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So about this cardiobreeze stuff....

kethnaab

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0430 (that 4:30 AM for you non-military folk) - alarm rings. I punch it, pop 2 cardiobreeze, take a leak, go back to sleep

0439 - alarm rings (Fucking snooze...) - I punch it, stumble to my feet, grab my water and MP3 player and stumble off to the gym.

0455 - standing outside the gym door, impatiently twitching

0500 - start the Stepmill. Normally I do 5 minute warmup, then 20 minutes of HIIT at 6/15 (levels) for 30/60 (seconds) on manual

0505 - warmup over, begin doing 6/15 for 30/60

0515 - get bored with that, kick it up to 8/18 for 40/80

0520 - up to 10/19

0525 - still going *cues the energizer bunny*, I notice in the mirror people are looking at me funny as I'm practically running "up the stairs"

0530 - finally slow down and do a 5-minute cool down

never "felt" a kickin. It was a slow acceleration and when it came time to hit it, it was like I was floating

so, bottom line - that is some good shit. and this is coming from a dude who has been on ephedrine or TRex for every damn day for the last 4 months

only issue i got was some mini-burps that tasted like bleh.
 
so you are taking sesapure and cardiobreeze together? i've ignored a lot of posts on the sesapure/cardiobreeze stuff, but i got to order some glucorell r today and i think i might try something else with it
 
I take sesa and gluco ALWAYS.

if the meal has carbs, I take gluco. if the meal is higher than 300 kcal or has more than about 10g fat, I take sesa.

take 3 sesa and 3 gluco and go to burger king. get a double whopper with cheese and a large order of fries. drink water instead of coke

1 hour later, your body will heat up like mad. it's hysterical. that's the sesa doing it's "thing"
 
Adding simple carbs to the Sesapure, Thermorexin, or Cardio Breeze is throwing gas on the fat burning fire. Your body will crank heat like a nuke.

Cardio Breeze is an overlooked product on the AS board. The women found it last year and buy it like crazy because they do morning cardio all the time. Raina (she's even got it in her signature), Bunny, Jenscat, Sassy, etc, use it all the time. I HAVE to use it or I can't make it to the end of my cardio session without slowing down. Like kethnaab said, you blow through cardio sessions like you're on auto pilot.
 
Ulter said:
Cardio Breeze is an overlooked product on the AS board. The women found it last year and buy it like crazy because they do morning cardio all the time. ............... Like kethnaab said, you blow through cardio sessions like you're on auto pilot.
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does it temporarily increase actual aerobic capacity, or just give an energy boost like ephedrine/caffeine would?
 
Ulter said:
Adding simple carbs to the Sesapure, Thermorexin, or Cardio Breeze is throwing gas on the fat burning fire. Your body will crank heat like a nuke.

Cardio Breeze is an overlooked product on the AS board. The women found it last year and buy it like crazy because they do morning cardio all the time. Raina (she's even got it in her signature), Bunny, Jenscat, Sassy, etc, use it all the time. I HAVE to use it or I can't make it to the end of my cardio session without slowing down. Like kethnaab said, you blow through cardio sessions like you're on auto pilot.
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THAT GOOD???? For Real? Any conflicts with GH or AS?
 
Ulter said:
Adding simple carbs to the Sesapure, Thermorexin, or Cardio Breeze is throwing gas on the fat burning fire. Your body will crank heat like a nuke.

Cardio Breeze is an overlooked product on the AS board. The women found it last year and buy it like crazy because they do morning cardio all the time. Raina (she's even got it in her signature), Bunny, Jenscat, Sassy, etc, use it all the time. I HAVE to use it or I can't make it to the end of my cardio session without slowing down. Like kethnaab said, you blow through cardio sessions like you're on auto pilot.
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PATHETIC!!!!!

jk bro, I'm gonna get some too
 
see, it's weird.

I felt NOTHING. I am used to feeling the "kick in" from EC or at least from TRex.

