Forget the juice man.. When you train natural you earn the muscle and strength that you worked so hard for, when you take steroids your basically getting artificial muscle and strength, whats the point of that? Steroids makes everything so much easier, that even if you dont work hard or push yourself you'll still build muscle, you body will be in an anabolic state 24/7, so all the food and protein that you consume will go straight to your muscle cell.. Anyway, forget the juice and stay natural untill you reach you genetic potential where you no longer can make progress..