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Sprinting with Sarms stack....

NomadSpeed

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Hey fellas I hope everyones well.

Currently, looking over at putting a sarms stack together that would enhance endurance, recovery and strength as 200 & 400m sprinter. The key here is to not add on muscle mass but to develop more speed endurance. I going to include GW and SR-9009 definitely, was thinking of including one more maybe or two if needed.
S4 or Rad maybe.

Would love to hear some thoughts. Thank you.
 
NomadSpeed said:
Hey fellas I hope everyones well.

Currently, looking over at putting a sarms stack together that would enhance endurance, recovery and strength as 200 & 400m sprinter. The key here is to not add on muscle mass but to develop more speed endurance. I going to include GW and SR-9009 definitely, was thinking of including one more maybe or two if needed.
S4 or Rad maybe.

Would love to hear some thoughts. Thank you.
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@NomadSpeed welcome back to the Elitefitness.com big happy family! but where did you go please tell us?

before we talk about sarms stacks or enhanced endurance, which of course would be cardarine and stenabolic BUT more there if we talk more

can you please tell us why you didn't update your log?

Approved Log - My EQ Cardarine cycle Log (Insight)

Would appreciate some thoughts and insights on a potential stack to be run. A little insight I'm a track sprinter concentration in the 200m, so it's that combination of speed endurance being looked to enhance. Currently 179lbs , 5'10, body fat under 10. I have a tendency to put on dense muscle...
www.elitefitness.com www.elitefitness.com

you left us high and dry, we were waiting for you and I was subbed man, kept checking but you didn't update us
so are you planning to keep the log going? that would be respectful for all the iron brothers that followed you and tried to help
 
I would def use carderine and osterine. Both are great for high output endurance. I used to use that stack when I raced bikes. Keeps the lactic at bay allowing you to push harder.
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
@NomadSpeed welcome back to the Elitefitness.com big happy family! but where did you go please tell us?

before we talk about sarms stacks or enhanced endurance, which of course would be cardarine and stenabolic BUT more there if we talk more

can you please tell us why you didn't update your log?

Approved Log - My EQ Cardarine cycle Log (Insight)

Would appreciate some thoughts and insights on a potential stack to be run. A little insight I'm a track sprinter concentration in the 200m, so it's that combination of speed endurance being looked to enhance. Currently 179lbs , 5'10, body fat under 10. I have a tendency to put on dense muscle...
www.elitefitness.com www.elitefitness.com

you left us high and dry, we were waiting for you and I was subbed man, kept checking but you didn't update us
so are you planning to keep the log going? that would be respectful for all the iron brothers that followed you and tried to help
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Thanks for the concern on things, I appreciate it. The last log ended around early august due to shutting the season down a bit early in order to recover and prepare for a big preseason prep which I'm in now. I've had quite few months developing a base and now want to excel this next phase a bit , thus the new thread and program question here.
 
for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 10 mg doses 4-5 hours apart
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day
 
dylangemelli said:
for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 10 mg doses 4-5 hours apart
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day
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Thanks much for that layout Dylan! Was hoping you were going to jump on and give your wisdom on the subject! I definitely use umbrella labs. Question , Rad and S4 aren't they very much alike just one being stronger than the other? Curious as to what your thoughts are in including both in the program? Thank you for the help.
 
ostarine or rad is good
i like ostarine for recovery and rad for muscle
log it
 
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definitely love this one it's going to be a beauty
i don't like s4 cause of the vision issues
 
Run (no pun intended) GW, SR and maybe lgd or rad
i also run a log, we want to see what works and what doesn't
 
you want to be strong if you sprint so s23 is the strongest sarm
and then do GW. log it yes!
 
NomadSpeed said:
Thanks fellas. As soon as I get all my compounds in I will start a full log to follow!
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@NomadSpeed you dont need to wait for gear, you dieting and training now so post up some log updates on training

Approved Log - My EQ Cardarine cycle Log (Insight)

Would appreciate some thoughts and insights on a potential stack to be run. A little insight I'm a track sprinter concentration in the 200m, so it's that combination of speed endurance being looked to enhance. Currently 179lbs , 5'10, body fat under 10. I have a tendency to put on dense muscle...
www.elitefitness.com www.elitefitness.com
 
NomadSpeed said:
Thanks much for that layout Dylan! Was hoping you were going to jump on and give your wisdom on the subject! I definitely use umbrella labs. Question , Rad and S4 aren't they very much alike just one being stronger than the other? Curious as to what your thoughts are in including both in the program? Thank you for the help.
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no, they are definitely not alike at all... both are quite different... rad140 does it all and i mean everything, from strength, to size, to endurance, to vascularity.. its the absolute top selling sarm and its not even close.. s4 is one of the very best for strength and muscle hardening but also very good for endurance and has positive benefits on the prostate as well
 
Week 1 Log and Protocol...

