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Hey, i need help and advice from you guys.
During november/december 2014 i did an anavar cycle @ 70mg for 5weeks. I lost a little libido after that and had some erectile dysfunction. I didn't do a PCT cause i had to travel. Then in January 2015 i did a cycle of 600 deca and 600 sustanon and anadrol for 8 weeks. My LH was 0.35 FSH 0.09 and total test was around 300 during that time. I did clomid 100mg for 4 weeks after that, and my values rose up to
Total Testosterone 392.31 ng/dL

FSH 1.14 mIU/mL

LH 5.15 mIU/mL

Free Testosterone 11.81 pg/ml

E2 18 pg/mL

At present, i'm getting 70-90% hard erections after stimulation.

Do you think my problem could be masturbating too much during my cycle?? cause i had ED during the deca/sustanon cycle itself. Maybe i desensitized myself and got sexually exhausted.

What could be done to restore sexual potency now?? To get 100% hard erections spontaneously.

Will my body be repaired?? Its been one and a half year, i have not touched steroids. Yet i'm only getting 70-90% hard erections after stimulation. Would stopping masturbation for a month help??

If any of you can help a brother out, i'd be grateful.

I'm gonna get new tests done soon.
 
enlightenment said:
Will i recover?? Do i need to get fresh new lab reports??
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I would bet it's purely psychological bro. Go get bloods so you can see that everything's fine and you'll be back to normal right away. A vey high % of ED cases are mental not physical. I bet if somebody gave you a tic tax and told you it would fix the problem you'd be poppin wood 10 mins free taking it lol.
 
Have you tried any natural test boosters like d aspartic or tribulas, it might help idk but it did for me

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Your problems certainly aren't from masturbating too much. Sex/ejaculation has no effect on testosterone levels.

Your natural testosterone production is suppressed (and thus your libido) because you didn't run a PCT after your anavar cycle and the PCT you ran after your second cycle was no where near sufficient.

What you need to do is re-run a proper PCT protocol to restore your body's natural testosterone production. Run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
 
All you need to do now, is run the Perfect PCT as suggested by @muskate, and then two weeks later do blood work in order to make sure that everything is fine. I am sure that after than you will be back to normal, and there will be no problems with erections. As it has been mentioned above, most ED problems are due to psychological problems, so you need to relax and cool down, and you will see how things will get better, especially after doing the PCT. Just let this be a lesson for you that you always need to run a proper PCT after each cycle, and use the right ancillaries during the cycle. Then everything will be just fine.
 
Thanks for your help guys. I'll look into perfect PCT and run a blood test before and after it.

Will the PCT still work after so long?

Muskate, the reason I'm saying it could be from masturbation is, my test levels are above normal although on the lower side. I tried not masturbating for 4 days and almost got a spontaneous erection the other day.

i'll recheck my values get back to you guys and then run the PCT you gave me.

btw. I'm 29 years old
 
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Definitely run the perfect pct and get blood work done a month or so after. That will show you if you are recovered. Also make sure that your diet is on point. A lot of guys have ED issues due to poor heart health. Eat well and make sure to get your cardio in.
 
I think first off you need to CHILLAX!! this is very important.. cause all this panicking is not helping your situation.

you didn't run a proper PCT either time, and you didn't run blood work to see your baseline numbers or after your first cycle.

running steroids is no joke and they do effect your reproductive health, they can permanently ruin your pituitary glands, but in your case I do not believe you are ruined cause you only ran 2 cycles and you have been off 18 months.

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Yes, I understood that running steroids is no joke after my shutdown.

so no more pct for now?? If my hpta has restarted the values will go up on their own??

Also, so, what should I test along with total test, free test, lh, fsh this time?? I'm gonna get bloods again to see where I'm standing.

I will surely check out the products you're recommending.
 
Why couldn't you take some N2GUARD and BRIDGE with you when you were traveling?

For libido and erectile function, get some avenacosides, muare puama, xantoparmillia and cndium.
 
I'll check out all the supplements you guys mentioned. Thank you

Guys, when my total test was 2000 during my cycle, I was incredibly horny, yet was getting soft erections. Could my problem be sexual exhaustion from rubbing out too much??
 
For the libido I would also recommend you to run some HCGenerate - it will give a good boost in libido and erections, and unlike many other natty test boosters that I have tried, HCGenerate really makes a difference.

As for the softish erections, sincerely I have also had this problem on my first cycles, but I am still unsure of why that happened to me. Guess if must be related to other health issues and psychological stress.
 
enlightenment said:
Thanks for your help guys. I'll look into perfect PCT and run a blood test before and after it.