Nothing. You feel nothing. you just do stuff at an increased rate. One of my coworkers asked me today WTF was wrong, why the hell was I zipping all over the place?

I chuckled and said 'dunno, didn't realize I was'.

This is 8 hours after taking the stuff, and I'm still in 5th gear. At no time have I felt the typical CNS stim/rapid-heavy heart like I get from the other stuff.

This is some good shit. and unfortunately, it may end up being YET ANOTHER goddamned money pit for me.

I should just make an allotment out to AF. They take 1/4 my paycheck as it is each month...
 
the "kick" from thermorexin comes from the yohimbine and synephrine (which do excite the CNS). Cardio breeze works downstream of the adrenergic receptors, hence you get the "energy and body stimulus" without the CNS activation.
 
wow

goddamn. it's now 2014, and I am finally starting to get tired.

*starts counting on fingers*
*removes socks, starts counting on toes*

almost 14 hours later....yeah, CB is a keeper.
 
guess im gonna have to check this out when I decide to cut back down. I was just going to go with a Clen/T3 stack along with StimulantX and YES...

Might have to just throw some CB in there too! :chomp:
 
All this talk of these AF products is getting me itchy to get some. Keep hearing nothing but good things..Can't wait to get mine!
 
AF store + AG Store = a gift from the man upstairs.

Will cardio breeze work the same at any point in the day or is this designed for early mourning. I usualy hit the cardio towards night, but this product has gotten my interest.
 
The Iotola said:
AF store + AG Store = a gift from the man upstairs.

Will cardio breeze work the same at any point in the day or is this designed for early mourning. I usualy hit the cardio towards night, but this product has gotten my interest.
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can be used at any time (though it does contain stimulants so late night use can, but neccesarily will, interrupt sleep). It can be used throughout the day as well for a "boost".
 
macrophage69alpha said:
can be used at any time (though it does contain stimulants so late night use can, but neccesarily will, interrupt sleep). It can be used throughout the day as well for a "boost".
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thx macro, would it be overkill on the body to stack this with T-rex and YES?
 
The Iotola said:
thx macro, would it be overkill on the body to stack this with T-rex and YES?
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could be, a bit, though people do.

several variations:

some take CB in the AM and thermorexin in the afternoon, evening (AM empty stomach cardio)

some take 1-2CB with 1 trex or vice versa (for an extra kick)
 
well, CB sure as hell works with clen

zoomed through an hour of cardio this morning on the stepmill, level 10. just kinda zipping along.
didn't realize how hard that was until I was done. No cramping, no tiredness, no shortness of breath

i swear, i'm going to have to start taking out loans to keep up with AF's shit. *Scowl*
 
kethnaab said:
well, CB sure as hell works with clen

zoomed through an hour of cardio this morning on the stepmill, level 10. just kinda zipping along.
didn't realize how hard that was until I was done. No cramping, no tiredness, no shortness of breath

i swear, i'm going to have to start taking out loans to keep up with AF's shit. *Scowl*
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so is it only good if you do cardio in the morning
 
depends on what you mean by "good"

it is a stimulant, so it might keep you up if you take it at 4PM

I haven't tried taking it past 2 PM, but I was fine by 10PM. It seems to last about 8-10 hours for me.
 
kethnaab said:
depends on what you mean by "good"

it is a stimulant, so it might keep you up if you take it at 4PM

I haven't tried taking it past 2 PM, but I was fine by 10PM. It seems to last about 8-10 hours for me.
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What does it do for your appetite?
 
mayb1day said:
I Am 6'4 310lbs Not In Shape At All...will This Help Me Get Through The Dread?
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NO. DO NOT TAKE IT. You need to get into some shape before you start taking anything. This is the reason that they banned ephedrine...a bunch of out of shape people thought it was a majic pill and are now dead...it ruined it for the rest of us.

