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I'm having a really tough time with this guys.... I nearly sent this to my ex today...

I know I'm gonna get called a fucking vagina and hwat not because of this.. but fuck it.... I can't stand this.

_______________
For whatever reason, I can't NOT write this.

I feel that if I keep my emotions bottled up for any longer I will
explode. The feeling is difficult to describe, but it is torture.

Some people would say nothing ventured, nothing gained, I guess I am
using that principle as part of my excuse for writing. I feel that if
I don't say anything, how are you to know how I feel, who else would
be to blame for my situation now except for myself.

Its been over 4 months now since our relationship ended. Had someone
asked me in June how I'd be feeling now I would have guessed I'd be
long recovered, moved on with life, looking forward to exciting new
experiences.

Instead I find my thoughts constantly shifting to you. I think about
what an amazing person you are, I think about how happy I was to be
with you, how proud I was to call you my girlfriend, and how much
exciting I had when I thought of our future.

Our 21 months together were good, even great, we shared a lot of
things, did a lot of growing together, had some tough times, but
overall some really enjoyable times. I had always thought, and still
somehow hope, that those first 21 months were just the tip of the
iceberg when it comes to "us," those were the first couple of years
where we were close, but didn't know each other quite completely yet.
I'd like to be able to get to know you like no one else ever has.

We had a few rough spots, a few challenging times. Times where there
were doubts or questions. I felt that after every rough spot we had,
every tough time we talked though, that we both emerged stronger and
close then we were before. That ever difficult hurdle we faced just
bonded us together and tested our strength. I hope and pray that
these 4 months apart have just been yet another one of those hurdles,
those tests that life throw at people, to really make people question
themselves and their relationships.

I'm not into playing games, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do or
not supposed to do, supposed to say or not supposed to say. I know I
can't really control what I think very effectively, or what I feel. I
also know you can't either. I know we had a fire burning once, a
passion, something that started small, started as nothing, and then
grew and grew and grew. We started out just emailing each other, long
before we had ever met face to face. You were nothing but words in an
email and a PH picture one summer. Then we met, became friends, not
close friends, but someone who I enjoyed talking to, enjoyed seeing
occasionally, someone I definitely valued having in my life. From
there things continued to grow, first hooking up, I was the fortunate
recipient of a drunken dial I will to this day cherish, then more
hooking up, some uncertainty, but I think we both knew in the back of
our heads that something felt different about being with this person.
There was a base level of comfort, then a layer of excitment, and then
top that off with some anticipation and hope for the future and you
had a couple that simple "worked".. I can't think of how else to say
it. I know we both looked at our other single friends many times and
were so thankful of what we had, that we didn't have to go through all
the heartache, the drama, uncertainty. Then came the love, I was
slow to admit it, as I always am, because its a scary thing. I don't
give my heart to anyone easily, lucky for me you took the initiative,
and one night, as I held you in my arms, you told me you loved me... I
said "you do?" when in my head I was screaming back "I LOVE YOU."

Ok so enough of the idealistic crap.

I'm a smart guy, you are a smart girl. We both know what we are
feeling and what we are not feeling, we both know when something feels
good, or bad, right, or wrong.

Somewhere along the way bigger doubts arose in yor head. I'm not
exactly sure why, I know that some of them have to stem from me, or
the relationshop, but that others stemmed from your current situation,
your place in life at this particular time. Bad timing? maybe. Bad
luck? Sure, if there is such a thing as luck. We use luck to explain
what we can't explain.

So for whatever reason, the feelings started to fade, or die, or wane,
or whatever you'd like to say to descibe it. It sucks. It sucks
being with someone but not feeling that excitement that you once felt.
It sucks because you WANT so badly to feel it but for whatever reason
its not there, and no matter how hard you try or how badly you want it
you can't force it.

Just as no matter how hard I try to invoke some feeling in you, or how
badly I'd love to have you in my life, I can't force it.

I'm just communicating to you my thoughts, my feelings, wishes,
desires. Not trying to force anything, but hoping in some way that it
does evoke some type of emotion, trigger some feeling. Or maybe you
have had your doubts, or thoughts, or wants.. and for whatever reason
we haven't been in the position to talk about them... I know that's
a long shot, but I'm considering every possibility.

I'm also considering the posibility that you feel like a great burden
has been lifted, that you are loving life now like you never have
before. That the new found freedom is awesome and you are taking
advantage of every minute of it. That you look back on our time
together with fondness, however it was just an experience, one of many
experiences that have shaped you into who you are and collectively
make up the person you are today.

I know what its like to feel that need for freedom. To want to know
what its out there, to have new experiences, to really feel like you
have lived life to its fullest and experienced everything that is has
to offer.

