So people are still feeling like shit on clomid/nolvadex during PCT....

[John McLane]

I keep reading these stories, yet when I suggest HCGenerate whilst on, and Unleashed or a similar test booster I get shouted down, told those product's are shit and that the reason they feel almost suicidal is because they are surpressed, but I will say it once again - I have NEVER felt "good" on clomid/nolvadex, whereas when using HCGenerate etc my PCT is soooo much better...yet I get told on various boards it's "placebo"....ah well leave em too it.....

 

[bonacris]

I keep reading these stories, yet when I suggest HCGenerate whilst on, and Unleashed or a similar test booster I get shouted down, told those product's are shit and that the reason they feel almost suicidal is because they are surpressed, but I will say it once again - I have NEVER felt "good" on clomid/nolvadex, whereas when using HCGenerate etc my PCT is soooo much better...yet I get told on various boards it's "placebo"....ah well leave em too it.....

I have the same problem with my friend.. I told him and he never heard of them so he won't use them.. but he's a moron. He thinks that nolva increase estrogen so the body will counteract by increasing test so that's how he thinks he recovers.. I think he's borderline retarded

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[John McLane]

I have the same problem with my friend.. I told him and he never heard of them so he won't use them.. but he's a moron. He thinks that nolva increase estrogen so the body will counteract by increasing test so that's how he thinks he recovers.. I think he's borderline retarded

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Everyone who tells me hcgenerate is shit have NEVER used it

 

[buddhabuilder]

We have the opportunity to learn about some great supps to enhance our cycles here at EF. But it is when we take these products as directed by more experienced people that we can gain the wisdom to know they work. HCGenerate sets us up for an easier PCT. Unleashed/Post Cycle enhance recovery from even the strongest cycles. Clomid is just a part of a good PCT, and when used at the recomended 25/25/25/25 dose, the sides are kept to a minimum. I'll go out on a limb and say, I bet anybody slagging off N2BM and mrsupps products has never used them correctly.

 

[Elrock]

Everyone who tells me hcgenerate is shit have NEVER used it

True that!!!

 

[John McLane]

Leave em to it, up to them if they want to flood their body with more chemicals after a course!

 

[stevesmi]

its better to run nothing than to run nolva for pct or a large dose of clomid.

i only run 25mg or less ED/EOD of clomid as part of a rigid pct.

as you said if you feel like blah during pct then its kinda hard to get motivated to go workout which defeats the purpose, hence why the guys who push nolva/clomid are typically on HRT.. cause they gave up a long time ago and who can blame them.

i will say this its very important to cycle off of steroids to give the body a break and then the next cycle you can take things to the next step.. trust me this is the best way to run steroids. if you choose the right pct you can cycle for years to come and really enjoy this lifestyle.

 

[John McLane]

its better to run nothing than to run nolva for pct or a large dose of clomid.

i only run 25mg or less ED/EOD of clomid as part of a rigid pct.

as you said if you feel like blah during pct then its kinda hard to get motivated to go workout which defeats the purpose, hence why the guys who push nolva/clomid are typically on HRT.. cause they gave up a long time ago and who can blame them.

i will say this its very important to cycle off of steroids to give the body a break and then the next cycle you can take things to the next step.. trust me this is the best way to run steroids. if you choose the right pct you can cycle for years to come and really enjoy this lifestyle.

Exactly.....