well I think all the talk is wasted breath, the only way its gonna change is if somebody puts joe weider in the room and repeatedly tells him to quit suckin all the judges dicks and payin them off, and each time he denies or says what are you talkin about, and blames the sport, a guy needs to take 10 hard and swift punches to his kidneys, till he either dies or vows to quit fuckin the whole world of bodybuilding and truly make it into a sport where, when a guy gets his pro card he is signed on and gets paid one million dollars with a 250,000 dollar signing bonus, just like all the other pro sports, then this would weed out alot of bullshit fag and drug industry shit......and then all pros would be on a more equal playing field........cause the newer pros would, with the money have a better chance to equal the drug use of the experienced pros..................flex wheeler even said, the bb industry is because of one evil person who has a hold on the sport, and that is joe W...............think about it, this example tells it all.............why when dave draper was in it, joe didnt pay him shit, and made him work in the wharehouses and work his ass for nothing and not even getting payed, and joe used him in all the mags and for publicity, but when arnold came around he got payed by joe, and he had to do no work whatsoever........fastforward to today, joe is still pulling all the bs he was back then..........its just now he can hide it better and get away with more cause he has so much monney.