I want you to be able to have that Ssrah, I want you to have all kinds
of fun experiences and adventures, to really be fulfilled in life, on
all levels. And for that, I do not blame you one bit.

Having said that, through my experience, and I do have a couple of
years of experience on you, I've also realized a couple things. I
make friends easily, as do you, but I connect on a REAL level with
very few. Again I'm getting into territory that I can't quite explain
fully, but its a feeling that you know when you've found it. When
you've found someone you can be yourself with, someone you are
completely comfortable with, someone who you not only love, but who
makes you love YOURSELF as the same time.

Also, no person, and no relationship is perfect. I wasn't the best
person I could h ave been at all times to you, and I don't know if it
would have been possible to do, so its not worth splitting hairs over.
I do believe that you and I could be better, and that the potential
was always there, it was just a matter of us getting there. I always
felt that we would get there, which is why I don't think I really
stressed or worried about things too much. I felt like every day with
you was better then the next and at that rate the future was poised to
be incredble... full of hope, promise, and joy.

I told you not to contact me and I have withheld contact from you, not
to be an asshole, not because I was trying to get even or play games,
but simply because everytime I was reminded of you it hurt, it
reminded me of the loss, it took me back to that day in the car when
you asked me to come inside because you wanted to talk to me about
something. I couldn't live that way, I needed to "move on" to get
over things. But as evidenced by this email, I apparently haven't
been doing a very good job at that.

But is it because I'm fucke dup? I'm hung up? I can't move on, I
can't get over things, I am too emtional? At first that was my line
of thinking, but more recently I've started to believe something a
little different. I've started to believe that I found someone
incredibly special in you Sarah, and these feelings are my heart's way
of telling me that, and its say to not let go, to fight with
everything you've got to win this girl's heart because SHE IS WORTH
IT. Life throws eveyoe challeneges, big and small, and you can just
take things as they come, or you can be an active participant in your
own life. I'm attempting to do that now, I'm attempting to let you
know exactly how much you mean to me and how important I really think
you are.

It saddens me to think that you may be reading this and feeling sorry
for me, or that it make have little or no effect on you. because I
know there was one point during our time together where an outpouring
of feelins like this from either one of us would have made the other
overflow with joy, serve as a reminder of why we have devoted so much
time to each other.

I've been doing a lot of what people call soul searching, reflecting
back on myself, and us. As i said, I think there are things that I
could improve, I'm not saying I want to just get you back and go back
to being status quo, continuing on as if nothing happened. I think
you know me well enough to know that for me, sometimes my initial
reaction and thoughts on something aren't what I ultimately come to
hold as truth or a belief. This is definitely one of those cases.

I also understand that for whatever reason, timing just might not be
right. I have no clue what else you have going on in your life right
now, but I'm hoping, and I mean this, that you have had a chance to
experience some new things, and if you haven't, then yo definitely
need that chance to do so. I felt compelled to write because I cannot
stand this feeling of just being left out, like my time of usefulness
has ended and its on to bigger and better things. When I think of
bigger and better things in life, I think of you. With you I truly
felt I had found someone that I could continue to grow with, someone
who complimented me as a person, and who I did the same for.

So what exactly is the point of this, I can't say specifically, or
maybe I am just too afraid to say specifically. But I'd love to be
able to re-open lines of communication with you, to get to know you
once again. I'd love to take you out to dinner and talk, to hold you.

I'd like to know what your thoughts are now, 4 months later. You
never know what the future holds, but I'm sure you have an idea of
what you do and don't want. Does anything I have said make any
difference to you?

Brian
 
Don't do it, man. I'll kill your ass if you do. Nothing good can come of it.



It was probably good for you to write that stuff down, but don't send it to her.
 
Do you think taking her out to dinner will make you feel better? It will make you feel like shit afterwards. I've been there.
 
haha, okay since we are having confession time here, I checked the IM log of me & my ex and reread our conversations. I don't know why I torture myself so much.
 
wtf bor that is a pathetic letter. no offense bro but it is really pathetic. she dissed you 4 months ago...learn it, love it, live it.
 
Yeah, I think its a good idea

Good luck
 
As long and as well written as the letter is, its basically just "I miss you, please take me back" repeated over and over. You seem like a smart guy, and I think deep down you realize this won't have the effect you're looking for.
 
Bro, from experience, DO NOT SEND THAT! You think you feel like crap now? Well just wait until you send that and pump up her ego a little, then she crushes whats left of yours.
 
Lestat - Bro here is the truth - not what you should do or shouldn't or any of that shit...

What you had once with her is now damaged and broken. Even if she WANTED to come back to you, it would never work 100%, and it will never be the same. It would be like a vase with a leak. You can bandage it up and try to plug the holes, but it will always be leaking, imperfect and broken. The fact is it HAS been broken and things like betrayal and anger and sadness and regret have been introduced and it will NEVER be the same.

