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should bruce do tren.

should i run some tren ace at the end of my prop cycle here. ive never used it.

  • yes do it up, i didn't experience enough sides to make me drop it

    Votes: 62 69.7%
  • no it has too many sides

    Votes: 27 30.3%

  • Total voters
    89

Bruce

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on some prop/npp/and winny right now. should i throw in a bit of tren ace or what. i'm scared of it i have to admit but at the same time really want to try. what are some of the worst experiences you guys have had with it and please chime in if you didn't have sides. also i know how it makes you feel while on but are the gains keepable. thank you. i research as much as i can but i have to know from experience thats really all that matters to me. i am gonna start with like 50mg eod i think nothing high at all. i know how potent it is
 
bruce410 said:
on some prop/npp/and winny right now. should i throw in a bit of tren ace or what. i'm scared of it i have to admit but at the same time really want to try. what are some of the worst experiences you guys have had with it and please chime in if you didn't have sides. also i know how it makes you feel while on but are the gains keepable. thank you. i research as much as i can but i have to know from experience thats really all that matters to me. i am gonna start with like 50mg eod i think nothing high at all. i know how potent it is


i'm researching tren at the moment thinking of trying it in my next cycle probably 75mg eod. i also want to use npp as i've heard really good things about it. what's it like for you?
as for your question, i would leave tren out of this cycle and use it next time around.
 
npp is the shit, its fast acting deca, i get no sides from it or bloat. i love it man. the pumps and recovery are great from it just as with deca but it hits fast
 
bruce410 said:
npp is the shit, its fast acting deca, i get no sides from it or bloat. i love it man. the pumps and recovery are great from it just as with deca but it hits fast

you say no bloat, what ai are you using? just curious to know the effects of npp 1st hand.
 
Should the devil drink tequila? Fuck an A you should. It'd be like giving nitro to a thoroughbred racehorse. Really, though I think it would be an intense 5-6 weeks for you, but it would have an impact for sure. I use it 100 ed for 50 days and I'm always anxious to start and very anxious for it to end. My usual results are strength, 3=4 lbs increase, and lose an inch off my waist. And I eat like crazy.
 
I've read (here on EF) that you shouldn't use tren with deca (I think NPP counts as deca?) during the same cycle, because you might end up with to much prolactin, and a serious limp dick.
I've never used them together so I can't offer any 1st hand experience.
Hopefully someone with greater experience with tren/NPP will share their knowledge with you.
 
I would finish out your NPP then switch over to Tren ED @ 50mg instead of 50mg EOD.

...and hell yeah you should try Tren out.

BMJ
 
go for it. I'm on tren 75 mg ED at day 10. No bad sides to make me slow down or stop. I've had a few night "hot flashes", but nothing keeping me from a good nights sleep. Hopefully I'll be saying the same thing at day 28 :)
 
I've never really experienced too many sides from tren other than sweating at night. But I always have occasional night sweats anyways on and off gear. I'd recomend at least 75mgs eod. I just started npp almost 3 weeks ago and its very comparible in terms of strength and pump but I feel more like an animal at the gym with a little trenergy. Its my favorite form of gear but I don't include it with every cycle cause I want to experience the full effect everytime I cycle it. It also didn't really hinder me in the bedroom at all either.

You never know how good/bad it is before you take the plunge.
 
well right now npp does not do the deca dick to me, deca did trust me i know what it is. i run proviron with it and i never have a problem. npp is out of your system in days unlike deca and i am not worried about the limp dick. i run npp with just eq and proviron and get no libido issues
 
Also you may not need to run it eod or ed. One of my good friends was using it 2x per week along with moderate/low doses of other gear and won his ifbb pro-card at nationals06. The guy who told him to run it that way also guru'd 18 other people to their procard over the past few years and also works with other pro bb's and is also a highly ranked ifbb pro.
 
sounds very interesting. i love the van damme avi. i watched bloodsport the other night. "chong li is soft in da gut".....noooooooooooo"
 
alright i just got a hold of my ticket scalper, i'm taking the plunge into some trenny tren tren. time to find out for myself.
 
bruce410 said:
sounds very interesting. i love the van damme avi. i watched bloodsport the other night. "chong li is soft in da gut".....noooooooooooo"
I like when they do slow motion punches or kicks and there is the long bbbuuuuuuwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa as he hit him.