After long reads and all your responses these are 4 I bought.

5'9
175lbs
9% body fat
wanting to drop at least 10lbs for race purposes and build a great speed endurance base

Here is a breakdown of what the whole picture looks like.
Current 1 week in with
GW- A.M. 10mgs/P.M. 10mgs
SR-9009 30mgs split morning , lunch and evening

Been go back and forth I what to add this week Rad of S4. I think both together would add to much size
on as body adds muscle quickly and that would be counter productive on the track. Which of the the two
do you think would be a solid counter part with the goal getting lighter and faster contractile strength?
I'm kinda leaning towards S4 but open here.

Training:
Mon -
Double day A.M. (Track session current phase is speed endurance so 4x300m.
Afternoon heavy weight session
Power cleans 3x4
Front Squat 4x6
Calve raises 3x20
Pogos (single leg holds 3x20sec)
Hip thrusts 3x10
Jumps squats 3x20
Step ups 3x5
Reactive step ups 3x5
Hamstring curls 3x10
Lateral quad ext 3x10
Banded hipflexor hold/runs
Ball tantrum runs

Tues- Long Run Reps
500m, rest 1min , 200m
300m, rest 1min , 200m
400m
3x200m rest 1min

Wed. - Recovery work

Thurs. -
Speed day/Weights
A.M.
Either overspeed on assisted machine or
3x150m, 120m, 90m


Hex bar DL 5x5
Hex bar banded 4x10sec
Box squats 1/4 heavy 4x4
Bar high knees 4x20
Leg press close 4x15
DB Bulgarian split lunges 3x8 each leg
Calve raises 4x20
Pogos 4x20
ISO holds 4x10 sec
Nordic’s 3x4
Rever ext 3x10
Push downs 3x20
Band push downs 3x10
Ab/Adductor 3x10
Ham curl 3x10
Leg ext 3x10
SL hip thrust bands 3x12
Box drop 3x4 each side
Box jump 3x4

Friday - Tempo Flush day
8x200m grass

Saturday -
Hills

Diet -
Taking in no less than 2,500-3,000 calories day
Protien - 170-180g
Carbs - 250-300g
Fats - 100g

Supplements -
Fish oil - 3,600mgs a day
Vitamin C - 3,000mgs a day
B-12
D-3 - 2,000
Chlorella - 24 tablets a day
Multi
Tudca - 1,000mgs
Milk thistle
NAC - 1200mgs
NMN - 1,000mgs
Transveratrol - 1,000mgs
 
NomadSpeed said:
Week 1 Log and Protocol...

After long reads and all your responses these are 4 I bought.

5'9
175lbs
9% body fat
wanting to drop at least 10lbs for race purposes and build a great speed endurance base

Here is a breakdown of what the whole picture looks like.
Current 1 week in with
GW- A.M. 10mgs/P.M. 10mgs
SR-9009 30mgs split morning , lunch and evening

Been go back and forth I what to add this week Rad of S4. I think both together would add to much size
on as body adds muscle quickly and that would be counter productive on the track. Which of the the two
do you think would be a solid counter part with the goal getting lighter and faster contractile strength?
I'm kinda leaning towards S4 but open here.

Training:
Mon -
Double day A.M. (Track session current phase is speed endurance so 4x300m.
Afternoon heavy weight session
Power cleans 3x4
Front Squat 4x6
Calve raises 3x20
Pogos (single leg holds 3x20sec)
Hip thrusts 3x10
Jumps squats 3x20
Step ups 3x5
Reactive step ups 3x5
Hamstring curls 3x10
Lateral quad ext 3x10
Banded hipflexor hold/runs
Ball tantrum runs

Tues- Long Run Reps
500m, rest 1min , 200m
300m, rest 1min , 200m
400m
3x200m rest 1min

Wed. - Recovery work

Thurs. -
Speed day/Weights
A.M.
Either overspeed on assisted machine or
3x150m, 120m, 90m


Hex bar DL 5x5
Hex bar banded 4x10sec
Box squats 1/4 heavy 4x4
Bar high knees 4x20
Leg press close 4x15
DB Bulgarian split lunges 3x8 each leg
Calve raises 4x20
Pogos 4x20
ISO holds 4x10 sec
Nordic’s 3x4
Rever ext 3x10
Push downs 3x20
Band push downs 3x10
Ab/Adductor 3x10
Ham curl 3x10
Leg ext 3x10
SL hip thrust bands 3x12
Box drop 3x4 each side
Box jump 3x4

Friday - Tempo Flush day
8x200m grass

Saturday -
Hills

Diet -
Taking in no less than 2,500-3,000 calories day
Protien - 170-180g
Carbs - 250-300g
Fats - 100g