Will the PCT still work after so long?

Muskate, the reason I'm saying it could be from masturbation is, my test levels are above normal although on the lower side. I tried not masturbating for 4 days and almost got a spontaneous erection the other day.

i'll recheck my values get back to you guys and then run the PCT you gave me.

btw. I'm 29 years old
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It should. If the PCT doesnt work, then most likely TRT is the way to go here
 
Total Testosterone 392.31 ng/dL

FSH 1.14 mIU/mL

LH 5.15 mIU/mL

Free Testosterone 11.81 pg/ml

E2 18 pg/mL

At these values before doing the PCT you guys recommended, will i actually require TRT?? Or will the PCT you guys recommended work??

Another PCT question, should i run HCG before the PCT??

I'll get new reports after 2 weeks, and you guys tell me whether i should do another PCT or not.

Last 2 days, i got 95% hard erections, after stimulation.
 
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The interesting thing about CLomid is that everyone says it takes several weeks for T levels to go back up. Well, if you did nothing your T levels would go up in several weeks.
 
enlightenment said:
Thanks for your help guys. I'll look into perfect PCT and run a blood test before and after it.

Will the PCT still work after so long?

Muskate, the reason I'm saying it could be from masturbation is, my test levels are above normal although on the lower side. I tried not masturbating for 4 days and almost got a spontaneous erection the other day.

i'll recheck my values get back to you guys and then run the PCT you gave me.

btw. I'm 29 years old
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Erections/ejaculation have no effect on testosterone levels. If you haven't ejaculated for a while you will be more primed to have sex but that doesn't mean it has any effect on your testosterone levels.
 
muskate said:
Erections/ejaculation have no effect on testosterone levels. If you haven't ejaculated for a while you will be more primed to have sex but that doesn't mean it has any effect on your testosterone levels.
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excess masturbation may not cause fluctuations in testosterone, but it can cause ED from sexual exhaustion right? Cause my testosterone levels are in range

I'm getting bloods again after 2 more weeks, will post the reports here. Then you guys tell me whether I should get the pct or not.
 
enlightenment said:
excess masturbation may not cause fluctuations in testosterone, but it can cause ED from sexual exhaustion right? Cause my testosterone levels are in range

I'm getting bloods again after 2 more weeks, will post the reports here. Then you guys tell me whether I should get the pct or not.
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Post your blood work results once you get them. If your testosterone levels are low - you need to redo a proper PCT (ideally the perfect PCT protocol).

If your testosterone levels are normal - you don't need to do another PCT.
 
enlightenment said:
Hey, i need help and advice from you guys.
During november/december 2014 i did an anavar cycle @ 70mg for 5weeks. I lost a little libido after that and had some erectile dysfunction. I didn't do a PCT cause i had to travel. Then in January 2015 i did a cycle of 600 deca and 600 sustanon and anadrol for 8 weeks. My LH was 0.35 FSH 0.09 and total test was around 300 during that time. I did clomid 100mg for 4 weeks after that, and my values rose up to
Total Testosterone 392.31 ng/dL

FSH 1.14 mIU/mL

LH 5.15 mIU/mL

Free Testosterone 11.81 pg/ml

E2 18 pg/mL

At present, i'm getting 70-90% hard erections after stimulation.

Do you think my problem could be masturbating too much during my cycle?? cause i had ED during the deca/sustanon cycle itself. Maybe i desensitized myself and got sexually exhausted.

What could be done to restore sexual potency now?? To get 100% hard erections spontaneously.

Will my body be repaired?? Its been one and a half year, i have not touched steroids. Yet i'm only getting 70-90% hard erections after stimulation. Would stopping masturbation for a month help??

If any of you can help a brother out, i'd be grateful.

I'm gonna get new tests done soon.
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Guys, here are my latest lab reports. Please guide me.

LH - 5.66 (Male 0.57 - 12.07mIU/mL)
FSH - 1.24 (Male 0.95 - 11.95mIU/mL)
Total Test - 394 (240 - 950 ng/dL)
Free Test - 12.47 ( adult male 8.69 - 54.69pg/ml)
E2 - 24 (adult male 11 - 44 pg/mL)
Prolactin - 52 (Male - 3.46 - 19.4 ng/mL)


what are the next steps I should take?? Do I need the PCT you guys are recommending?? Or do I simply need to reduce prolactin??

Has my HPTA restarted??
 
enlightenment said:
Guys, here are my latest lab reports. Please guide me.

