stack anavar w/ sarms?

[bryceman41]

have some anavar from genezapharm enough for about 2weeks. and i have s4/gw and might buy mk2866 tonight. I've been taking s4/gw for about a week now.

You think i can throw in the 10mg pills along w/ the sarms?
Also as far as post cycle. which i only plan on running this for 6weeks. What should i get? bridgE/n2guard/hcgenerate?

 

[BshMstr]

have some anavar from genezapharm enough for about 2weeks. and i have s4/gw and might buy mk2866 tonight. I've been taking s4/gw for about a week now.

You think i can throw in the 10mg pills along w/ the sarms?
Also as far as post cycle. which i only plan on running this for 6weeks. What should i get? bridgE/n2guard/hcgenerate?

how have your gains been so far?

i recall seeing an article a while back that indicated that combining SARMS and AAS are not a good idea... basically trying to occupy the same receptor, and wasting one or the other. realistically, while a low dose of anavar (what are you planning, by the way?) could accelerate strength gains and fat loss, it almost seems like a waste, if you're currently seeing results...

 

[dabuffguy]

how have your gains been so far?

i recall seeing an article a while back that indicated that combining SARMS and AAS are not a good idea... basically trying to occupy the same receptor, and wasting one or the other. realistically, while a low dose of anavar (what are you planning, by the way?) could accelerate strength gains and fat loss, it almost seems like a waste, if you're currently seeing results...

Combining the two is completely fine.


Look at guys running over a gram of gear per week. Those androgens are competing for receptors and the overall effects of several compounds in that high of a dose are synergistic (better).

It would be no different with sarms. Them competing for receptors is no different than using multiple compound/high doses of AAS.

 

[BshMstr]

Combining the two is completely fine.


Look at guys running over a gram of gear per week. Those androgens are competing for receptors and the overall effects of several compounds in that high of a dose are synergistic (better).

It would be no different with sarms. Them competing for receptors is no different than using multiple compound/high doses of AAS.

i guess i disagree (based off this theory, which i need to research further)...

high doses of AAS cause multiple growth pathways, other than simply stimulating androgen receptors (which is the only growth mechanism for SARMs). the whole class 1/class 2 theory is based around the propensity to bind to receptors, though... however, i agree that you have a valid point, as i have no idea how tightly Ostarine binds to the receptor (as opposed to Anavar, which is known to bind rather weakly). as long as Ostarine binds more effectively, then Anavar can do other growth producing things in the body...

 

[BshMstr]

the other issue would be dosing based off half-life... S-4 is relatively short (4 hours, i believe), as is Anavar (9 hours)...

S-4 in the morning, Anavar around noon?

 

[BshMstr]

i guess i disagree (based off this theory, which i need to research further)...

high doses of AAS cause multiple growth pathways, other than simply stimulating androgen receptors (which is the only growth mechanism for SARMs). the whole class 1/class 2 theory is based around the propensity to bind to receptors, though... however, i agree that you have a valid point, as i have no idea how tightly Ostarine binds to the receptor (as opposed to Anavar, which is known to bind rather weakly). as long as Ostarine binds more effectively, then Anavar can do other growth producing things in the body...

and, i was apparently wrong about Anavar binding weakly...

i found this excerpt on this site:

"Anabolic Steroids achieve their effects on hypertrophy through different mechanisms,and as such are classified into two different categories,class-I and class-II compounds.I will explain which ones work through which pathway,and how to effectively combine opposing groups to maximize potentiation of one another for explosive growth....

Class-I-These are steroids who's primary influence on anabolism is achieved through aggressive binding and activation of the androgen receptor...Examples of potent class-I's are-Deca-durabolin,primobolan,equipoise,oxandrolone...

Class-II-These are compounds with potent activity independent of A/R binding/activation,and their activity has been monitored in neuron's,microsomes,mitochondria,etc...Examples of potent class-II's are-Anadrol,Dianabol,winstrol,Fluoxymesterone...

Then we have steroids that are potent combination steroids all by themselves(meaning they display influences on growth through both class-I and II activity,and thus are very effective as'stand-alone'anabolic agents as well as forming the 'base' of most steroid stacks)....Two compounds possess this unique characteristic-Trenbelone and testosterone.Either of these two steroids should form the base of most users stacks,as the cover both A/R and non-A/R mediated mechanisms,and adding to them with either a class-I or II will only potentiate that particular mechanism towards muscular hypertrophy...

Now that we're aware of which compounds work through which mechanism,how do we combine them effectively to maximize each one's potential?As explained above,testosterone and trenbelone should form the base of any serious steroid stack,but great effects can be had by combining single mechanism steroids from opposing classes....Examples of this type of synergistic combining could be(but are not limited to)"

and i found this elsewhere:

"Class I : binds to androgen receptor

Trenbolone
Oxandrolone
Primobolan
Masteron
Nandrolone
Boldenone

Class II : Does not bind to androgen receptor

Dianabol
Anadrol
Winstrol (possibly somewhat mixed)

Mixed

Testosterone
Probably Oral Turinabol , but I haven't done adequate trials with it."

