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Shaq on Roids?

jjr

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Do you think Shaq is on the Juice? Look at pictures of him just 5 years ago. He has put on at least 100lbs +. What do you think?
 
shaq on roids

It's hard to say cause he eats like a horse all the time and he is 7'0 ft, I do't think so because is physique, he is just a thick dude, you know. but you never know now and days, maybe maybe not. I still wouldn't take acharge from him ha ha.

FC
 
Nope...also shaq hasn't but on 100 pounds in 5yrs....at most 20pounds...he was like 290 as a rookie...he's around 310-315
 
I have been searching old photos of shaq when he was with Orlando, damn he was kind of thin...but hmm I don't think so.
 
ha ha

Shaq was more than 303 when he enetered the league and is more than his listed 320 today. The reports are he is closer to 380. Shaq. when he entered the league in 92' was really about 320,but had no gut. Now he has a gut.

All those combo meals will catch up to those knees.

Shack wants his sour dough hamburgers, not juice!!
 
Definately NOT!
sorry to say everyone...but the NBA tests for steroids so i doubt that shaq is juicing. He is garbage.
 
oh, that bit about him being garbage...
Here in Sacramento we don't think all that highly of the big man. (after this season at least)
 
I think he has definitly taken something and he was only 260 when he entered the NBA. He is now around 360 to but when he was 260 he had a good bf now he is fat.
 
shaq roids, my ass!

It's already been said but, just in case,

Happen to be in LA and know some of the management. NO roids, my friends. They test. Also, our boy is actually 380-385 now. Not even close to 285-310. He's simply a freak of nature.
 
Definately NOT!
sorry to say everyone...but the NBA tests for steroids so i doubt that shaq is juicing. He is garbage

sorry b-legit...you are a cool guy but that is a dumb comment. it is easy as hell to pass some juice test..especially with the money he has.
 
Re: shaq roids, my ass!

stealth said:
It's already been said but, just in case,

Happen to be in LA and know some of the management. NO roids, my friends. They test. Also, our boy is actually 380-385 now. Not even close to 285-310. He's simply a freak of nature.

Like they'd tell you if they knew if he juiced anyway. :rolleyes:
 
nugga please

that mofo is at least 350, and riods no...but never say never
 
Can you say: 3 PEAT FOR THE PURPLE & GOLD!!!!!!!

P.S. Don't worry SAC-TOWN. Being the SECOND bets team in the NBA is cool :D :D
 
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tzan said:
Can you say: 3 PEAT FOR THE PURPLE & GOLD!!!!!!!

P.S. Don't worry SAC-TOWN. Being the SECOND bets team in the NBA is cool :D :D


:finger: Damn refs! There should have never been a game 7.
 
Whether he is or he isn't, he's just one big mother fucker! I bet if you guys had your own in house personal chef, you'd gain 40lb. on each of your cycles guaranteed. When he first entered the NBA he was 300lb. and relatively thin, now he's thick as holy hell. I'm guessing in the 370lb. range...remember when Barkeley was listed at 260lb. when he finished his career, then later said he was over 300lb. on his last game. All the NBA guys have inflated heights and deflated weights.
 
I believe it is the July issue of Sports Illustrated that stated that Shaq is currently listed as 330lbs. but weighed in prior to playoffs at 380+. They attributed some of his weight gain to his "foot condition" which has sidelined him for some of the season and prevents him from doing some of his cardio...
 
When you're 7'1", "320-380" (LOL) you can pretty much do what you want, especially on the court.

Other centers are taller than him. They need to be eating some of those "Shaq packs" as well. You cant be a dominate force when you're 6'11", 225. I'd say Shaq doesnt juice, but if I was one of the smaller centers around the league, I'd definitely be doing it in the off-season to try to get to around 300. Bigger people and people who arent scared have less trouble with Shaq. For those that think he sucks, despite the weaknesses in his game (many big men have similar weaknesses) he has done everything he needs to do already. Won championships, MVP awards, etc. Not to mention he's got a mansion and multiple cars paid for and has enough money he never has to do a thing again. Now its just stackin up those chips and trophies and shooting for records.
 