Or one of my fav lines from death warrant when he's interrogatin the inmate at the lab and he holds a cup of piss to the gut face and was like "Whats dis?" the guy was like "sodapop!" The Van Damme flips the lid off and was "your going to drink sodapop."

I used to think he was the baddest dude ever when I was 10.
 
dannomight said:
I like when they do slow motion punches or kicks and there is the long bbbuuuuuuwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa as he hit him.

Or one of my fav lines from death warrant when he's interrogatin the inmate at the lab and he holds a cup of piss to the gut face and was like "Whats dis?" the guy was like "sodapop!" The Van Damme flips the lid off and was "your going to drink sodapop."

I used to think he was the baddest dude ever when I was 10.

not a patch on arnie in commando though!
 
so did i at age 8-11. nuooooooooooooh. downt' due et.

hey so twice a week what are we talkin here. how did he dose it and what days did he inject on.
 
bruce410 said:
so did i at age 8-11. nuooooooooooooh. downt' due et.

hey so twice a week what are we talkin here. how did he dose it and what days did he inject on.
100mg tren ace along with 300mg eq on tue and fri
100mg prop eod
100mg masteron every m/w/f
50mg winny ed(oral or inj)
50mg proviron ed
50mg var ed
.5mg adex ed at night before bed.

That was his basic schedule with gear for his contest prep.
 
mattrich said:
not a patch on arnie in commando though!
I watched that the other day and tried to count how many guys he killed when he got on the island. I lost count at around 80 something.
 
awesome, i am running the prop right now, i'll throw in the tren. i am doing eq or primo in april. if i like the tren i'll run it like your boy did.
 
bruce fuck tren you dont need it plus with the npp tren will shut you down big time

just post your back workout :)
 
dannomight said:
100mg tren ace along with 300mg eq on tue and fri
100mg prop eod
100mg masteron every m/w/f
50mg winny ed(oral or inj)
50mg proviron ed
50mg var ed
.5mg adex ed at night before bed.

That was his basic schedule with gear for his contest prep.

so tren a is ok to inject every 3 days?
whats peoples opinions on this?
 
Go for it! The only thing I noticed is that it has made me into a complete Fkg a$$hole BUT OTHER THAN THAT i LOVE IT Making me real strong
 
dal022 said:
bruce fuck tren you dont need it plus with the npp tren will shut you down big time

just post your back workout :)
4 sets wide grip pull ups, i go for as many as i can on the first set. the second set i can get about half the last two i can only pump out a few but it really explodes the back, i feel it is like the flat bench of back excercizes. i then do 4 sets of one hand at a time lat pulldowns with a cable pulldown, just use the handle for crossovers and pull down extending your abs in a controlled motion and turning your hands out as you come down. then 4 sets of seated rows, i really only go for form on back not weight it means nothing if you want the cuts and width. then i go back and try and do parellel pull ups and do negs to burn it out. i really am just blessed as far as the back goes though man. i only wish i could get a chest to go with it. i think i'll be fine with the tren though on proviron. i dropped npp as i am basically out so i'm just on win and prop and proviron. i am gonna do it twice a week like my man danno suggested. a low dose and see how it goes, if it fucks with me my girl is cool with it and its ace so i'll be good to go
 
Yeah if you have not tried tren yet, you gotta do it. It is at the top of my list of favorites. Its gets you so hard and strong and even if you are not very strict on your diet and stray more than often, it really does not seem to effect you much. We all know your bf is low now so you may not notice a great difference, but a lot of us its just simply amazing.

I've done a lot of tren and what works best for me is ED injects. The sides that I get are bad night sweats and after a while I get terrible insomnia, but its worth it in the end.
 
mattrich said:
what about sides. are they any worse when injected e3days?
My guy told me sides were minimal. Personally I don't get a lot of sides from gear other that size, strength, and a little aggression. I think the theory behind this was a little bit of several compounds can go a long way.
 
dannomight said:
100mg tren ace along with 300mg eq on tue and fri
100mg prop eod
100mg masteron every m/w/f
50mg winny ed(oral or inj)
50mg proviron ed
50mg var ed
.5mg adex ed at night before bed.