The feelings you have are natural.

The only wrong thing you can do is to turn back. That is also the only approach that will keep you from growing as a person.
 
Just beg her to take your sorry-ass back.
At least then you'll only be partially exposing your gaping vagina.
 
Welcome to the club orb

but for real I think that will make you come across desperate and if anything came from it she will know she has the power over you
 
I'm also considering the posibility that you feel like a great burden
has been lifted, that you are loving life now like you never have
before. That the new found freedom is awesome and you are taking
advantage of every minute of it. That you look back on our time
together with fondness, however it was just an experience, one of many
experiences that have shaped you into who you are and collectively
make up the person you are today.

It saddens me to think that you may be reading this and feeling sorry
for me, or that it make have little or no effect on you.

---------

These are the only parts of the letter she will relate to or give her a feeling like you understand her.
you're trying to drum up old emotions that aren't there in her anymore. talking to her logically about why she should still feel them just doesn't work.
don't send it..........
I think you'll send one of these eventually
I guess history always repeats, and lessons are learned the hard way for a reason.
 
Lestat, if you send it to her I'll send one to my ex. Deal?
 
alien amp pharm said:
Lestat, if you send it to her I'll send one to my ex. Deal?
holy fuck I am really going to have a stroke from you...
 
This shit is so crazy... its like 99% guarenteed that whatever I write pretty much everyone will tell me DON'T SEND IT... you guys, my friends here, anyone....

but why is the urge to contact her so strong?

I've been sick this week with a cold and my sleep and shit has been all fucked up.. I was trying to take a nap and for like 2 hours straight I was thinking about her, missing her, all that shit.. so I got up and wrote that letter and believe me I was seconds away from sending it.. luckiy I had a female friend online and I told her about it and she was like "what? Don't send it, you sound pathetic!"

This is such complete BULLSHIT.

I've got a chick coming over tonight, she's BRINGING me dinner, bringing dessert for myself, my roommates and my friends... we're gonna watch Surivivor and The Apprentice... this chick loves sex, wants to try out all kinds of sex toys and shit with me... shes no bimbo, she went to the same school I went to as an undergrad (top 50 school, top 10 public school)... on paper it would be a dream come true right?

But I can't fucking get into it... I'm basically ready to call it off completely.. I've told her that I still think about my ex.. I told her that I can't help but compare things still.. she knows about the recent breakup.. yet she still wants to continue to get to know me in hopes that we grow even closer.

My point is, I can get fucking chicks, I was at lunch today and nearly asked a chick for her number, just because I can.... but the thing is, I'm hung up on this other girl... how the hell does this happen?
 
I'm just joking anyways. I got pwned enough by my ex last week.

I realize mine's over.
 
Also I apologize guys... I know I'm writing the same shit, over and over.. and you guys all say the same thing over and over... yet for whatever reason, I still haven't quite gotten it.

Its fucked, that's all I can say... when I take a step back and look at myself I'm ashamed. This isn't me.
 
string_bean00 said:
QT has more balls than half of you guys.
:lmao: I give great advice that I don't always follow myself. I sent an email to someone I had a thing with a little while back to wish him a Happy Birthday. I told myself it was just wishing him well but in my heart I knew I wanted him to reply and he never did. I would just like to save these guys a little pain.
 
Lestat said:
but the thing is, I'm hung up on this other girl... how the hell does this happen?
it happens bro.... it has happend to me and i am sure a lot of the other dudes around here...

the thing is you have built this chick up on a pedestal, and to be honest it isn't going to be easy, and it isn't going to happen quickly, and you aren't going to get any answers... but you will get over it eventually...

I can tell you if you don't get your shit together it could and probably will fuck shit up for you... your life, your job, your aspirations - even shit with chicks you could be with (and probabably woud love to be with if you had your head on straight-and you might regret missing out on them later)

I wish I had dudes telling me to do what we are telling you now - cause I found out the hard way, wasted a couple years with that shit (off an on, not constant)... and in my situation, the girl WANTED to get back together at times like I did (which made it harder cause she was coming back for me too), but shit was already tainted and ruined and it never worked.....

trust me - it is no where you want to be....

don't be ashamed bro, it is rough, I know...
 
Lestat said:
we're gonna watch Surivivor and The Apprentice...

hell yeah apprentice is tonight!!!!

this new chick sounds great and very understanding, good luck with her she sounds awesome

meanwhile your ex hasn't give you a second thought for days!

get your logic and priorities straight, Ledamnit Lestat

you start sending that shit out and not only will it make you a wimp in her eyes again (right when she was starting to respect you again), it'll get around the office it's been almost a year and you're still at home whimpering

she'll ask a friend for advice on what to do, and her friend will blab

yeah I know it's only been 4 months but that's how office rumors are.
 
