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Standing Dumbell Presses vs Seated Dumbell Presses
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automaticj5
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you have to balance yourself when standing -- you cant throw your back against the seat.... standing up you just have to worry about form -- I usually do overhead bb press and then ill sit and do db press...
Standing is easier for me cause I can cheat a little and therefore lift more weight. Seated is a more controlled movement and probably a better range of motion with it.
Seattleite
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I never do an exercise form a seated position if it can be done standing. When standing, you can use your legs to help out a bit when you get to higher weights. If you're sitting down and the weight gets too heavy, you're pretty much fucked.
enigma4dub
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i dont see where there could be a difference in range of motion??
you are using more muscle groups when standing. also you dont haveto cheat when standing. there are different variations of overhead press : jerk, push, strict. behind the neck etc.
imo a barbell is better suited for both, because the load is so much greater. plus how are you supposed to do heavy db's standing? have someone hand you the weights?
you are using more muscle groups when standing. also you dont haveto cheat when standing. there are different variations of overhead press : jerk, push, strict. behind the neck etc.
imo a barbell is better suited for both, because the load is so much greater. plus how are you supposed to do heavy db's standing? have someone hand you the weights?
Blane
New member
Hi All:
Thank you all....
My current shoulder workout:
3 sets 5 reps seated dumbell presses
3 sets 8 reps bent over (cable)
3 sets 8 reps side lateral raises(Cable)
3 sets 8 reps fornt raises(Cable)
Shrugs 3 sets of 8 reps or
Upright Rows 3 sets 8 reps(Cable)
Do overhead presses hit all of the delts?
If so. What are your thoughts on getting rid of all the cable work and doing both standing and seated overhead presses?
Thank you all....
My current shoulder workout:
3 sets 5 reps seated dumbell presses
3 sets 8 reps bent over (cable)
3 sets 8 reps side lateral raises(Cable)
3 sets 8 reps fornt raises(Cable)
Shrugs 3 sets of 8 reps or
Upright Rows 3 sets 8 reps(Cable)
Do overhead presses hit all of the delts?
If so. What are your thoughts on getting rid of all the cable work and doing both standing and seated overhead presses?
highlander555
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From a bodybuilding perspective, if you have all the time in the world to focus on tiny little details in your development, seated is probably slightly better. From and athletic perspective standing wins every time. Guess it depends on what you're goals are.
I perfer standing because of all the stabalizer muscles it works, like abs, obliques, and back. Those are all the hollywood muscles I want to work anyway. Plus, I dabble in some strong man competitions as a hobby, so I need the stabilization work.
I perfer standing because of all the stabalizer muscles it works, like abs, obliques, and back. Those are all the hollywood muscles I want to work anyway. Plus, I dabble in some strong man competitions as a hobby, so I need the stabilization work.
Seattleite
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Blane said:
I come from the school of thought that the big compound lifts give your shoulders all of the work they need. The standing barbell press pretty much works the entire shoulder, the bench press hammers the front delts, deadlifts build the traps, and barbell rows take care of the rear delts (as do pull-ups). I've just never been much of a believer in the isolated exercises like side/front or rear delt raises. The weight is so small compared to those other lifts that it just doesn't seem like it can have much of an impact. Shrugs are a good assistance exercise whenever you need time off from deadlifting.
Blane
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Thank you all.
Standing bb presses it is.
I will need to decrease the poundage till my body gets used to the movement. I did standing dumbell presses the other day for my warmup sets. The benches were being used.
I remember thinking wow. My abs are weak!!!!!!! i could feel the challange of trying to stabalize. What should i be feeling when i do the standing bbpress? of course my shoulders..Should i arch the back? keep it straight. I was tempted to use my legs..ill fight that. slight bend in knees?
Please advise.......
Standing bb presses it is.
I will need to decrease the poundage till my body gets used to the movement. I did standing dumbell presses the other day for my warmup sets. The benches were being used.