He deeeeefinitely juices... most of those guys do...they play game after game after game with such high intensity. Think about how many calories Shaq burns during a whole game. That dude is BIG... he must consume a TON of calories to keep his energy up. No doubt he juices..especially with all that strength.


YOU KNOW... I wonder how much he takes? I mean I highly doubt that 30mg of Dbol with 400mg of Deca will do anything for him... He at leaasst has to take 1 gram of test to feel something.
 
if you guys watched a post game newconferences Shaq said he was weighing in at about 335...he was 285 his rookie year...i have his rookie card.......the Nets big men said they think shaq is closer to 350-360 range....all i know is i would want to guard him
 
Is it just me, or, is his mouth constantly open; he looks like his face is paralyzed. He looks like a big, goofy, mo'fo. He needs to "back that ass up".
 
I heard that in college Shaq was 6'0" and weighed 160 lbs, now 7'1" 350+ lbs. That's because he discovered IP. I talked to Shaq personally and he said he can afford any type of roid he wants but he only takes IP because it's the best.
 
B-legit said:
Definately NOT!
sorry to say everyone...but the NBA tests for steroids so i doubt that shaq is juicing. He is garbage.


the NFL test for steroids also----so I your view, its safe to say no one in the NFL uses gear either

The only ones using gear in bodybuilders ok guys-----sorry guys but professional sports are rampade with gear(and growth hormone for the older players)----its not a big deal------if johnny down the road whats to use gear to look good for the ladies, they why in the world wouldn't a top level athlete use something to make him more millions-----It called the dirty little secrete guys

As a person ages growth hormone levels and test levels drop----why is it today in top level sports the older player is in the best shape of their lives---this isn't hard to figure out-----

and all natty 35 year old player regardless of what he is doing in the weight room is not going to be able to hang with the 25 year old doing the same thing in the weight room----hence is where drugs come into play more then ever

by the way whoever said shaq was 5% bodyfat should get off these boards or at the very least wake the fuck up---5% bodyfat is ripped glute guys------sQaq has never been under 10% bodyfat-----Carl Malone a few years back was in the best shape of his life(funny it would be well into his 30s to get their)and Malone was lean but not close to 5%bodyfat---so Sqaq was leaner then malone----some of these statements are funny as hell
 
If you guys have seen some pro--hockey players phys--with no shirt on, you could better understand where drugs are pro-sports------
Their are many female tennis players using gear today----so if anyone thinks that a pro basketball player doesn't have a clue about gear and growth hormone then some of you are no better off in knowledge the the armchair quarterbacks wife.....good luck with that-----
 
Wombat hit it right on the head. To say that NBA players don't juice is a bunch of crap or your very nieve person just because they "test." They are like any other professional athletes in the NFL, NHL, etc..and are always looking for that edge.

Ash
 
I don't know, but if he doesn't could you imagine him on 1 gram of test/week and 100mg fina/ed?

That's a scary thought

You could probobly use the pellet gun for the implants on him. He is as big as a cow!
 
belly24 said:
Nope...also shaq hasn't but on 100 pounds in 5yrs....at most 20pounds...he was like 290 as a rookie...he's around 310-315

#1 who are you

#2 shaq has put on 64 pounds

#3 he is 340 right now

.........oh and he was not 290 as a rookie
peace

MAC
 
Holy shit, so much misinformation...most if not all pro sport players juice... that's a fact. When making millions of dollars depends on your performance, you'd be an idiot not to juice.

Steroids do not necessarily lead to a good bodybuilding physique. That depends on how much/and what you eat and how you are training. Some of you can't seem to grasp this simple notion.
 
well living in LA and following the lakers, at the first of the season shaq was not in shape at all and was thinner than usual, but now that the season has ended, during the playoffs he was much larger and anything is possible, but I bet he is just natural, and can gain weight like a Mofo, shaq weighs about 380, and hell he might juice, why wouldnt he, he would just be that much better than everyone, hell jordan juiced, look at pippen today compared to his chicago years, back then deca and winstrol werent illegal to take in the NBA.......so hey anything is possible.
 