I wish there was some easy sure fire way to get rid of this feeling though...
 
Having testicles would help. :)
But otherwise, time heals all wounds.

Lestat said:
I wish there was some easy sure fire way to get rid of this feeling though...
 
Lestat said:
I wish there was some easy sure fire way to get rid of this feeling though...

I think in the case of "I got dumped, oh my god my life is over, she was the one perfect girl in the world, we loved everything about each other, I'm going to die, there was that undescribable click, yadda yadda yadda type breakups, it takes half the time of the length relationship

at least it did for me but I was younger.
 
Lestat said:
I wish there was some easy sure fire way to get rid of this feeling though...
Maybe we SHOULD let you go and get pwned by her... that will cure you real quick....

Like a swift kick in the nuts.
 
Play it out in your mind Lestat. If she wanted to get back together she would. What do you think giving her that letter will accomplish? Not a thing. Do you think she's automatically going to change her mind after she reads that?

I agree with Becoming. Pretend in a couple weeks from now she comes back, things will never be the same. It may be at first, but it's already been broken and will be doomed.

Just last week I was sitting here wanting my ex to come back some day, but then I realized that as much as I think I'd want her back, I'd be mad and too afraid of the same thing happening again. I don't think I would ever trust her completely again.
 
Seriously - maybe seeing her making out with some dude at a party will help cure you....

It woudl feel like somebody just stabbed you in the guts and they fell out all over the ground... but you would feel better the next day....
 
Code said:
Having testicles would help. :)
But otherwise, time heals all wounds.


I'm beginning to wonder about the time heals statement as he has been whining for a while now. I got over my first lover quicker than this
 
I've had one other real heartbreak... and I've had plenty of other little rejections that tied my stomach in knotts for a day or two.. but nothing close to this....

and Becoming, I know she's hooked up with other guys.... the thing is, that doesn't phase me.. because I have hooked up with other chicks.. and I know that its possible to hook up, make out, fuck... but get absolutely zero satisfaction from it.. in my idealistic head I imagine that is what she is going though... if I saw her making out with a dude I'd think... "whatever, he's no where near as good as me"
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Stop being idealistic and start being realistic, if she was the person you think she is she would have never dumped you in the first place.
That's true, but nobody is perfect right?
 
let the other chick come round, you'll have fun :)
 
Lestat said:
and Becoming, I know she's hooked up with other guys.... the thing is, that doesn't phase me.. because I have hooked up with other chicks.. and I know that its possible to hook up, make out, fuck... but get absolutely zero satisfaction from it.. in my idealistic head I imagine that is what she is going though... if I saw her making out with a dude I'd think... "whatever, he's no where near as good as me"
this might be a bit brutal, but probably necessary to say from the way you are talking...




here is the thing tho bro - you are right.....that shit doesn't phase you because you still want to be with her... that is why you get no satisfaction from it....

and you are somehow rationalizing that it don't matter to you what she does because as you say "in my idealistic head I imagine that is what she is going though... "... implying that these guys probably dont really move her, cause you can't fathom that she has the same type of feelings for them that you do for her...

but here is the deal... the person that she has no feeling for, that doesn't move her, is YOU.... that is why you need to move on.... she left because SHE wont get any satisfaction from you. and because in the same way you would dis other chicks for her, thinking only she will give you satisfaction, she has dissed YOU for other guys, believing that she will only get the satisfaction that she wants with THEM.... not YOU.

I am sorry, that is harsh, but it is the truth. If that don't hurt like a bitch to hear, then I am really worried about you.

You need to stop playing this game with yourself, cause you are making it harder than it needs to be.
 
Becoming said:
this might be a bit brutal, but probably necessary to say from the way you are talking...




here is the thing tho bro - you are right.....that shit doesn't phase you because you still want to be with her... that is why you get no satisfaction from it....

and you are somehow rationalizing that it don't matter to you what she does because as you say "in my idealistic head I imagine that is what she is going though... "... implying that these guys probably dont really move her, cause you can't fathom that she has the same type of feelings for them that you do for her...

but here is the deal... the person that she has no feeling for, that doesn't move her, is YOU.... that is why you need to move on.... she left because SHE wont get any satisfaction from you. and because in the same way you would dis other chicks for her, thinking only she will give you satisfaction, she has dissed YOU for other guys, believing that she will only get the satisfaction that she wants with THEM.... not YOU.

I am sorry, that is harsh, but it is the truth. If that don't hurt like a bitch to hear, then I am really worried about you.

You need to stop playing this game with yourself, cause you are making it harder than it needs to be.
Dude I know that somewhere inside of me I know this is true, but I can't get myself to believe it.
 