I remember thinking wow. My abs are weak!!!!!!! i could feel the challange of trying to stabalize. What should i be feeling when i do the standing bbpress? of course my shoulders..Should i arch the back? keep it straight. I was tempted to use my legs..ill fight that. slight bend in knees?
Please advise.......
Seattleite
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It's not a terrible thing to use your legs. That's exactly what a push press is all about. They shouldn't be the primary mover during the lift, but it's okay to let them help out. Most people will start out with a strict (military) press, but it will eventually evolve into a push press.
enigma4dub
Active member
Blane said:
your core and lower back are gonna get hammered for a while, doing them standing, you will get used to this. as for leg drive: you could do your primary work sets with leg drive and do a back off set at at the end strict. i dont see a difference from athletics and aesthetics. my rule: load is king. and with the help of leg drive you can obviously put a lot more weight overhead, thus stimultating more growth.
Seattleite
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So you clean the weight every time?drsketch said:
automaticj5
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damn -- fuck grabbin it from the floor -- I use a squat rack or something similar cause I can leave the barbell pretty high...
I lift in my basement with low(er) ceilings, so I'm forced to do seated presses. I also use a 90 degree bench and a support for my back (I know, but trust me, I need it) I basically stick with dumbells. Never really tried barbell seated. With my back up against the 90 degree bench, it might not be a good idea.
Anyway, I agree, you should get rid of those cable movements. I would also try not to do too many pressing movements like standing bb AND seated dumbell. Just make sure the total sets don't go higher than your predtermined goal. Seems overkill to me. Side or bent laterals aren't really bad, it's just the cables I dislike. I guess it depends on where you are in terms of your training. Good luck
Anyway, I agree, you should get rid of those cable movements. I would also try not to do too many pressing movements like standing bb AND seated dumbell. Just make sure the total sets don't go higher than your predtermined goal. Seems overkill to me. Side or bent laterals aren't really bad, it's just the cables I dislike. I guess it depends on where you are in terms of your training. Good luck
stosstruppe
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I'd go with standing myself as it works more muscles groups, core stability and is generally a more "functional" (real world application) movement.
Isn't sitting overhead pressing bad for the spine or was that debunked as bollocks?
Isn't sitting overhead pressing bad for the spine or was that debunked as bollocks?
Blane
New member
thanks again all.
Did standing bb presses yesterday. im in unexplored territory. so i started light. Not counting warm up sets.
1 set 5 reps 95lbs
1 set 5 reps 115lbs
1 set 5 reps 135lbs
next week ill do 3 sets 5 reps 135lbs.
I did not use legs at all. i did feel compelled to though.
A form question. i am keeping a slight bend in my knees. but im arching my lower back, so there is a bend in my back. i also lost my balance and had to take a small step back with my right foot. is this normal being new to this exercise?
I also kept the bar in front of my body. Did not do behind the neck. And was using a fasle grip. Meaning i did not wrap my thumbs around the bar.....
Advice all?
Did standing bb presses yesterday. im in unexplored territory. so i started light. Not counting warm up sets.
1 set 5 reps 95lbs
1 set 5 reps 115lbs
1 set 5 reps 135lbs
next week ill do 3 sets 5 reps 135lbs.
I did not use legs at all. i did feel compelled to though.
A form question. i am keeping a slight bend in my knees. but im arching my lower back, so there is a bend in my back. i also lost my balance and had to take a small step back with my right foot. is this normal being new to this exercise?
I also kept the bar in front of my body. Did not do behind the neck. And was using a fasle grip. Meaning i did not wrap my thumbs around the bar.....
Advice all?
Are 3 working sets enough? Not sure, I have trouble with volume myself.
G
gettnheavy
Guest
For some reason I do military presses with the bar only in front of my head not behind the neck and I get less pressure on shoulder than single db shoulder presses.
Blane
New member
gonelifting said:
I dont know if they are enough. i can tell you my shoulders are more sore than they have ever been. I feel my lower back, abs, midsection all worked. i love the way this is going.
As my body becomes more used to it. ill add sets. After the three working sets i was exhausted..i felt like i was going to puke. lol
It is so different then seated.