STAY AWAY FROM IT!!
 
big e 75 said:
This is the reason that they banned ephedrine...a bunch of out of shape people thought it was a majic pill and are now dead
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this is just incorrect. Repeating it, just gives credence to the false claims behind the banning of ephedrine/ephedra (which was overturned because the FDA was unable to provide ANY evidence to back up their actions).
 
macrophage69alpha said:
both. though without jacking up the CNS (as you would get with ephedrine)
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Are you saying it doesnt effect your CNS or it doesnt over stimulate your CNS like ephedra/ephedrine?
 
i gotta get this shit! now i have to start rationing my sesapure caps
 
well , either you guys are some really good salesmen or this stuff is really kick ass. when I look at the ingredients, I dont see how these products can be different from "other" fat burning supplements. And there are also different types of the sesamin products. but i can say that reading these posts make me want to put an order in right away, which i believe I will give it a try.


can you take cardio breeze and thermorexin together or have to be seperate?
 
GymIntensity said:
well , either you guys are some really good salesmen or this stuff is really kick ass. when I look at the ingredients, I dont see how these products can be different from "other" fat burning supplements. And there are also different types of the sesamin products. but i can say that reading these posts make me want to put an order in right away, which i believe I will give it a try.


can you take cardio breeze and thermorexin together or have to be seperate?
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You can take them together, and they work very well in conjunction with eachother (along with Glucorell-R)

I advise you to stack them, unless you are using Clen, then drop the T-rex when on Clen.
 
Are these products the right ones to take for MASS BUILDING AND TO CUTS
#1STACK EQUIPOISON DEKKA DIANOBOL
#2 STACK FINAPLEX PARABOL DIANOBOL
#3 STACK FINAPLEX DIANOBOL WINSTRAL
 
Christofer said:
Are these products the right ones to take for MASS BUILDING AND TO CUTS
#1STACK EQUIPOISON DEKKA DIANOBOL
#2 STACK FINAPLEX PARABOL DIANOBOL
#3 STACK FINAPLEX DIANOBOL WINSTRAL
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You need to do some reading in the 'sticky section' before posting this nonsensical statement on an unrelated thread.
Equipoison is good stuff, however. :heart:
 
Ulter:

1) Aplify 02 seems to kill my cardio. any ideas?
2) Cardio is normal on trex
3) Will i get the same energy for lifting with CB as i do with Trex?
4) The time frame for CB is longer/shorter/same as Trex?

thanks bro
 
Ulter said:
Yes you can get the same energy from CB as Thermorexin.

It's the same duration as Thermorexin. The biggest difference is in the appetite surpression. It's higher in Thermorexin.
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agree, though the yohimbine and synephrine in thermorexin may give a stronger short term CNS stimulus (varies). (when it comes to cardio performance, duration and energy they are very comparable)
 
macrophage69alpha said:
this is just incorrect. Repeating it, just gives credence to the false claims behind the banning of ephedrine/ephedra (which was overturned because the FDA was unable to provide ANY evidence to back up their actions).
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Not exactly. The ban was temporarily lifted but will be back in place soon. The court temp lifted the injunction and put the burden of a perm lift on the makers of EPH to come forward to "prove" that their product was safe. Needless to say, none of the manufacturers have come forward. Notice that no companies have started making the stuff again...trust me, without disclosing my profession, I know what I am talking about. As for the FDA ban, it was most certainly due to a few "unexplained" deaths in young males due to unexplained cardiac arrest. Unfortunatly for everyone, the FDA is driven by public policy especially when it comes to so-called herbal remedies. They just don't know what to do with them. If you remember (don't know how old you are), a product called Hot Stuff was banned a few years back for the same reason. The problem with people is that they think if one works, ten works much better...more is not better. The ban on Hot Stuff and EPH was mostly due to the unexplained deaths and the media attention that came from it. Now that Baseball has managed to get the full attention of the media, AAS are next...it sucks but it's true.
 
big e 75 said:
Notice that no companies have started making the stuff again...
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this is also not accurate, a number of companies have started making ephedra based products. Though many of the larger ones have not because of insurance issues (and the potential that it could go the other way again).

having actually read the ruling the finding was that the FDA had the burden of proof, which was not met, with respect to the 10mg dosage spec.