Lestat said:
Dude I know that somewhere inside of me I know this is true, but I can't get myself to believe it.
probably cause for you to realize this, and to really admit to yourself that it is true, is going to hurt like a bitch, and you probably know it.... (confidence, ego, etc are all part of this)

if you haven't really come to terms with it yet, then you haven't really let yourself get to the part that really feels bad....

you are going to have to let go bro and let it happen... once you do, things will get better...

there is your problem bro... I don't know how to help you fix that.
 
Becoming said:
probably cause for you to realize this, and to really admit to yourself that it is true, is going to hurt like a bitch, and you probably know it.... (confidence, ego, etc are all part of this)

if you haven't really come to terms with it yet, then you haven't really let yourself get to the part that really feels bad....

you are going to have to let go bro and let it happen... once you do, things will get better...

there is your problem bro... I don't know how to help you fix that.

[THE END] fade to black.......
 
Dude now write a letter in the reverse. Write down all the reason why you are not togeter and all the shit that went wrong. Make it as explicit and as mean as you can. Remind yourself why shit didn't work out. I guarantee that you will find a lot of reasons why you are not good togeter.

Either way I wouldn't send that letter. If you do you might as well tuck them between your legs and strap on some heals.

Sorry bro but it's one thing to pour your heart out to a bunch of people you will probably never meet across the world. It's another to put yourself back on the hot seat with a woman who, by all accounts, doesn't give a damn.
 
Brian,

I don't think you should send this to her. I think you need to have a talk with her and explain what you feel for her. Gather up your thoughts and think about what you want, what's important to you here and now. Formulate your ideas in your head and explain to her from the heart what you feel. I don't know the circumstances surrounding your breakup, but I think the important thing here is that you let her know what you feel, regardless of what that is. Focus, this is important, bro.

DIV

:chomp:
 
DIVISION said:
I don't know the circumstances surrounding your breakup, but I think the important thing here is that you let her know what you feel, regardless of what that is.

Div bro -

you should go through and read the many other threads on this over the past several months.

I don't think you woudl be giving this same advice if you did.
 
Becoming said:
Div bro -

you should go through and read the many other threads on this over the past several months.

I don't think you woudl be giving this same advice if you did.

I just read back in the thread.

So it looks like he doesn't want to realize that the relationship is over and that she has moved on. Is that the case, nugga?

DIV

:chomp:
 
Becoming said:
Div bro -

you should go through and read the many other threads on this over the past several months.

I don't think you woudl be giving this same advice if you did.
People do break up and get back together though.. it happens.

I have a good friend who is happily married now with a kid and everything.. he and his wife separated for 6 months, he moved to a different city even... but now he says they are stronger then ever...

I keep wishing that somehow in this case the same type of thing could happen.
 
DIVISION said:
I just read back in the thread.

So it looks like he doesn't want to realize that the relationship is over and that she has moved on. Is that the case, nugga?
the abridged version, yes, it seems that way... the whole thing is pretty involved overall, a LONG story over the past couple months.


Lestat said:
I keep wishing that somehow in this case the same type of thing could happen.
I wish I would win the lotto bro, but it aint going to happen. You need to stop living in fantasy land bro.
 
All I can say is don't do it. I broke up with my girlfriend a while ago and was in a world of pain, and I wrote out a letter I wanted to send to her. Thank god I didn't! Don't do it! Life may seem worse without her right now but it always gets better. I can't stress this enough, your life will get alot more enjoyable if you move on.

Andrew
 
Lestat said:
People do break up and get back together though.. it happens.

I have a good friend who is happily married now with a kid and everything.. he and his wife separated for 6 months, he moved to a different city even... but now he says they are stronger then ever...

I keep wishing that somehow in this case the same type of thing could happen.

Look, Brian...

If you've explained to her how you feel and she still doesn't want to get back together, then it's pretty much over. You can hold out hope that she might change her mind, but that is unlikely at this point. She has moved on, you should probably do the same. There are women everywhere, I have no doubts that you can find another woman who makes you happy.

Trust me on this, holmes....

Move on, it's for your own betterment, you cannot live in the past.

DIV

:chomp:
 
mccrazy said:
All I can say is don't do it. I broke up with my girlfriend a while ago and was in a world of pain, and I wrote out a letter I wanted to send to her. Thank god I didn't! Don't do it! Life may seem worse without her right now but it always gets better. I can't stress this enough, your life will get alot more enjoyable if you move on.

Andrew
wow man, thanks for making this your first post. I appreciate that.
 
DIVISION said:
Look, Brian...

If you've explained to her how you feel and she still doesn't want to get back together, then it's pretty much over. You can hold out hope that she might change her mind, but that is unlikely at this point. She has moved on, you should probably do the same. There are women everywhere, I have no doubts that you can find another woman who makes you happy.