LH - 5.66 (Male 0.57 - 12.07mIU/mL)
FSH - 1.24 (Male 0.95 - 11.95mIU/mL)
Total Test - 394 (240 - 950 ng/dL)
Free Test - 12.47 ( adult male 8.69 - 54.69pg/ml)
E2 - 24 (adult male 11 - 44 pg/mL)
Prolactin - 52 (Male - 3.46 - 19.4 ng/mL)


what are the next steps I should take?? Do I need the PCT you guys are recommending?? Or do I simply need to reduce prolactin??

Has my HPTA restarted??
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come on, help a brother in need
 
henry100 said:
how do you feel now?
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I'm getting some sensation in my penis without touching it now. Like semi erections without touching, once in 1-3 days. Through stimulation I'm getting 70-90% erections.On my test report it was written, high prolactin may cause gyno and ed.But my gut feeling says, my tt, ft, LH and FSH are still on the low end. So I think another run of clomid+nolva would help along with something that will reduce prolactin. But I need the advice of someone who has the knowledge on the topic before taking action.
 
Do you feel lethargy/fatigue? Are your nipples swollen and/or itchy? Did you use cabergoline during your cycle? Any hard lumps underneath your nipples? Are you having high blood pressure? When you push down on your kidneys and liver is there any pain? Did you use blood pressure meds on your cycles?

Order some cabergoline and take 1 mg 2x a week for 2 weeks and see if your symptoms subside then lower the dose to 0.5 mg 2x/week. If you can't receive caber soon, go to the drug store and take 400 mg of Vitamin B6/day until you get caber.

If none of these work and you've tried everything people have suggested here then you need to see your primary care, get bloods drawn under their care, see if you need to see an endocrinologist and ask for a referral to the cardiologist to get your heart checked and have some tests done on your liver/kidneys.

I'm literally trying to help cover everything possible for you lol but you need to take deep breaths bro.


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enlightenment said:
Guys, here are my latest lab reports. Please guide me.

LH - 5.66 (Male 0.57 - 12.07mIU/mL)
FSH - 1.24 (Male 0.95 - 11.95mIU/mL)
Total Test - 394 (240 - 950 ng/dL)
Free Test - 12.47 ( adult male 8.69 - 54.69pg/ml)
E2 - 24 (adult male 11 - 44 pg/mL)
Prolactin - 52 (Male - 3.46 - 19.4 ng/mL)


what are the next steps I should take?? Do I need the PCT you guys are recommending?? Or do I simply need to reduce prolactin??

Has my HPTA restarted??
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Your testosterone and FSH levels are low, and your prolactin levels are sky high. You need to re-run a proper PCT protocol and use a anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to bring your prolactin back down to the low-normal range.

Run the perfect PCT protocol as laid out here ->http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

In addition to that, add in cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD throughout the entire PCT protocol.

Once you are done the PCT protocol, wait 3-4 weeks and get blood work done again. I suspect everything will be back in the normal range then.
 
muskate said:
Your testosterone and FSH levels are low, and your prolactin levels are sky high. You need to re-run a proper PCT protocol and use a anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to bring your prolactin back down to the low-normal range.

Run the perfect PCT protocol as laid out here ->http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

In addition to that, add in cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD throughout the entire PCT protocol.

Once you are done the PCT protocol, wait 3-4 weeks and get blood work done again. I suspect everything will be back in the normal range then.
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Muskate, the perfect PCT does not include HCG. I've seen certain PCTs where the shut down is intense require HCG for HPTA restart. So do I require HCG or will the perfect pct + caber, do the trick?
 
enlightenment said:
Muskate, the perfect PCT does not include HCG. I've seen certain PCTs where the shut down is intense require HCG for HPTA restart. So do I require HCG or will the perfect pct + caber, do the trick?
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If you take some time to do some research on HCG, you will find that it does more harm then good. Read this: http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/

I don't recommend HCG usage at all. The perfect PCT + caber is all you need.
 
Also, there is no chance of the perfect pct + caber shutting me down more in any way or causing more problems right?? Cause I'll be doing it so late a after my last steroid cycle in April 201


thanks for your patience Muskate
 
There is no risk of the perfect PCT + caber shutting you down. It will only increase testosterone levels and your body's natural testosterone production.

As your body's natural testosterone production re-starts, your testicles will return to normal size and the atrophy will go away.

Follow the perfect PCT + caber and you are good to go buddy.
 
enlightenment said:
Is it natural to have more ED temporarily during PCT?? Everytime I did PCT my libido and ed worsened and then improved later on.
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It's very individual but that isn't uncommon. The SERMS in a PCT will lower estrogen levels which can cause ED temporarily until your testosterone levels start to increase and your body starts to recover.

I suspect your libido will come back in a week or so.
 
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