first blood test? I was gonna wait till way after PCT so i didnt get an inaccurate reading.
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the drols will clear your system quickly. the test will already be out.. run the PCT as best suits you. (i think HCG is a must for long cycles with test but if the PCT you have works for you then go for it) I would start the PCT immediately after your last kat dosage or within days.

after PCT wait 4-6 weeks then run your first blood test (your body SHOULD be creating its own test at this point), then wait 2 weeks and run a 2nd test, then wait 2 weeks and run a 3rd test. this is the most accurate way to do it.

if your 2nd and 3rd test come up the same then that is your baseline.

keep bridging with the dbol and the experiment will yield the results. also include liver test with your blood results to see if the 10mg dbol has any strain on the liver or not. and obviously i would stay away from alcohol to not skew the liver results.

I'll be back on here in a couple months to look at your results. keep kicking ass in the gym and DO NOT STOP. peace out all.
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
yes I believe it probably has, but who knows? All I know is that if it gets back to 330 or even HIGHER then it worked. But honestly at 21, it should be higher, hopefully it is.

But if my levels return back to 330 or higher, then we can conclude that the recovery worked and that10mg dbol AM in PCT. We can atleast say that I recovered from the 16 week test/beastdrol/katanadrol/dieselbolan cycle i did lol

So when should i do my first blood test? I was gonna wait till way after PCT so i didnt get an inaccurate reading.
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I recommend getting bloods 1-2 wks after pct.
 
Im gonna get bloodwork 2 weeks after PCT, then another 3 weeks later, then another 3 weeks later.

On a side not, i deadlifted 500x5 tonight, pretty stoked about that. So far my strength has increased since I started pct 4 days ago. btn military went up from 225x4 to 225x7 and deadlift went from 475x6 to 500x5. Weighing 204 so only 1lb lost
 
So I got sick for 2 days, lost about 5 lbs. Couldnt take dbol for one of those days because i was throwing up so i would have just thrown it up anyway. Sucked because i couldnt eat for shit, had to stop my creatine, but i still took my PCT supps.

But I feel 100% better again and my strength seems to be staying around the same. Even a little stronger in some lifts, except fro the squats. I have this nagging little hamstring tightness so im gonna go easy on squats.

Weighing around 200 but once i start eating like i did yesterday and from now on ill be back to 205 soon.
 
This is interesting. Glad shows signs of recovery but the specifics can not really be guaged so my assesment has to be speculative. I'd venture to guess most of the recovery was due to the PCT, and the d-bol both simultaneously preserved more muscle but did not allow for full recovery. How you want to read that is up to you.

I's day, once you recover completely AND STAY in that state for a few weeks, you can use an occasional 5 mgs of d-bol one hour before a tough workout. But on a daily basis, it's going to keep your HPTA a little suppressed.
 
Nelson Montana said:
This is interesting. Glad shows signs of recovery but the specifics can not really be guaged so my assesment has to be speculative. I'd venture to guess most of the recovery was due to the PCT, and the d-bol both simultaneously preserved more muscle but did not allow for full recovery. How you want to read that is up to you.

I's day, once you recover completely AND STAY in that state for a few weeks, you can use an occasional 5 mgs of d-bol one hour before a tough workout. But on a daily basis, it's going to keep your HPTA a little suppressed.
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I agree.

the true test would be to run a hard cycle, then no PCT.. and then bridge the dbol. then we would know for sure. but still everyone would have different results based on history, age, etc.
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
Alright guys, a bunch of threads about 10mg dbol in the AM being suppressive. Well my test levels in July were 330 (+/- 15). Not too good for being 21!

I am currently on week 11 of a 16 week cycle. Im taking 750mg test/beastdrol and now im ending the last 4 weeks with katanadrol. I am going to try and do dbol for PCT and I have blood work from august showing my test levels so I do have a legit experiment for this! My PCT is:

10mg dbol AM
HCGenerate
Forma Stanzol
Sustain Alpha
Clomid
UNLEASHED
POST CYCLE

One question. What time does dbol need to be taken? 6 am? Or what is the best time?
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Good I was going to do a similar experiment. HAlf life of Dbol is very short relative to other orals if you just take it when you wake up it should be out of your system long before you go to bed.
 
digit0x said:
Good I was going to do a similar experiment. HAlf life of Dbol is very short relative to other orals if you just take it when you wake up it should be out of your system long before you go to bed.
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Yep dbol seems to be the only one that would work with such a short half life.