Trust me on this, holmes....

Move on, it's for your own betterment, you cannot live in the past.

DIV

:chomp:
Yeah... I did explain how I felt the first week after the breakup.. that was 4 months ago now.

I think all these feelings are resurfacing now because I've somehow got it into my head that she could somehow have changed her mind... I was doing really well for a stretch of time...
 
I say send it. I'm serious. I think it will actually help you get over her faster. You just need some damn closure.



DO IT.
 
Lestat said:
Yeah... I did explain how I felt the first week after the breakup.. that was 4 months ago now.

I think all these feelings are resurfacing now because I've somehow got it into my head that she could somehow have changed her mind... I was doing really well for a stretch of time...

I think for your own well being you need to move on, Brian.

Tormenting yourself over the past and second guessing yourself will not help. She's gone, bro. Move on and find another woman; you're in San Diego, right? Surely you can find a woman that is to your liking, nugga.

DIV

:chomp:
 
You guys can tell him to move on all you like, it's not gonna help anything. Clearly he's not over it. The fastest way to recovery is gonna come through more rejection.
 
string_bean00 said:
Don't do it, man. I'll kill your ass if you do. Nothing good can come of it.



It was probably good for you to write that stuff down, but don't send it to her.
yeah i probably agree with this guy but if you feel so strongly and need to send it, i say send it, but then if rejected and things dont work out you CAN NOT!!!! send anything like it again or even speak to ehr or see her anymore, simply because then youd be a stalker.

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strangebrew said:
You guys can tell him to move on all you like, it's not gonna help anything. Clearly he's not over it. The fastest way to recovery is gonna come through more rejection.

If ths keeps up any longer we might have to go that route...
 
Becoming said:
If ths keeps up any longer we might have to go that route...

That's just fucking sad.

@ Brian, for your own self-respect, you've got to move on. You owe it to yourself.

@ Becoming, do you really think more rejection is the only way he will realize it's over?

What will it take, nugga?

DIV

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Brian, dude. Just walk away. Your heart has been through enough heartache with her than it ever should. You can piss up a rope all you want but it's still going to come dripping back down on you.
 
DIVISION said:
@ Becoming, do you really think more rejection is the only way he will realize it's over?
No - actually if he is really that resiliant about it, it might not even settle in then either...

Honestly I don't think anybody can help him with this.... It is something he has to do on his own...

(Lestat bro - not meaning to be talking about you like you are not here)
 
Lestat said:
Yeah... I did explain how I felt the first week after the breakup.. that was 4 months ago now.

I think all these feelings are resurfacing now because I've somehow got it into my head that she could somehow have changed her mind... I was doing really well for a stretch of time...


What exactly is it that you are missing so bad? I know you said quite a bit in your letter but what is it that is driving you to be a complete bovine?

This is a simple situation with a simple resolution. MOVE ON. It's over and for a reason. True people change thier minds but a very simple rule is that if a person does it once they will do it again. Your setting yourself up for another fall doing what your doing.

What happens if somehow you do convince her that she made a mistake? What, three, six, nine months down the road when it all goes south again how are you going to feal? I'm willing to bet my horse that you would take it a lot harder the second time and it would not be nearly as clean.

My point is that, as I said earlier, it's over for a reason. Let it go. Sure there is the remote chance that you could get back togeter, have kids and live happily ever after. Elvis could still be alive too.

Move on man. If you need absolute closure there is alwasy the spork option though.

gig
 
Becoming said:
No - actually if he is really that resiliant about it, it might not even settle in then either...

Honestly I don't think anybody can help him with this.... It is something he has to do on his own...

(Lestat bro - not meaning to be talking about you like you are not here)

Of course it's something he has to resolve on his own, I'm just trying to help him in that cause.

If I was his friend, I'd probably slap it outta him......

DIV

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Becoming said:
Honestly I don't think anybody can help him with this.... It is something he has to do on his own...

(Lestat bro - not meaning to be talking about you like you are not here)

this is the exact reason I ended the thread 20 posts ago
 
Wow what a letter lestat. Atleast i know i not the only pussy type. No offence. But heres my advise. Piece of mind and success lies just after that moment when u think u have had enough and want to give up. So hold on and be strong. Trying to pursue what is not meant to be could be very painful. So DON'T DO IT. Get rid of everything that could remind you of her. And i know its not the sex because you are apparently getting it. If anytime you do miss her, call any of your female "freinds" and maybe go out with her. You have to believe that nomatter how big that painful hole in your heart is, its going to heal. Don't be in love with falling in love. Do whatever you have ever fantasized yourself to do. Read books, go out, work out anything. And try not to be in solitude an aweful lot of times. Now i think i know what you are going trough. And you may not send the letter and still keep hurting. If that is the case then go ahead and send the letter. But just think about. Even after you guys are together, where the hell your pride be? I need my partner to respect me, and if u feel small in the eyes of your GF then i don't see it working. Your biggest mistake is just spending a lot of time thinking about her. When u think about someone a lot, then u create an illusive picture of that person in your head. Then u start thinking about that person in a way that she/he does not really deserve. Spending that much time and effort just to write this letter is enough torment for you. So open your mind and kick her out of it. get your buddies to help you if possible. Happy healing.
 
