So, will NPP shut you down as hard as DECA?

[terrapin]

Been reading up on NPP - seems a much better choice then deca. But I am not clear on wether it shuts you down as hard as deca. I know it dosen't stay in the system as long, so it is easier to recover, but since its basically the same active compound doesn't shut you down as hard? In other words, is it better than deca only because it doesn't stay active for as long? Thanks for the input. I was thinking of using it in Jan for a 8 week cycle with Turinabol. Peace

 

[mikebzt]

I would like to know this also

 

[terrapin]

bump for some answers

 

[gregory]

Well technically speaking it should be easier to recover from, but you won't know that till you try it. So everything that will be said on this thread will be specualtion and personal experiences. Deca is not bad for everyone, but for some it is and the only way they (including myself) found out is by trying.

BTW: I stay away from all nondrolone products. They reak havoc on my hpta. Deca took me almost 18 months to recover from. What a cluster fuck that was.

 

[JAYMAN014]

Npp is said to have a better recovery, Much sorter lasting ester, and the part that isn't speculation or personal experience is that the shorter the cycle the better recovery and you can in most cases obtain the same results in 6 weeks of NPP as 10-12 weeks of DECA, FASTER RECOVERY, Add some Cabaser and you are free and clear to a fast recovery.IMO I LOVE NPP I'm in week 3 of 6 weeks cycle and up almost 15pds with no water weight. Muscle are full though so would guess on about 8 pds lean muscle mass.

 

[gregory]

The recovery issue from deca does not only have to do with the Deconate ester, but the progesterone based nondrolone substance itself. Test with a deconate ester is not hard to recover from and does not give the nastry sides during and after use that some nondrolone users experience.

 

[Lanceromance1]

Just a different ester. I can't see where there would be any recovery differences.
GREGORY- You took my location.

 

[Ulter]

You will not recover as fast as you would from test but yes you will recover faster than from deca. About 2 weeks faster.

 

[gregory]

Oh well 2 weeks faster, cool. So instead of suffering for 18 months i would have only suffered for 17.5, cool.

Sorry for the sarcastic tone, as no sarcasm is intended i'm just making fun of my situation.

 

[The Greatest]

in theory dosinex should be helpfully as well.

 

[gregory]

it would help but still the supression is there.

 

[Ulter]

If you don't want to be shut down for an extended period then just use test in the cycle and stop the nandrolone a week before the test. If you do a cycle with no test then all the systems you have that depend on test go without. So when you try to recover you've got a lot of demand for the test your body is trying to make on it's own. If you use test in your cycle, even 200mg, those systems don't have to go without and your recovery is much smoother.

 

[test-monkey]

If you don't want to be shut down for an extended period then just use test in the cycle and stop the nandrolone a week before the test. If you do a cycle with no test then all the systems you have that depend on test go without. So when you try to recover you've got a lot of demand for the test your body is trying to make on it's own. If you use test in your cycle, even 200mg, those systems don't have to go without and your recovery is much smoother.

could proviron do the same as test in a cycle for smoother recovery?

 

[Ulter]

no

 

[psychedout]

could proviron do the same as test in a cycle for smoother recovery?

IMO, too many conflicting studies about proviron and whether it it or isn't HPTA suppressive exist.

I would stay away from it PCT.

 

[terrapin]

Thanlks for all the replies....I was shut down quite hard on deca, not really my levels so much as just months being lethargic and just not myself, but I loved being on it. I was hoping NPP would be better, but maybe, at this stage, I should just stay away. The problem with adding test Ulter is that I already had gyno once and I am very sensitive to any compound that might bring it back. Thats one of the reasons I stick to var/primo/winny - mostly for good solid lean muscle mass. But I want to steer clear of the 17aas for a while, so I was looking for another compound. Thanks again for all the replies.

 

[gregory]

Thanlks for all the replies....I was shut down quite hard on deca, not really my levels so much as just months being lethargic and just not myself, but I loved being on it. I was hoping NPP would be better, but maybe, at this stage, I should just stay away. The problem with adding test Ulter is that I already had gyno once and I am very sensitive to any compound that might bring it back. Thats one of the reasons I stick to var/primo/winny - mostly for good solid lean muscle mass. But I want to steer clear of the 17aas for a while, so I was looking for another compound. Thanks again for all the replies.

Stack a test cycle with arimidex @ .5mg EOD. And stagger it with 10-20mg nolva on the days you don't take Arimidex. That will effectively neutralise just about all water retention/estrogen buildup in the blood stream and the receptors themselves.