Spicy Nips Mid Cycle

[angrygnome]

Hey Bros,

Looking for some collective opinions here while i'm waiting on mid cycle bloodwork results, generally takes 4 days to receive all results here.

Currently on week 7 of:

Test C 150mg weekly
Test P 550mg weekly
Primo 350mg weekly
Npp 350mg weekly
Hgh 4iu daily
Proviron 50mg daily
Aromasin 12.5mg daily

Around week 4 started getting sensitive/painful nipples and a bit of Deca dick so I switched from Aromasin 12.5 eod to daily. Nips and DD persisted so I added in 20mg of Nolvadex for the last 13 days with not much noticeable improvement. No lumps or gyno present.

Opinion wise, do you think it would be more beneficial to up Aromasin to 25mg daily or swap out for Arimidex? Or just continue waiting til results get back monday and try not to throat punch people every time the wind blows across my shirt.

 

[dylangemelli]

wait until you get your results back... make sure you have tested both prolactin and estradiol and then post the results when you get them... you dont have any lumps or gyno present so you dont want to over do it... i would drop the nolva... you have both proviron and aromasin going for you so you should be in control... another thing you should consider is that you are running way too much test... 700 mg is another thing causing you the issue... completely unnecessary bro... no need to go over 500 mg there...

 

[stevesmi]

let's see what the bloods say but this is an estrogenic issue, has nothing to do with prolactin

 

[JasonPriest]

its possible your primo is fake too. where did you get it?

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hey Bros,

Looking for some collective opinions here while i'm waiting on mid cycle bloodwork results, generally takes 4 days to receive all results here.

Currently on week 7 of:

Test C 150mg weekly
Test P 550mg weekly
Primo 350mg weekly
Npp 350mg weekly
Hgh 4iu daily
Proviron 50mg daily
Aromasin 12.5mg daily

Around week 4 started getting sensitive/painful nipples and a bit of Deca dick so I switched from Aromasin 12.5 eod to daily. Nips and DD persisted so I added in 20mg of Nolvadex for the last 13 days with not much noticeable improvement. No lumps or gyno present.

Opinion wise, do you think it would be more beneficial to up Aromasin to 25mg daily or swap out for Arimidex? Or just continue waiting til results get back monday and try not to throat punch people every time the wind blows across my shirt.

I would wait for blood work before you make any changes with aromasin

you're on 700mgs of testosterone so unless you have super genetics you're going to have estrogenic side effects

with high Test doses i found 25mgs ED of aromasin needed but I wouldnt do it until you get bloods

what would be good is if you post up your blood work in 4 days here we can analyze it together and see where you are and what to do

fyi it could also be prolactin related AND could be your liver kidney values causing estrogen blow back with progesterone, ALT/AST creatinine etc
are you using organ/liver/kidney/heart support?

 

[ballin2504]

The guys have you covered

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro if yo grow boobs then yo know it caused by the high test

 

[ceo]

bros i would wait for blood work but 700mgs of testosterone with NPP thats over a gram so you'll need ED AIs but consider splitting AI dose and test dose into 2-3 doses per day and test 5 doses/week

 

[ROIDDERS]

Blood work of course but honestly with your doses you probably need dostinex too and n2guard

like this
25mgs aromasin ED
7 caps n2guard ed (organ liver support)
0.25mgs dostinex/week
20mgs cardarine/week (anti cortisol/progesterone)

 

[Quadsweep]

Like the guys said wait for blood work but with high doses you Absolutely need organ/liver support, use n2guard 7-10 capsules per day or you'll have worst sides than estrogen.

 

[Ulter]

Yea, bloods post them here on EF we'll check
but even with that if you arent using n2guard for organ support you're going to mess up your liver and kidney and heart
i do regular 1000mgs of testosterone on cycles and 10 caps of n2guard my bloods are perfect

 

[e2]

Bloods and more bloods, post them here on Elitefitness
but organ support and prolacin support is going to be a must

 

[2Thick]

Post your blood work before you make changes

I do agre with guys
anti prolactin
organ support
and dosage frequency
are your main issues

 

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[angrygnome]

Thanks for the replies. I will wait for results before changing anything. Of course Estradiol is always the last result to come back for some reason.

I've run 500 test on the last two runs and been fine. Thought I would try 700 this round as many people have stated that is where things really start to shine, and comparing spreadsheets from the previous two runs to this one I agree.

Adding npp to this round has been great for the appetite, I can eat about everything.

I do run N2guard, 7caps a day. I don't usually list out vitamins and supps. I pin daily, the math is easier to keep track of since it is always the same. All gear is Dragon or Geneza from Naps.

I have plenty of Caber on hand for Prolactin if that is the issue.

 

[SteveMobsterG]

What's your body-fat like on that cycle?

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Blood work is a must and add N2Guard immediately

 

[RoySimpson]

Gotta get bloodwork for sure!

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Your bloodwork will give you a clear picture of what you should do next.......

 

[RickV]

Hey Bros,

Looking for some collective opinions here while i'm waiting on mid cycle bloodwork results, generally takes 4 days to receive all results here.

Currently on week 7 of:

Test C 150mg weekly
Test P 550mg weekly
Primo 350mg weekly
Npp 350mg weekly
Hgh 4iu daily
Proviron 50mg daily
Aromasin 12.5mg daily

Around week 4 started getting sensitive/painful nipples and a bit of Deca dick so I switched from Aromasin 12.5 eod to daily. Nips and DD persisted so I added in 20mg of Nolvadex for the last 13 days with not much noticeable improvement. No lumps or gyno present.

Opinion wise, do you think it would be more beneficial to up Aromasin to 25mg daily or swap out for Arimidex? Or just continue waiting til results get back monday and try not to throat punch people every time the wind blows across my shirt.

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[MasonicBodybuilder]

Definitely wait for the blood work. That will show you if the aromasin is effective or potentially your primo is fake and you are actually running a gram of test.

 

[angrygnome]

Still waiting on the Estradiol, but holy shitballs I was not expecting these numbers.
For reference, october numbers were from 500 test c weekly and about what I would figure with total test at roughly 3x dosage.

700 test, 350npp, Primo 350 puts me at 5300 with free test at 2547??? That does not seem right to me. It certainly wasn't what I expected or planned on with my ai dose. With these numbers i'm figuring Estradiol is probably well over 100. I should know by monday, E is always the last result to post.


Am I wrong or does something seem way off? I know fake Primo was mentioned, I would be kinda pissed at Naps if that's the deal. Would also explain why adding 100mg a week to my Trt dose really effs lipids up.


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[dylangemelli]

Total test is 5-7 times the dose… normally closer to 7 times


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