Hot stuff was not banned it was pulled temporarily because it was spiked with dianabol.
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
huh do you guys think this would help with wrestling...where it is short burst of energy...followed by a little rest then more short bursts.
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yes. a lot of guys use it for MMA (which is mostly grappling).
 
I just ordered some CB for my gf. Im currently taking Trex and LREX (plus seas and gluc).

I had some clen which I also threw in the mix... but I just read here that I should drop the clen while taking TRex...

Should I do so right away? I havent had any major complications on 60mcg of Clen (day 5).

when the CB gets here, can I add it to the Trex, Lrex combo? would the clen at this point be down right over kill... or .. uh... kill me?
 
clen + t-rex is a matter of preference (some people like it, especially because of the clen related lethargy.


Its highly reccomended that you take levorex or at the very least ALCAR with clenbuterol for its cardioprotective effects.
 
Ulter said:
Adding simple carbs to the Sesapure, Thermorexin, or Cardio Breeze is throwing gas on the fat burning fire. Your body will crank heat like a nuke.
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Yep. I had about 10 corn chips last week with a meal that I had taken 2 Trex prior. I was walking around saying, "Flame On" like I was a member of the Fantastic 4 about to burst into flames. :P

For those of you that are taking Trex and CB, how do you take these through the day?
I take 3 doses of 2 caps of Trex spread evenly throughout the day. Are you guys taking 2 caps of CB along with your first dose of Trex? Taking it at a different time during the day? Only taking it before cardio? And if so, again, are you taking a dose of Trex before cardio as well?
Thanks!
 
Roofus said:
For those of you that are taking Trex and CB, how do you take these through the day?
I take 3 doses of 2 caps of Trex spread evenly throughout the day. Are you guys taking 2 caps of CB along with your first dose of Trex? Taking it at a different time during the day? Only taking it before cardio? And if so, again, are you taking a dose of Trex before cardio as well?
Thanks!
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bump for user answers


(6 per day. usually 2 at a time- dont mix and match- though some really like this)
 
macrophage69alpha said:
bump for user answers


(6 per day. usually 2 at a time- dont mix and match- though some really like this)
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So you are suggesting to not take CB and Trex at the same time or not to take the dose at the same time?
 
Roofus said:
So you are suggesting to not take CB and Trex at the same time or not to take the dose at the same time?
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no thats just how macro :) takes it. there are a lot of people that mix and match them. 1 thermorexin/1CB. some people take CB in the morning and t-rex during the day. etc.. its really a matter of individual preference and response
 
Ulter said:
Adding simple carbs to the Sesapure, Thermorexin, or Cardio Breeze is throwing gas on the fat burning fire. Your body will crank heat like a nuke.

Cardio Breeze is an overlooked product on the AS board. The women found it last year and buy it like crazy because they do morning cardio all the time. Raina (she's even got it in her signature), Bunny, Jenscat, Sassy, etc, use it all the time. I HAVE to use it or I can't make it to the end of my cardio session without slowing down. Like kethnaab said, you blow through cardio sessions like you're on auto pilot.
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If i'm already taking trex, ses, lev, gluc, and YES...........is it still safe to take cardio breeze??? my cardio this morning was rough..........had no energy at all.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
dosage?

if stim response is low hydration is the most likely issue (particularly in am)-- water intake and bodywieght?
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6 trex/day
6 levorex/day
3 ses/day
glucorell as needed
YES in the mornings before cardio

water intake = at least 1 gallon/day, probably closer to 1.5
weight = 207
 
try kicking up the water. a bit, particularly in the morning (when you are dehydrated from the night without water.)

