Stacking question

[uberreem]

Ok I'm gonna ask a newbie type question...

I've run about 3 cycles


From my experience it seems like taking test gives you the best gains, and taking it with an ai gives you the cleanest games

So my question is for my next cycle instead of doing 750mg test and 700mg eq, would I get better results just doing 1 g or even 1.2 g of test without eq?

I don't compete so I'm just wondering what the value is in stacking

 

[kubes]

I wouldn't run eq at all. Raises hematocrit. I would run nandralone in a stack if you want to add another compound

 

[Pump3d]

Please post your previous cycles so we can get a better idea of what you're accustomed to. A.i's are not used to just give you a cleaner look there to keep estrogen stop estrogen related side effects such as gynecomastia, water retention, increased heart rate, hypertension ECT. There's no reason you need to go that high with the test from your posts I can tell that you do not have a lot of experience with AAS. I'd like to know your stats height, weight and body fat. If you need to go to 500 mg a test p/w on your fourth cycle, rather than just keeping the test the same and adding another compound....you get better results with the side effects. You really need to do some researchit seems like this stuff is a little bit over your head and you should probably start back from square one until you know exactly what's happening to your body physically and chemically and fully understand it you should not be cycling. Good luck man do some research.

 

[uberreem]

Please post your previous cycles so we can get a better idea of what you're accustomed to. A.i's are not used to just give you a cleaner look there to keep estrogen stop estrogen related side effects such as gynecomastia, water retention, increased heart rate, hypertension ECT. There's no reason you need to go that high with the test from your posts I can tell that you do not have a lot of experience with AAS. I'd like to know your stats height, weight and body fat. If you need to go to 500 mg a test p/w on your fourth cycle, rather than just keeping the test the same and adding another compound....you get better results with the side effects. You really need to do some researchit seems like this stuff is a little bit over your head and you should probably start back from square one until you know exactly what's happening to your body physically and chemically and fully understand it you should not be cycling. Good luck man do some research.

I've done plenty of research and do understand the basics, I may have not worded my post accordingly because I was trying to keep things simply so here goes

At 500mg of test I've haven't run an ai as most people don't.

I just meant if I ran test in excess of 500 say 750, 1gram etc an ai would obviously be needed and with that you would get cleaner gains due to the lack of water retention so with that I'm asking if it's better to run a high dose of test with an ai or keep test at 500 without an ai and instead use eq which doesn't aromatise

 

[kubes]

You might be surprised what your estrogen level is at when running 500 mg of test. I used to run my test cycles with no ai cause I didn't have any negative side effect but when I ran labs and saw how high my estrogen level was it changed my outlook. Now I always run an ai with my cycles

 

[uberreem]

You might be surprised what your estrogen level is at when running 500 mg of test. I used to run my test cycles with no ai cause I didn't have any negative side effect but when I ran labs and saw how high my estrogen level was it changed my outlook. Now I always run an ai with my cycles

Oh I'm not doubting that e levels are still high on that dosage, I'll get bloods done if I do 500 just to see how high then use an ai if the levels are too high

 

[jtmdell]

I'd just run the test and eq at say 500 and 700 respectively. Use an ai. There's no need to go that high on test only right now.

 

[Pump3d]

EQ does slightly heighten your estrogen levels by the way. You gotta understand my man is a not necessary for some people because they don't mind dealing with the side effects of high estrogen and the reason they don't mind is because their misinformed and haven't ran a proper cycle. Do you even know how much better you'll feel on cycle with a low dose Ai? It keep your estrogen levels at a normal level so you're going to avoid all the blood pressure issues, the water retention and all the bullshit basically that come with running a cycle wrong. You got advice from I believe 2 to 3 different people they've all said the same thing, I hope you realize that you're thinking is incorrect. I really hope you don't take this is me being a dick I want to help you out just like these guys before you screw something up. I do admit I do get frustrated when I see people so adamant about this subject, and at the same time all the boys are littered with guys freaking out about gyno. Think about it and listen to the guys that I've been doing this for years, you'll learn a lot.

 

[uberreem]

EQ does slightly heighten your estrogen levels by the way. You gotta understand my man is a not necessary for some people because they don't mind dealing with the side effects of high estrogen and the reason they don't mind is because their misinformed and haven't ran a proper cycle. Do you even know how much better you'll feel on cycle with a low dose Ai? It keep your estrogen levels at a normal level so you're going to avoid all the blood pressure issues, the water retention and all the bullshit basically that come with running a cycle wrong. You got advice from I believe 2 to 3 different people they've all said the same thing, I hope you realize that you're thinking is incorrect. I really hope you don't take this is me being a dick I want to help you out just like these guys before you screw something up. I do admit I do get frustrated when I see people so adamant about this subject, and at the same time all the boys are littered with guys freaking out about gyno. Think about it and listen to the guys that I've been doing this for years, you'll learn a lot.

Ok I appreciate your feedback and I'm with you on that. I actually was going to use an ai with test usage in excess of 500mg. But now I'll use it even if I run 500 so thank you for that


So back to my original question, what yields better results?

500mg test with 600eq and an ai

Or

1000mg test with an ai?

Thanks

 

[Pump3d]

That's a good question. If you want sheer size and strength with a little extra bloat and possibly more side effects depending on how into you are with your body. EQ a test you'll still put on some size but it will be more lean muscle rather than pure size like the gram of test. The numbers on scale won't be as high, there's a risk that you could be one of the people that doesn't react well to EQ. Some people get a lot of anxiety from it but I rarely hear that. EQ will also raise your RBC tremendously and if you're serious about your health you should give blood a couple times while you're on EQ to bring your numbers down. This will be really effective in managing your heart rate. I personally would rather the test and eq because my goal isn't sheer size it's quality size and lean muscle. Test and eq bring you more quality then a gram of test alone. Personally I'd run 750 mg of test 800 mg of EQ for probably 20 weeks( giving blood pressure regularly ) I don't suggest you raise your doses I've worked up to these doses you will not get better gains. Increasing your dosages is dumb you'll just get more side effects because your body will not utilize it it's a waste for you stick to 500 mg test and 600 mg of eq.