 

[bryceman41]

So i can take like 10-50mg maybe certain days? low doses throughout the week and it will add a lil something extra boosts maybe along w/ taking sarms. my results i havent really noticed much. im already vascular but my areas i work are starting to feel hard and maybe stronger...need more time to see.

Also what about a pct?

 

[bryceman41]

im going to try this stack starting tomorrow:

Anavar 10-30mg on wakeup
S4-25mg hour after var
WORKOUT
CW-5mg
S4-25mg


im a lil hesitant on the CW due to the tumor and cancer side effects some im just going to run that at a low dose. The s4 iv had no problems noticing so far.

 

[dabuffguy]

So i can take like 10-50mg maybe certain days? low doses throughout the week and it will add a lil something extra boosts maybe along w/ taking sarms. my results i havent really noticed much. im already vascular but my areas i work are starting to feel hard and maybe stronger...need more time to see.

Also what about a pct?

Not "certain days". Keep your blood levels stable as possible. Take the same amount the same time of day every day.

 

[C0LUMB0]

2 weeks of var is a waste of time,money and gear.
save it until you enough for a 6 week run @ 60mg minimum...

 

[bryceman41]

yeah i realized that i didnt have enough for a 6 week cycle, when the package came. that they were 10mg only so. im just doing an experiment to see if it does a boost on strength/lbs for the short 2 week cycle on var. combined with sarms.... i do have this liver protectant called synthergine 100ml of it. and some milk thistle too.

i have a good pct for libido/testosterone it was a supplement on the market that got banned now...hopefully that will help.

 

[dylangemelli]

I don't understand why you would waste something expensive and of quality like anavar for two weeks... that makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever... that's a complete waste... also... you CAN run sarms with any aas and although they will still provide results, there are a few reasons why I don't recommend it... The receptor competition will make them not work as great as they can when ran alone... They WILL still provide results but not as they would by themselves... The MAIN reason why I don't like it is because SARMS ARE BEST UTILIZED AS A BRIDGE... Why take away from using them as a bridge when you truly need to have something to help maintain or add to your gains... Your not going to want to run them on a cycle and run them right away again on a bridge... That defeats the entire purpose.... You truly need them then, not with a steroid cycle... Running them back to back is not a good idea as they will not be nearly as effective... Its just not the best way...

 

[bryceman41]

I don't understand why you would waste something expensive and of quality like anavar for two weeks... that makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever... that's a complete waste... also... you CAN run sarms with any aas and although they will still provide results, there are a few reasons why I don't recommend it... The receptor competition will make them not work as great as they can when ran alone... They WILL still provide results but not as they would by themselves... The MAIN reason why I don't like it is because SARMS ARE BEST UTILIZED AS A BRIDGE... Why take away from using them as a bridge when you truly need to have something to help maintain or add to your gains... Your not going to want to run them on a cycle and run them right away again on a bridge... That defeats the entire purpose.... You truly need them then, not with a steroid cycle... Running them back to back is not a good idea as they will not be nearly as effective... Its just not the best way...

well i basically bought the wrong amount of var and wasnt paying attention, so im just going to experiment w/ them. im still waiting on buying the mk as well. the var, if taken in reccom. doses would only last me about a week or 2. So, im just gonna try it out. yes, it is defeating the purpose in a way i see that but since its not really that good of an aas. and i have a small amount. it binds with the androgen rc. so maybe they will both sarms/var work together.

if it works and i see no side effects for the short duration i take it. ill post stat increases. im just wanting to experiment this.

 

[dylangemelli]

well i basically bought the wrong amount of var and wasnt paying attention, so im just going to experiment w/ them. im still waiting on buying the mk as well. the var, if taken in reccom. doses would only last me about a week or 2. So, im just gonna try it out. yes, it is defeating the purpose in a way i see that but since its not really that good of an aas. and i have a small amount. it binds with the androgen rc. so maybe they will both sarms/var work together.

if it works and i see no side effects for the short duration i take it. ill post stat increases. im just wanting to experiment this.

bro, that makes absolutely no sense whatseover... what do you mean anavar is not really a good aas? what are you talking about? 2 weeks of it is basically taking your money and throwing it in the toilet... you have no clue what your saying bro... i want to help you but you need to change your way of thinking...

 

[jcnuts]

I'm curious why you would post this asking if you could run the little dose of Var with your SARMS but yet when everyone tells you its a terrible idea you say you're going to do it anyway. If you were going to do it anyway then why ask? These people know way more than you and you should take they're advice. I don't know much about SARMS but he'll even if I was running Test I still wouldn't only do 2wks of Anavar. What a waste.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

 

[Jbranken]

I agree with Dylan and Columbo. 2 weeks of anavar is an absolute waste. Your so called "experiement" will be crap. Guess why?? You don't even start seeing noticeable results from anavar until week 2! So right when you're getting to the good part of var, you run out of it. that makes no sense. Why cant you just order another 4 weeks worth? i think its because youre too impatient and dont want to wait. Take the advice given.