are you eating before AM cardio or is that "empty stomach"?
 
macrophage69alpha said:
try kicking up the water. a bit, particularly in the morning (when you are dehydrated from the night without water.)

are you eating before AM cardio or is that "empty stomach"?
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empty stomach.........always heard that was best the stomach can take it.
 
jronimoe15 said:
empty stomach.........always heard that was best the stomach can take it.
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try having some fruit, just a small amount, like a half banana or an apple. it will reglycogenate the liver and optimize both energy and fat burning.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
try kicking up the water. a bit, particularly in the morning (when you are dehydrated from the night without water.)

are you eating before AM cardio or is that "empty stomach"?
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macro....................also, i have a post regarding my cycle title........."X, Krishna, mods, and other experienced bros"..................i would like to get your comment on it. i ask a lot of questions, but some haven't been answered. just so there is no confusion, i'm currently taking .4mg/hgh/day, 5 days/wk for HRT. I've got EQ and Var, which i want to run for 12/16 weeks, but this is NOT part of my HRT..................i think X thinks that it is. Please look through the post and give me your feedback..............your advice is greatly appreciate..............by the way, just got my big bottle of ses today..............
 
nothing wrong with a EQ/Var cycle, whether its an addition to HRT is irrelevant. just make sure to run PCT.

though for long term HRT they are not ideal.

HRT is what you want it to be, dont let doctors or others define it for you. you can have HRT base and runs cycles with it. you can run continuous cycles (typically test based or at least containing) as your high dose HRT :) .
 
macrophage69alpha said:
nothing wrong with a EQ/Var cycle, whether its an addition to HRT is irrelevant. just make sure to run PCT.

though for long term HRT they are not ideal.

HRT is what you want it to be, dont let doctors or others define it for you. you can have HRT base and runs cycles with it. you can run continuous cycles (typically test based or at least containing) as your high dose HRT :) .
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exactly what i thought macro.............thanks for the feedback. HGH will be my base HRT, and i will most likely run 1 maybe 2 cycles per year, very mild cycles. your thoughts are exactly what i thought..........i couldn't really get a straight answer from X............thanks bro. additionally, i love your products.............as far as pct with my eq/var, what would you suggest, and dosage? i've heard nolva, hcg, etc., but i know you make a product called AIFM........not sure what it is, or if i should use it, but all your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
 
AI (AIFM or aromasin)- low dose (since you are using EQ)
SERM( clomid or nolva- 3-4 weeks begining 2-3 weeks after last EQ)
HCG- 5-10 days 500iu/day (if needed, you can probably low end with that type of cycle)
 
I was wondering what's recommended for someone with a sensitive stomach to help fat-burning. Cardiobreeze, Sesapure, Thermorexin or yohimburn? I can't even take Hydroxycut w/o having to crap 5 times immediately afterwards. I think it might be the caffeine, but possibly some of the other ingredients as well. I dont know if I need much of a general stimulant b/c I take 20-40 mg of adderall a day.
 
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sesapure should be fine as well as yohimburn. CB or thermorexin could cause issues, if you have problems with caffeine based stims.

in your case levorex, yohimburn ES, sesapure and glucorell are all good additions/options
 
macrophage69alpha said:
the "kick" from thermorexin comes from the yohimbine and synephrine (which do excite the CNS). Cardio breeze works downstream of the adrenergic receptors, hence you get the "energy and body stimulus" without the CNS activation.
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Tha's the kind of product I am looking for. I don't like being wired.
 
no straight up...i take that shit before i grapple and im like yeah who wants some...im the last guy on the mat...everyone is sitting on the side...i am trying to they what i should be stacking with it
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
no straight up...i take that shit before i grapple and im like yeah who wants some...im the last guy on the mat...everyone is sitting on the side...i am trying to they what i should be stacking with it
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