That was his basic schedule with gear for his contest prep.
danno how long did he run of each my friend
 
Bruce my man,
what up nugga, just wanted to chime in cause when you have threads i like to says what the fuck is up!
Fuck man I have no experience with tren so i didnt vote, but with you bro, you like shit that is good steady gains with no bloat....primo, EQ, var, Masteron, Npp, prop,,,etc....anyway I think fuckin tren would be great in there. But instead of going 50mg eod I would say as little as 25mg ed would be better you know? to keep the levels stable... that way you will sleep better and not have as many sides...are you acne prone my man?
Peace!
 
no not that prone to acne, just small bumps on my chest if i don't scrub. we'll see about ed i'd much prefer to do it twice a week, danno's boy that did that has the physique of a national bber
 
I would not run NPP and Tren together - And I would not run one right after the other in a cycle. I did it once - NPP for 6 weeks then Tren Ace for 6 week - Worked well - no issues.

So I repeated it a year later - around week 9 I got gyno (Major puffyness and soreness). Now luckely I had Dostinex and Letro on hand and with Macro's help I knocked it out, but of course I had to drop the tren.

I am going to Run a Test/Tren/Winny cycle starting in about a week. I am running dostinex and Aromasin throughout. Hopefully it was just too much Nandrolone last time, and the tren alone wont cause issues this time.

I love tren - It is my favorite - But I would not run it in the same cycle as any other nandrolone.
 
black sheep said:
I would not run NPP and Tren together - And I would not run one right after the other in a cycle. I did it once - NPP for 6 weeks then Tren Ace for 6 week - Worked well - no issues.

So I repeated it a year later - around week 9 I got gyno (Major puffyness and soreness). Now luckely I had Dostinex and Letro on hand and with Macro's help I knocked it out, but of course I had to drop the tren.

I am going to Run a Test/Tren/Winny cycle starting in about a week. I am running dostinex and Aromasin throughout. Hopefully it was just too much Nandrolone last time, and the tren alone wont cause issues this time.

I love tren - It is my favorite - But I would not run it in the same cycle as any other nandrolone.
I had a buddy a month ago tell me I was full of shit about mixing tren and deca. Then 2 days ago he calls me and tells me his drill seargent has no interest at standing at attention. The worst thing though is that I wasn't the only one who told him.
 
Why is everybody afraid to run this compound ED?

Running it E3D as opposed to ED is sort of like buying a Ferrari and only going 55mph in it.

You do not have to do entirely high doses of tren to get an effect from it, but if you are gonna do it, then do it right. That's like taking one 200mg shot of Eq every 3 weeks.

BMJ
 
MR. BMJ said:
Why is everybody afraid to run this compound ED?

Running it E3D as opposed to ED is sort of like buying a Ferrari and only going 55mph in it.

You do not have to do entirely high doses of tren to get an effect from it, but if you are gonna do it, then do it right. That's like taking one 200mg shot of Eq every 3 weeks.

BMJ

I used to run EOD - Last time I did ed with better results and less sides. This time I am using Enath at 400mg a week. I will just start with Tren ace at 100mg ed for 6 days, then 4 days at 75mg ed, and 4 at 50mg ED.

I agree about the Ferrari comment - I would never consider e3d with Ace.
 
npp is the shit, its fast acting deca, i get no sides from it or bloat. i love it man. the pumps and recovery are great from it just as with deca but it hits fast


NPP is more like Flintstone Vitamins compared to tren.

Do 50mg a day, not every other day, and don’t worry about the sides.


If you own a gun, give to someone for about 6 weeks, just to be safe.
 
I can't comment on the tren. but bruce, I just want to point out that the advice given to top IFBB pro's with more genetic potiential than a bunch of us combined is far different from what we'd probably need to get similar results.

I do hear once you go tren, you never go back :evil: ... unless you get back sides, lol
 
i would try it if i were u. tren ace 50ED. IMO definately enough, especially for 1st time. no longer than 6-8 weeks. i did it 3X. i'm done though. the prostate issues #1 for me. i can't stand pissing every 30 minutes 24/7, literally. pushing to piss, feeling like i have a marble caught in my urethra. also i rage and act mean to everyone. i'm a dick on it...but i look good. it's a hard decision but in my old age i weigh my options and benefits:detriments, and i come to the conclusion that at age 32, married, w/ a son, i don't need anymore tren...i don't think. :chomp:
 
hanibal said:
i would try it if i were u. tren ace 50ED. IMO definately enough, especially for 1st time. no longer than 6-8 weeks. i did it 3X. i'm done though. the prostate issues #1 for me. i can't stand pissing every 30 minutes 24/7, literally. pushing to piss, feeling like i have a marble caught in my urethra. also i rage and act mean to everyone. i'm a dick on it...but i look good. it's a hard decision but in my old age i weigh my options and benefits:detriments, and i come to the conclusion that at age 32, married, w/ a son, i don't need anymore tren...i don't think. :chomp:
Try some saw palmetto. Thats supposed to help with ur prostate.
 