Maybe you need to send her a/the letter.

Maybe you need to face her response to it.

5 months is a fair amount of time.

Or perhap it's the old "want what I can't have" that's driving you but you don't know it.

I dunno.

I'm stumped at this point.
 
velvett said:
Maybe you need to send her a/the letter.

Maybe you need to face her response to it.

5 months is a fair amount of time.

Or perhap it's the old "want what I can't have" that's driving you but you don't know it.

I dunno.

I'm stumped at this point.

I think you're right Velvetteer.......he needs to face her response to his letter....whatever that may be.

That's probably what it's gonna take for him to move on.....

Either that or being arrested for stalking....

DIV

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velvett said:
It really arouses me when you call me Velvetteer.

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It's a rather sick twist of the Micky Mouseketeers thang.....

You're unique, so I thought I'd give you a unique twist of your name....

DIV

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Damn, reading your all's responses is making me mad at my ex. I want to call her up and cuss her out right now and tell her to go to hell.
 
alien amp pharm said:
Damn, reading your all's responses is making me mad at my ex. I want to call her up and cuss her out right now and tell her to go to hell.
Don't waste your breath. You guys need to learn to quit trying to teach a pig to sing. It only annoys the pig but gets you pissed off too.
 
alien amp pharm said:
Damn, reading your all's responses is making me mad at my ex. I want to call her up and cuss her out right now and tell her to go to hell.

Yes, but if you didn't have the balls to keep from going back to her begging.......then what makes you think you have the nuts to call her up now and tell her to fuck off?

DIV

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Don't worry I'm not going to actually call, but the more pissed I become the easier it is on me to get over her. Plus I'm realizing all the shit she put me thru and how selfish she really was/is.
 
alien amp pharm said:
Don't worry I'm not going to actually call, but the more pissed I become the easier it is on me to get over her. Plus I'm realizing all the shit she put me thru and how selfish she really was/is.

It's too bad you didn't realize this when you were actually with her in the beginning. You could have saved yourself alot of drama and heartache....

DIV

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Me thinking that way and leaving a vmail for my ex resulted in us spending 3-4 really hard months of working through all of the shit from the past. I mean everything. It changed everything. Things weren't like they used to be, but they were better and more comfy. Now it's 2+ years later and our wedding is next Friday.
 
Raina said:
Me thinking that way and leaving a vmail for my ex resulted in us spending 3-4 really hard months of working through all of the shit from the past. I mean everything. It changed everything. Things weren't like they used to be, but they were better and more comfy. Now it's 2+ years later and our wedding is next Friday.

I'm happy for you, Raina.

That's great that there's a success story among the ruins of relationships.

I sincerely hope things work out for you in your marriage.....

DIV

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Raina said:
Me thinking that way and leaving a vmail for my ex resulted in us spending 3-4 really hard months of working through all of the shit from the past. I mean everything. It changed everything. Things weren't like they used to be, but they were better and more comfy. Now it's 2+ years later and our wedding is next Friday.

How long after the breakup did you send the email?
 
I think a lot of it is the wanting what I can't have factor.

There are very few things in my life that I do not control... I've accomplished a great deal, I set goals all the time and achieve them, I enjoy challenges...

now I am not looking at her as a challenge, but I think that is playing a big factor... I want to be able to succeed for the sake of succeeding.. If you would have asked me 8 months ago how serious I was, I would have said I had a cool chick, but I'm not sure exactly where things will end up... if you would have asked me what a breakup would do to me, I would have said it wouldn't be happy, but I'd be over it quick.

I'm really surprised at myself at how much this is fucking with me, really. Its never happened before.

I appreciate everyone's responses, I say this all the time, but it helps.

I agree that in some respect, sending the letter, and then getting a flat out rejection or no response might be what I need to move on.. but like Becoming has said, I should be able to move on myself, I don't need her to continually slap me down, she's done it once or twice already... I'm a grown man, I'm an intelligent guy, I should be able to take a hint, I can read the writing on the wall, I KNOW what I need to do I KNOW what is best....

I just can't get her out of my fucking head.
 
Lestat said:
I'm really surprised at myself at how much this is fucking with me, really. Its never happened before.

