Some musings of mine - Athiests answer me this, cell division

[Frackal]

Quick background, the process of cellular maturation and division, (mitosis, meiosis, etc) is an extremely complicated yet linear set of processes that seems to resemble the way a computer functions, with 'switches' ... or checkpoints.. for example, during anaphase, the seperation of the 2 sister choromosones (chromatids), a chemical checkpoint ensures that all the chromosones are properly attached to the spindle before dividing.... A signal from the (kinetechores) of chromosones that have not yet properly attached themselves to the spindle deactivates the protein complex that initiates the division...


What is the point? Well, cells are not intelligent entities, they are basically little automated factories that respond only as programmed...yet there is some force that drives these millions of little cells to form an extremely complex organism that for all intents and purposes functions beautifully, all based on this chemical programming which has its roots in DNA...

Now a computer, which is similar to a cell, cannot program itself because it is nothing more than an organism that reacts ... it cannot act ... or can it?

Athiests, what is the force behind this phenomenon? Everyone argues about whether evolution took place or not, I think it is clear that it has...but no one asks WHY

-Why do cells evolve at all? What made cells evolve, what made or microscopic ancestors come out of the oceans onto the land?


....... ? .......

 

[aalox]

That question should be directed toward cellular and molecular biologists, not towards atheists.

 

[Frackal]

No - I am not asking about the intricacies of cellular division, I am asking a philosophical question about one incidence in nature that seems to be something beautifully designed by an intelligence of some sort

 

[fogg88]

Just out of curiosity, are you going through first-semester general bio right now?

 

[Testosterone boy]

I would guess that mutations occur periodically. Some are a success and reproduce until a "new" life form takes place that is significantly different than its cellular ancestor. Being able to exist out of water would be a successful adaptation because it allows a life form to escape from the ever present predators. Eventually the new form evolved to live entirely on land. Unfortunately however (for them), it is apparent that several "predator" life forms were also able to adapt to a terrestial life.

 

[aalox]

In your original post, you asked about a certain force in relation to this phenomenon, and since forces are studed in all of the physical sciences as well as engineering, I thought that a scientist would be best qualified to answer the question. If this is a philosophical question, then it is to be answered by experts in metaphysics, some of whom are atheists and some are not.
Is this really a philosophical qestion rather than a scientific one? If there is something about the physical world that is mysterious then it is the job of the scientists to discover the cause-and-effect relationships in what we observe. There are many gaps in our understanding of our natural history, but to sit back and chalk it up to the "God of the Gaps" is to give up on this rational mode of inquiry and, frankly, to surrender to ignorance.

 

[Charvelle]

I am asking a philosophical question about one incidence in nature that seems to be something beautifully designed by an intelligence of some sort

You just answered the question yourself. We are the original test tube babies, genetic constructs, created by a vastly superior being. Go search and read on Zecharia Sitchin, it will expand your
horizons, big time.

 

[Nathan]

It's logical is why. Humans came up with the idea of a computer based on what they have learned about life in general and the science inherent in it. Man, I'm high as hell and can't remember what I was talking about...I just spent like 1 minute trying to remember what I was talking about but now I realize I wrote all this down so I can just look back up the page and find out what I said...that rules.

 

[Manu]

I think all this is highly insurmountable...

 

[Nathan]

I think all this is highly insurmountable...

LMAO. I'm giggling like a school girl right now.