I have heard of running it only every 3 days before and heard of good results, it doesnt make much sense to me and your levels will be all over the board compared to everyday shots. I have only ran it ed and sides have been different every time, they seemed to have gotten less and less with each run but the night sweats are the major problem with me, and some gyno off and on that I have learned personally that running nolva with the tren from start to finish keeps it in check. I have had hard painful lumps a couple times that I honestly thought would need surgery but running high doses of nolva for a few weeks make the lumps completely disappear, they are probably still there but I cant feel them and have no pain thankgod. I will run tren again in the future, only with nolva, but when I do it will be ed, 50mg works well for me as well as others, cant really notice a difference between 50ed and 100ed, except night sweats are a lot worse.
 
black sheep said:
I used to run EOD - Last time I did ed with better results and less sides. This time I am using Enath at 400mg a week. I will just start with Tren ace at 100mg ed for 6 days, then 4 days at 75mg ed, and 4 at 50mg ED.

I agree about the Ferrari comment - I would never consider e3d with Ace.

yeah this was my point in running it ed...cause of less sides and if it is your first run on tren then i would be great to minimize sides.
 
Hey Bruce, it's been awhile bro. I know you've been around long enough to have heard all the tren horror stories but I think the benfits far outway the risks. For me personally I experience absolutely no sides while on tren. I don't even have the night sweats or aggression problems. Just do it bro.
 
I skimmed past the last few repsonses, so forgive me if I missed it, but what about Tren E? or since everyone's so gung ho on the ed injects, how about reducing the dosage and doing ed?
 
Hey 410 what's up? I prolly can't tell you anything you don't already know.....insomnia, night sweats...thats the two only sides that i experience. Other than that, shit is awesome, right up there with suspension as far as producing notable gains in the here and now. I do like the parabolan idea, 100mg every 3-4 days. This produces the same results as ace with lesser sides. pm me for anything bro.
 
Tren is the shit. I did have my first case of insomnia last night but oh well. I get so jacked when I am in the gym I get chills. It makes you hard as hell too. I dont know if I will ever run a cycle without it man. And Im a fatty it be killer for you bro.

Back lookin swole as hell by the way!
 
on my first cycle with Tren right now. doing 525mg supertest, 600mg EQ, 560mg tren ace a week

.8cc's of tren ED. I started out at 100mg EOD but I bumped it up and have no looked back since. YOu will get some night sweats, I have not had a drenching pouring of sweat but I will wake swaety. I have lost some nice BF% on this cycle. I am up 8lbs in 6 weeks with zero water retention and never looked better. The body fat% loss and strength is amazing. Good luck man!
 
ok i'm getting my tren soon here. what dose do you guys think i should start at. i am gonna most likely start with eod shots and see how the sides are. i think i might go with 50mg eod just to start. 75mg eod is the most i would do. if i did do it ed it would have to be like 25-30mg ed and see how i sleep and what not. machine good to know nolva worked for you too, when i got deca gyno its the only thing that cured it with some winny, now for some reason there is some argument that nolva will make it worse which is not the case. i guess i'm just gonna have a bunch of nolva on hand. i might just make the cycle i'm on right now in week 4 just a 6 weeker and start fresh 8 weeks or so after this one. we shall see, i know i am gonna wanna shoot it the second i get it. i'm getting eo pro form acetate so i can put it thru a slin pin if needed making ed not such a big deal.
 
bruce410 said:
npp is the shit, its fast acting deca, i get no sides from it or bloat. i love it man. the pumps and recovery are great from it just as with deca but it hits fast


you like it better than EQ Bruce? you have always swore by EQ
 
Do it Bruce, it's good stuff. I would drop the NPP though. The only sides I had with tren were night sweats and a feeling of pure domination everywhere I went.
 
Hey Bruce,

I did not read the whole thread, but I just started it almost 2 weeks ago.