Supplements -
Fish oil - 3,600mgs a day
Vitamin C - 3,000mgs a day
B-12
D-3 - 2,000
Chlorella - 24 tablets a day
Multi
Tudca - 1,000mgs
Milk thistle
NAC - 1200mgs
NMN - 1,000mgs
Transveratrol - 1,000mgs
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@NomadSpeed I would add testolone rad140 to the cycle not andarine s4 thats my view

i like your layout but can you start this layout, training diet in NEW log thread? we'd like to see your sarms push log again
more pics and training would be great

your last log was good but dropped off fast

Approved Log - My EQ Cardarine cycle Log (Insight)

Would appreciate some thoughts and insights on a potential stack to be run. A little insight I'm a track sprinter concentration in the 200m, so it's that combination of speed endurance being looked to enhance. Currently 179lbs , 5'10, body fat under 10. I have a tendency to put on dense muscle...
www.elitefitness.com www.elitefitness.com
 
the_alcatraz said:
@NomadSpeed I would add testolone rad140 to the cycle not andarine s4 thats my view

i like your layout but can you start this layout, training diet in NEW log thread? we'd like to see your sarms push log again
more pics and training would be great

your last log was good but dropped off fast

Approved Log - My EQ Cardarine cycle Log (Insight)

Would appreciate some thoughts and insights on a potential stack to be run. A little insight I'm a track sprinter concentration in the 200m, so it's that combination of speed endurance being looked to enhance. Currently 179lbs , 5'10, body fat under 10. I have a tendency to put on dense muscle...
www.elitefitness.com www.elitefitness.com
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Thanks for your insight. Why is that your pick of the two? Just like to hear peoples experiences or thought process here. Thank you.
 
NomadSpeed said:
Thanks for your insight. Why is that your pick of the two? Just like to hear peoples experiences or thought process here. Thank you.
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@NomadSpeed its hard to say man because I read your old log, seems tbol is better for you to start, 4 week kick tbol 4 week close anavar with n2guard in the mix for organ liver support

and can you tell me why you dropped off with the last log?

Approved Log - My EQ Cardarine cycle Log (Insight)

Would appreciate some thoughts and insights on a potential stack to be run. A little insight I'm a track sprinter concentration in the 200m, so it's that combination of speed endurance being looked to enhance. Currently 179lbs , 5'10, body fat under 10. I have a tendency to put on dense muscle...
www.elitefitness.com www.elitefitness.com
 
the_alcatraz said:
@NomadSpeed its hard to say man because I read your old log, seems tbol is better for you to start, 4 week kick tbol 4 week close anavar with n2guard in the mix for organ liver support

and can you tell me why you dropped off with the last log?

Approved Log - My EQ Cardarine cycle Log (Insight)

Would appreciate some thoughts and insights on a potential stack to be run. A little insight I'm a track sprinter concentration in the 200m, so it's that combination of speed endurance being looked to enhance. Currently 179lbs , 5'10, body fat under 10. I have a tendency to put on dense muscle...
www.elitefitness.com www.elitefitness.com
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The detection time on tbol is very long now with the new tests. About 12 months metabolites they can detect, so trying to go a bit cleaner here with sarms and less time and side effects.
 
NomadSpeed said:
The detection time on tbol is very long now with the new tests. About 12 months metabolites they can detect, so trying to go a bit cleaner here with sarms and less time and side effects.
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@NomadSpeed well anavar is also long detection and sarms they can detect a long time too, whos testing you? I dont get it
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
@NomadSpeed well anavar is also long detection and sarms they can detect a long time too, whos testing you? I dont get it
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Currently no one right now but as the season progresses and into championship races there are random tests. I'm not taking any AAS, only the sarms on the plate . The detection of these 3 , what do you think ? GW - 40days , SR - ? , Rad - 30days
 
NomadSpeed said:
Currently no one right now but as the season progresses and into championship races there are random tests. I'm not taking any AAS, only the sarms on the plate . The detection of these 3 , what do you think ? GW - 40days , SR - ? , Rad - 30days
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@NomadSpeed well all those are something you can pop for eve 3-6mo past
how about you do EPO? I see guys doing it and its like 4 hour lift
or base testosterone is easy its in and out, you can inject it ED and we can help you set up that log
 
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MUSTANG_18 said:
@NomadSpeed well all those are something you can pop for eve 3-6mo past
how about you do EPO? I see guys doing it and its like 4 hour lift
or base testosterone is easy its in and out, you can inject it ED and we can help you set up that log
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Yeah I've looking into EPO , don't know if I want to mess with it as I've heard mixed reviews and cautions on it. As for test, I started a week of prop at 150mgs and that was even to high as my estrogen spiked and blew up with water, so pulled it immediately. Also m made me feel like crap.
 