BTW guys I am feeling fuckin good, i dont feel like ive lost any size and BARELY any strength. I also get rock hard boners still. The clomid might be making me a little emotional but right now i am going through some emotional shit so that may just be normal. I still feel like a fuckin beast walkin around. And ive only lost a couple lbs since the end of my cycle.
 
did you find out if they were 10 or 5 mg dbols lol
 
Its going good bro! I am around 200lbs right now but I lost water weight and thats all because I feel just as big and im more veiny which is awesome. My sex drive and libido and sense of well being is off the charts, I will know this week how my strength is. I did 395x1 on cycle and now i am doing 365x2, so not a huge decrease. I am also going from my usual 5 heavy reps to 10 reps. Im lowering the weight but really pounding out the reps now because my joints hurt a little bit from this last cycle. But I also wanna see what 10 reps vs 5 reps does for my size.

I need to get back on creatine, i heard dbol and creatine are synergestic!
 
lol that sucks but I also use creatine think it's called alkalyne... Monohydrate bloats me worse then 50 mg dbol and wrecks my stomach
 
C.K. said:
lol that sucks but I also use creatine think it's called alkalyne... Monohydrate bloats me worse then 50 mg dbol and wrecks my stomach
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i hate mono its such a pain in the ass to mix it with water and drink it every day id rather jus pop pills im good at that :)

I know what ur talking about, kre-alkaline, I will try that. You only gotta take like 3g of that stuff compared to 10g of mono
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
i hate mono its such a pain in the ass to mix it with water and drink it every day id rather jus pop pills im good at that :)

I know what ur talking about, kre-alkaline, I will try that. You only gotta take like 3g of that stuff compared to 10g of mono
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yeah I take 2 pills on of days and 4 on workout days along with jack3d preworkout man that stuff gives you such clean energy
 
Thanks Gladiator and CK for your feedbacks I am finishing my cycle in a week or so.I'll definately gonna bridge with 10mg dbols for 2 months till my next cycle.
 
I'll try it I like jack3d cuz it doesn't make me as nauseus as noxplode or the runs like superpump aka superdump lol 2.5 hr workouts are nothing and I love the tingles :evil:
 
Speaking of bridges, what other compounds would work? I know the half life should be short. So what other steroids could be effectively used?
So far theres, Dbol, Var, and Primo.
Could you use higher androgenic steroids like Halo, proviron, ect... ect. for anti-progestin effects while on PCT
 
you can bridge on pretty much any oral at the risk of your libido but the point of the dbol is to allow yourself to pct and recover too I'd never use any other roid in my pct plus even at sucha low dose energy strength and mood are decently boosted
 
C.K. said:
you can bridge on pretty much any oral at the risk of your libido but the point of the dbol is to allow yourself to pct and recover too I'd never use any other roid in my pct plus even at sucha low dose energy strength and mood are decently boosted
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I'm asking if there are any other steroids besides Dbol, Var, Primo, and Proviron that can be taken safely that will not keep you suppressed.
I'm aware you COULD bridge with M1T or Methyltrienolone, but it probably wouldn't be a good idea lol. :chomp:
 
wooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

Just found out my dbols ARE 10mg :)

thank god lol. Only thing i can complain about right now is acne on my back and shoulders, its gettin kinda bad but it always does in PCT for me. I just started taking accutane so that should help a lot.

Ima be on dbols for another 30 days probably. I am not taking any liver supps, I did take forged liver support for 30 days along with the prohormones, and then i started taking the dbol and PCT.
 
skaman beastdrol is way to strong and toxic to stay on and no I use no liver supps besides what's in hcgenarate
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
I rly dont think there are other steroids that would work....MAYBE there are steroids with short half lives like dbol BUT I can almost bet that they are not as anabolic....thats what makes dbol the best thing. Most anabolic, not toxic, out of ur system that day
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AHHH ok, I was gonna say I could pop up a few more anabolic with just as short half life... But more toxic lol
 
skaman007 said:
so you still recover with the 10mg dbol bridge...but not fully .say 80% ,,is that correct?
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Higher I'd say 90 or 95% the timing and dose is BARELY if at all suppresive it's roughly the exact same dose your body is already producing in the morning and last just as long as your bodies natural spike
 
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