I appreciate everyone's responses, I say this all the time, but it helps.

I agree that in some respect, sending the letter, and then getting a flat out rejection or no response might be what I need to move on.. but like Becoming has said, I should be able to move on myself, I don't need her to continually slap me down, she's done it once or twice already... I'm a grown man, I'm an intelligent guy, I should be able to take a hint, I can read the writing on the wall, I KNOW what I need to do I KNOW what is best....

I just can't get her out of my fucking head.

Brian......tell me something, bro.

Looking back at the times you shared with her and the feelings you had for her, was she really all that and a bag of chips?

Was she really that great?

DIV

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alien amp pharm said:
How long after the breakup did you send the email?

It wasn't an email it was just a vmail that said that I didn't feel closure and still had unresolved feelings and wanted to go out to dinner or something just to talk things through. I'd kicked him out of our apartment and we hadn't seen each other at all in 4 months.

No regrets on it at all. We needed to break up. He needed to know that there was some BS in his life that I just didn't want in mine. I needed to sort out what I wanted. He needed to sort out what he wanted. But we couldn't have done that had we even been on speaking terms. We both would have sworn that we'd never see each other again.

Now things are amazing and peaceful....though counselling has helped with that along with a lot of sincere and difficult talks.
 
Raina said:
It wasn't an email it was just a vmail that said that I didn't feel closure and still had unresolved feelings and wanted to go out to dinner or something just to talk things through. I'd kicked him out of our apartment and we hadn't seen each other at all in 4 months.

No regrets on it at all. We needed to break up. He needed to know that there was some BS in his life that I just didn't want in mine. I needed to sort out what I wanted. He needed to sort out what he wanted. But we couldn't have done that had we even been on speaking terms. We both would have sworn that we'd never see each other again.

Now things are amazing and peaceful....though counselling has helped with that along with a lot of sincere and difficult talks.

Great story. Good luck in the marriage.
 
Raina said:
He needed to know that there was some BS in his life that I just didn't want in mine. I needed to sort out what I wanted. He needed to sort out what he wanted. But we couldn't have done that had we even been on speaking terms. We both would have sworn that we'd never see each other again.

Now things are amazing and peaceful....though counselling has helped with that along with a lot of sincere and difficult talks.

Now, at the heart of it all is the truth. You both really saw things in each other that you cherished and truly loved, all you had to do was clear away some of the extraneous bullshit that was littering the relationship.

The sincere and difficult talks are the most meaningful, Raina.

DIV

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Why are you asking us for advice? You are going to send it anyway no matter what we say.

Shit, go ahead and do it and be done with it.
 
alien amp pharm said:
Don't worry I'm not going to actually call,

PM me the number and I will call for you.

"Hey bitch, this is AAP with a message to you from aap. We need to go over a few things right here. First, find your place. Whereever it may be and get in it. Save me the few seconds it will take to put you there...in your place....next,...."
 
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AAP said:
Why are you asking us for advice? You are going to send it anyway no matter what we say.

Shit, go ahead and do it and be done with it.

Damn......you're a fucking harsh bitch, AAP...

Calm down, man.....


DIV

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The changes that we both made had to be made for ourselves. We couldn't change ourselves for the other person. We had to be apart to really figure out what we wanted and what we didn't want. Thankfully we both ended up on the same page...but each of our own decision without factoring in the other.

It's easy to be in a relationship when everything is peachy. I think going through hell and making thing work even when it's really challenging ends up with a more true level of happiness.
 
DIVISION said:
Damn......you're a fucking harsh bitch, AAP...

Calm down, man.....


DIV

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It's true... he is going to send it to her. Or try to type it all out in an IM conversation and she is going to fall asleep reading it. Her head is going to hit the keyboard making a

bghny bhng yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

streak for a total of 183 lines of text
 
Raina said:
The changes that we both made had to be made for ourselves. We couldn't change ourselves for the other person. We had to be apart to really figure out what we wanted and what we didn't want. Thankfully we both ended up on the same page...but each of our own decision without factoring in the other.

It's easy to be in a relationship when everything is peachy. I think going through hell and making thing work even when it's really challenging ends up with a more true level of happiness.

You are 100% correct, Raina.....

Couldn't have said it better, girl...

DIV

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AAP said:
It's true... he is going to send it to her. Or try to type it all out in an IM conversation and she is going to fall asleep reading it. Her head is going to hit the keyboard making a

bghny bhng yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

streak for a total of 183 lines of text

How do you know aap so well? Are you completely sure he's just wasting his time with this shit?

DIV

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DIVISION said:
Are you completely sure he's just wasting his time with this shit?

DIV

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It involves a woman.

Yeah, he's wasting his time.
 
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