NomadSpeed said:
Week 1 Log and Protocol...

After long reads and all your responses these are 4 I bought.

5'9
175lbs
9% body fat
wanting to drop at least 10lbs for race purposes and build a great speed endurance base

Here is a breakdown of what the whole picture looks like.
Current 1 week in with
GW- A.M. 10mgs/P.M. 10mgs
SR-9009 30mgs split morning , lunch and evening

Been go back and forth I what to add this week Rad of S4. I think both together would add to much size
on as body adds muscle quickly and that would be counter productive on the track. Which of the the two
do you think would be a solid counter part with the goal getting lighter and faster contractile strength?
I'm kinda leaning towards S4 but open here.

Training:
Mon -
Double day A.M. (Track session current phase is speed endurance so 4x300m.
Afternoon heavy weight session
Power cleans 3x4
Front Squat 4x6
Calve raises 3x20
Pogos (single leg holds 3x20sec)
Hip thrusts 3x10
Jumps squats 3x20
Step ups 3x5
Reactive step ups 3x5
Hamstring curls 3x10
Lateral quad ext 3x10
Banded hipflexor hold/runs
Ball tantrum runs

Tues- Long Run Reps
500m, rest 1min , 200m
300m, rest 1min , 200m
400m
3x200m rest 1min

Wed. - Recovery work

Thurs. -
Speed day/Weights
A.M.
Either overspeed on assisted machine or
3x150m, 120m, 90m


Hex bar DL 5x5
Hex bar banded 4x10sec
Box squats 1/4 heavy 4x4
Bar high knees 4x20
Leg press close 4x15
DB Bulgarian split lunges 3x8 each leg
Calve raises 4x20
Pogos 4x20
ISO holds 4x10 sec
Nordic’s 3x4
Rever ext 3x10
Push downs 3x20
Band push downs 3x10
Ab/Adductor 3x10
Ham curl 3x10
Leg ext 3x10
SL hip thrust bands 3x12
Box drop 3x4 each side
Box jump 3x4

Friday - Tempo Flush day
8x200m grass

Saturday -
Hills

Diet -
Taking in no less than 2,500-3,000 calories day
Protien - 170-180g
Carbs - 250-300g
Fats - 100g

Supplements -
Fish oil - 3,600mgs a day
Vitamin C - 3,000mgs a day
B-12
D-3 - 2,000
Chlorella - 24 tablets a day
Multi
Tudca - 1,000mgs
Milk thistle
NAC - 1200mgs
NMN - 1,000mgs
Transveratrol - 1,000mgs
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Upate here...... Today I included Rad-140 in the mix with GW and SR. Training on the track went really well and felt super strong being able increase output on each rep. Had the same workout last Monday and todays was 2secs faster through the sets. 4x300m.
Layout was
SR 9009 - 10mgs first thing in the morning empty stomach
Before training
GW - 10mgs
Rad - 5mgs

Does anyone have accurate data on clearance times pertaining to these three compounds. I've read 40days for GW, SR nothing really, Rad 8-30days.

Maybe @dylangemelli would know? Thank you!
 
NomadSpeed said:
Upate here...... Today I included Rad-140 in the mix with GW and SR. Training on the track went really well and felt super strong being able increase output on each rep. Had the same workout last Monday and todays was 2secs faster through the sets. 4x300m.
Layout was
SR 9009 - 10mgs first thing in the morning empty stomach
Before training
GW - 10mgs
Rad - 5mgs

Does anyone have accurate data on clearance times pertaining to these three compounds. I've read 40days for GW, SR nothing really, Rad 8-30days.

Maybe @dylangemelli would know? Thank you!
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@NomadSpeed You can guess 30 days but that's guessing, I would plan longer like 60 days.
 
NomadSpeed said:
Upate here...... Today I included Rad-140 in the mix with GW and SR. Training on the track went really well and felt super strong being able increase output on each rep. Had the same workout last Monday and todays was 2secs faster through the sets. 4x300m.
Layout was
SR 9009 - 10mgs first thing in the morning empty stomach
Before training
GW - 10mgs
Rad - 5mgs

Does anyone have accurate data on clearance times pertaining to these three compounds. I've read 40days for GW, SR nothing really, Rad 8-30days.

Maybe @dylangemelli would know? Thank you!
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Here's question for you guys. I've heard of some running clomid coinciding with their sarm cycle to mitigate any suppression. What are your thoughts on that approach?
 
dylangemelli said:
no, they are definitely not alike at all... both are quite different... rad140 does it all and i mean everything, from strength, to size, to endurance, to vascularity.. its the absolute top selling sarm and its not even close.. s4 is one of the very best for strength and muscle hardening but also very good for endurance and has positive benefits on the prostate as well
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