First time with Tren A (or any tren)

im running 50mg/ed with my test and eq. not bad sides, just night sweats and a little more aggression than normal

honostly, i would not run less than 50mg/ed. I might bump mine up to 75mg/ed
 
mattrich said:
whats the pain like after injecting tren? also what pin will it flow through? 25, 27?
less pain than anyother gear for me.

mine flows through 25ga easy, i could prob use 27ga if i wanted. mine is made with EO. so it probably matters what brand you are running
 
bruce410 said:
ok i'm getting my tren soon here. what dose do you guys think i should start at. i am gonna most likely start with eod shots and see how the sides are. i think i might go with 50mg eod just to start. 75mg eod is the most i would do. if i did do it ed it would have to be like 25-30mg ed and see how i sleep and what not. machine good to know nolva worked for you too, when i got deca gyno its the only thing that cured it with some winny, now for some reason there is some argument that nolva will make it worse which is not the case. i guess i'm just gonna have a bunch of nolva on hand. i might just make the cycle i'm on right now in week 4 just a 6 weeker and start fresh 8 weeks or so after this one. we shall see, i know i am gonna wanna shoot it the second i get it. i'm getting eo pro form acetate so i can put it thru a slin pin if needed making ed not such a big deal.


You really can stick the tren IM with a slin pin? Are you sure that will go deep enough into the muscle? If so that'd be great!
 
Absolutely do that Tren my boy. I love it. I don't like sweating like a pig while I'm sleeping, but other than that, it's kewl. I would watch for gyno symptoms and then drop the NPP if anything develops.
 
I just started my upteenth (probably my 5th or 6th actually) tren/prop cycle. 75 mg each eod. Which makes for roughly 525mg total per week. I love it. Low, low sides- crazy ass dreams though. And results depend on what I do for food. It's versital (sp?).


Jacob
 
jronimoe15 said:
you like it better than EQ Bruce? you have always swore by EQ
i love eq bro, i will run it again in april if i don't try out primo. npp is different i mean its fast acting and it can have sides i assume, i would never run it for 20 weeks like i would eq. that is what i love about eq, i ran it at 800mg ew for 17 weeks with just proviron as needed and i recovered in a cinch
 
Vascular Freak said:
You really can stick the tren IM with a slin pin? Are you sure that will go deep enough into the muscle? If so that'd be great!
yes eo npp,prop, and tren are all able to go thru a slin pin. if you go in the delt especially at single digit bf i am fine, i do my eo prop eo npp suspension winny and all that in the delt with a slin pin
 
marshallmadman said:
Absolutely do that Tren my boy. I love it. I don't like sweating like a pig while I'm sleeping, but other than that, it's kewl. I would watch for gyno symptoms and then drop the NPP if anything develops.
will do for sure, npp was dropped over a week ago. it shouldn't pose a problem, i'm giving the liver and kidneys a rest right now with the win, when i get my tren i will throw it back in. for right now just prop and proviron and lovin it. i just can't run test without proviron that is what i learned. i don't have a favorite man when there is npp, eq, primo all that out there and now i am gonna try tren and love it. i think i would say eq is my top choice if i could only have one cause i can run it alone at high doses for long periods of time side free with great results. i mean how much more can you ask for
 
wierd.... we're running the same cycle and I am dropping my npp and running tren as soon as it gets here.... wierd
 
bruce410 said:
yes eo npp,prop, and tren are all able to go thru a slin pin. if you go in the delt especially at single digit bf i am fine, i do my eo prop eo npp suspension winny and all that in the delt with a slin pin


Good to know, I will be trying that fo sho :)
 
My shoulders hurt from reading about Bruce pinning his delts! How long does that leave you sore bro?? I'm sure lots of people go in there but damn its gotta hurt.
 
bro not long at all. the prop npp don't even hurt the next day. its my fav place. the suspension will sting a bit the next day but it never bothers me. ive had pbl winny that i cannot handle in my delt i'm not superman.

sources say that i am going to be getting primo instead of tren right now, but tren is coming soon don't worry beach
 
bruce410 said:
bro not long at all. the prop npp don't even hurt the next day. its my fav place. the suspension will sting a bit the next day but it never bothers me. ive had pbl winny that i cannot handle in my delt i'm not superman.

sources say that i am going to be getting primo instead of tren right now, but tren is coming soon don't worry beach

