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SHORT CYCLE - Update (week 1)

nadr7891

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compounds/dosages used along with beginning stats are in my signature below.

i'm actually just past one week and i'm up 9 pounds at an even 200. most of this came in the first 5 days! strange thing is i don't feel bloated at all, not like last time i did test when i really felt swollen (liked it). the weight has got to be largely water, but again, i don't feel bloated. another contributing factor is my food intake; i've upped my calories by at least 30% from pre-cycle. i'm eating everything often. my waist, however, has stayed the same and perhaps even gotten smaller.

i haven't noticed any strength gains yet but they can't be far off. leg day is 3 days away, i'm sure i'll notice it then. stamina seems better in the gym but this could be placebo. recovery is definitely better. i'm hardly sore and training like an animal.

libido is crazy. i've decided to drop the Propecia since i've had no shedding and i don't want anything to affect strength on such a short cycle. i'll use it post-cycle.
 
tigerdirect said:
what a waste of primo and var your cycle sucks
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Geez bro, I think Primo@400mg., and Var@45mg. ED is a sufficient dose. Whats wrong with it "in your eyes"?

(I say "in your eyes" because there is absolutely nothing wrong with it whatsoever)
 
well peopel obviously you didn't read this is for a 3 week cycle. whats the point of using var which doesn't really do much untily ou used it for over 4 weeks and primo won;t really kick in for 4-5 weeeks sow hats the point of using it for a 3 weeker? just a waste of $$ the prop dbol or winny if fine for 3 week
 
tigerdirect said:
well peopel obviously you didn't read this is for a 3 week cycle. whats the point of using var which doesn't really do much untily ou used it for over 4 weeks and primo won;t really kick in for 4-5 weeeks sow hats the point of using it for a 3 weeker? just a waste of $$ the prop dbol or winny if fine for 3 week
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well lets see has put on nine pounds in about 5 days. Wouldn't it be prudent to hold comments on whether it sucked or not depending on how much weight he loses retains post cycle? What if he is doing it for health reasons? a cycle is built around someones goals not what other people think it should be.
 
well lets see he's using prop and dbol which would account for that poundage increase. you think the primo has done anything for him yet? not and var probably hasn't kicked in yet the dbol and prop is doing the work thast why he should of just let the primo and var out and save them together for a longer cycle
 
anavar kicks in like any other oral. I am not sure why people insist on stating the longer cycles are necessary. the only reason would be that it is a milder oral as compared to dbol which will hold more water. primo I don't know a lot about as far as gains and what to expect as I have never used it so I cannot claim knowledge about it. and I will still state that we should wait until is PCT is complete to pass judgement on him.
 
dude nevermind your missing the point. First I said his cycle sucked not him. and I already stated why b/c of primo and var. granted var kics in maybe in a week but you realyl won't see anything way pass that. should use it for atleast 6 weeks from experience. Primo is like eq won;t kick in for 4 weeks give or take so your wasting it for a 3 week cycle thast all i was sayign the pro and dbol is good for 3 weeker and will work obviously he gained 9 lbs from them both. but this short week cycle from what i seen and read not from experience yeah you gain weight but your strenght doesn't really go far compared to a longer cycle and you will mostly loose the weight.
 
tigerdirect said:
dude nevermind your missing the point. First I said his cycle sucked not him. and I already stated why b/c of primo and var. granted var kics in maybe in a week but you realyl won't see anything way pass that. should use it for atleast 6 weeks from experience. Primo is like eq won;t kick in for 4 weeks give or take so your wasting it for a 3 week cycle thast all i was sayign the pro and dbol is good for 3 weeker and will work obviously he gained 9 lbs from them both. but this short week cycle from what i seen and read not from experience yeah you gain weight but your strenght doesn't really go far compared to a longer cycle and you will mostly loose the weight.
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1. I never said that you said "he sucked". Not sure where you got that from.
2. the POINT is that a cycle is as good as its results. and what the user hopes to achieve. what if he is only looking for a 2-4 pound muscle gain?
3. I will grant you one point on the number of compounds he is using. It probably would have been better to use just the prop and var. to begin with and see where that brought him.
 
It does not take 4-5 weeks for primo to "kick in" as you stated earlier. One thing is for sure Primo may yield better results on a longer cycle, but it may be used with a short cycle if a person has the money to spend. Primo is not my choice for a 3 week cycle, but to each his own. I would have just used the var not dbol +var+primo+test, again to each his own.
If you get good results, and your hpta is not affected, and you are happy... then your cycle doesn't suck.

Keep us posted on the rest of your gains and post cycle.
 
I think I know what you trying to do with the primo, but its prob would have been a better idea to go without it, and just stick to the much shorter acting compounds

just me 2 cents.......
 
although i dont agree with the way tiger went about his response i do agree with him that this cycle could be alot better..

like he said primo is not a good drug to use for a short cycle, i also would up the dbol
 
tigerdirect said:
well peopel obviously you didn't read this is for a 3 week cycle. whats the point of using var which doesn't really do much untily ou used it for over 4 weeks and primo won;t really kick in for 4-5 weeeks sow hats the point of using it for a 3 weeker? just a waste of $$ the prop dbol or winny if fine for 3 week
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When, oh when, will this myth die?

Steroids do not take 4-5 weeks to "kick in". They are effective immediately. Orals are simply a more powerful, shorter acting version.

Even in the face of RESULTS, people will argue the validy of the short cycle concept. It makes no sense.

Congrats on the cycle nadr.
 
NM, of course i agree with you that AAS are "working" immediately but at the same time there are some steroids that are better used for short cycles(dbol, drol, suspension, prop,etc)
while others such as deca and primo are better for longer cycles 6+ weeks..
 
i use primo in short cycles and can definately tell a difference within a week. i've used primo ONLY, so i can say that it is the only chemical making the difference. it was with a nice little frontload though.
 
i appreciate all of the comments.

tigerdirect:
you might be right... or wrong. i fully expected some comments like yours.

this is an experiment for me. the thinking is that if i can gain 4-5 keepable pounds in a 3-week cycle without negatively affecting hpta, to me that's better than 8-10 pounds on a 10-12 week cycle where i have to worry a lot more about side effects and recovery. furthermore, the short duration gives me the opportunity to use more androgenic compounds (test, d-bol) that i don't want to use for extended periods of 4-10 weeks. it's not worth the risk for my current goals. but, like everything else goals can change. :)
 
Goodluck bro. Personally I would use short acting gear because your 3 week cycle is really a 5 weeker because you can't start post cycle therapy till two weeks after your last shot becasue of the primo.
 
nadr7891 said:
i appreciate all of the comments.

this is an experiment for me. the thinking is that if i can gain 4-5 keepable pounds in a 3-week cycle without negatively affecting hpta, to me that's better than 8-10 pounds on a 10-12 week cycle where i have to worry a lot more about side effects and recovery. it's not worth the risk for my current goals. :)
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Well said
 
Aside from the abrasive approach, I think TigerDirect is right about the primo and anavar. Short cycles should be fast acting drugs.
 
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