Yeah, my source is saying the same thing... I'm just hoping I can add it in time for the end of my Eq/Test cycle. Well, I guess if I have to extend it to 20 or 30 weeks to fit the Tren in then so be it... :qt: he he
 
shit i didnt' know ticket scalpers were that strapped for the tren show. i guess i will be waiting for it
 
"i move when my heart say move..fierce like a lion...got nothing to prove...stubborn as a hot damn mule, god in my corner, nigga can't lose.... try and take me out my goddamn shoes... see how quick i jump up and give you bitches the blues..they gonna see you on the goddamn news...beatin these niggas down is what i came to do...and i ain't playin by the goddamn rules."

Bruce you listen to this at the gym.....I sure as hell do....gets me fired up, bluried eyed and ready to wreak havoc on the iron!
 
well according to my scalper, primo is coming to me as a gift so i can't turn that down, with the primo there is some tren but not much, enough to finish a few weeks of this cycle. i'll get an idea of it i like it before i really stock up on it. yes VF i love that song for getting pumped.
 
Damnit Bruce.....hurry up already and start pinning that shit.....your leaving us hanging hear.....I am planning my spring cycle and need to know if tren will be flooding my veins or not! haha
 
bro i can buy my own tren, its just a hot item right now. i can only get the prop tren blend, i like to tailor my own doses but i'll get an idea. to make up for it i'm getting a grip of primo while i wait so i'm not gonna complain. i'll hit the tren up hopefully tuesday fellas.
 
Vascular Freak said:
beachstud: you at the 200 lb marker yet? That cycle should be hittin like a pimp on a slut by now?

Like a pimp on a slut. LMFAO...

Nah, I'm just pushing 185 now. I haven't gained a whole lot of weight on Eq. I'm only up about 8-9 lbs. I've got some NPP and thought about throwing that in...

Problem is, I'm going to Australia in about a month and I want to be shredded, not the michelin man, so I'm trying to stay lean.

Also, I have been getting wwwwhhhaaayy too many comments about how big I've gotten at work, friends, family, etc. Remember, I was 20 lbs. lighter only a year ago!! Another 20 and my friends would probably stage an intervention!
 
bruce410 said:
bro i can buy my own tren, its just a hot item right now. i can only get the prop tren blend, i like to tailor my own doses but i'll get an idea. to make up for it i'm getting a grip of primo while i wait so i'm not gonna complain. i'll hit the tren up hopefully tuesday fellas.

is your tren/prop blend from Proform?
 
Tren is my new best friend. Sides are more than managable. I only get a little bit of a tight chest at random times throughout the day, usually once maybe twice. It's not bad and i'm speaking with a lifetime history of asthma also. Nighttime sleep in a cool enviorment and if you do end up with a little bit of a sleeping problem try 3mg Melatonin pills from you health food store.

I started using Melatonin EOD to help sleep and now i'm fine. I think it's because i leave everything i have in the gym and on off days a low carb diet works wondering in ending the day on a cool calm note. 52_21_30 had also commented on another thread to cut carbs out later in the day due to thermogenesis and night sweating. It has helped me out nicely.




DLine
 
Remember with tren esp ace that you may get a coughing attack. But you probably already know you gotta cough to get off.
 
dannomight said:
Remember with tren esp ace that you may get a coughing attack. But you probably already know you gotta cough to get off.

HOLLY FUGGIN SHIT DANNOMIGHT!!! Is that how you look? Fuckin' fantastic. Really impressive. I'd PM you but that'd be gay. You really live up to your reputation. Well done.
 
beachstud said:
HOLLY FUGGIN SHIT DANNOMIGHT!!! Is that how you look? Fuckin' fantastic. Really impressive. I'd PM you but that'd be gay. You really live up to your reputation. Well done.


homo :rainbow:

lol
 
beachstud said:
HOLLY FUGGIN SHIT DANNOMIGHT!!! Is that how you look? Fuckin' fantastic. Really impressive. I'd PM you but that'd be gay. You really live up to your reputation. Well done.
You can PM me just don't do it for weiner pics just simple advice.
 
DANNO and BEACH bruce just shot tren, hitting the gym now, i'll be back on later. no coughing or anything. i started with 37.5mg, i'm gonna do that ed maybe bump up slowly. we'll see how it goes tonight.
 
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