Look...even if they do test for roids there not gonna say anything if its one of the top players that get caught...top players bring crowds...crowds=money....NBA is a corporation...corporations want to make money...they would never ever stop shaq from playing
 
Hey, you Sacramento folks, this L.A. guy wants to thank you for such an exciting series of games with the Lakers. The Kings played brilliantly and the final result could easily have gone either way.

If only the games with the Nets were as exciting as the ones with Sacramento! A lot of us here in L.A. are saying the games with the Kings were the REAL play-off.

Your team rocks, my friends! In fact, I hope you go to the finals next year. We've done it enough times in a row. After seeing the Kings play, there is no question they deserve it every bit as much as the Lakers.
 
B-legit said:
Definately NOT!
sorry to say everyone...but the NBA tests for steroids so i doubt that shaq is juicing. He is garbage.

Ya, and football players don't use them either. For that fact neither do Olympians. LMFAO
 
supernav said:
sheesh people. :)

i used to work at espn, and used to travell all across the country with sports teams, stayed in the same hotels, drove them to games, drank with them, partied, etc. etc.

the truth:

MOST NBA players do NOT take steroids. Do NOT take them. Playing basketball is a VERY exhaustive sport. With increased body mass w/o the heart/lungs developed to handle it, most of them would be out of breath in 15 mins. That's why you never see LD runners taking steroids. You have to run your ASS off from one side to another, and your career would be over pretty damn quick if you stopped to catch your breath midway through. Most BB players are pretty skinny if you look. Plus coaches do a damn good job instilling in their heads that steroids will hurt them more than benefit them. And considering the cardio skills of some "juiced" guys i've seen -- i believe them.

No football and baseball guys -- that's WHOOOLEEEE different story. hehe. :)

Oh and some NHL players take 'roids, but same story. It's very exhaustive, and most quit after they realize how quick out of breath they are.

remember: key to BB and Hockey is SPEED and SKILL. Gaining 30lbs of muscle in your arms and chest isn't going to do you didly squat. This ain't swinging a bat in baseball.

-= nav =-

your comments on being out of breath is laughable(sorry but had to say it)
I had friends for more then 15 years --hell they have even let me fuck their girlfriends in front of them---but when it came to what exactly they were putting into their bodies, it was hard pressed to get the truth out of them:)
So what your saying is these top athletes were going to talk straight to someone that works at ESPN---Just because you partied with them---Doesn't work that way----Sorry but growth hormone and other drugs are rampade in the NBA--You can say what you will--but over 30year old athletes don't gain muscle-speed-strength--that they didn't have when they were younger without help-----peace
 
Wombat said:


your comments on being out of breath is laughable


Remember watching me try to walk around the gym when I was 270 pounds? Everyone thought I just got done doing cardio but I was just adding plates to the bench. :drink2:
 
You guys work in an office and sit on your ass all day and you guys juice. These guys are TOP athletes that play almost every day, look for endorsements, look to make more money, break records. etc. but they don't juice?!? This is rediculous...Juice is basically made for athletes!! NOT civilians!

And about the part about being exhausted from roids I'm sure that they're not looking to gain THAT much...but if they do I'm sure it would be off season and they'd have trainers right by them making sure everything is on the up and up.
 
NFW

The LAST thing Shaq needs is to be bigger. The knee and toe problems he has are partly a result of his being so heavy.

If anything he needs DNP!
 
supernav said:
>top athletes were going to talk straight to someone that works
>at ESPN

i've seen 'em do speed, cocaine, hookers, meth, acid, extasy, you name it. I could write a tell-all book, but who would want to buy a book written by some unknown dude. :)

i was more agent than espn employee. I always had to help these dumb millionaire jocks who were getting anally fucked by their agents for *millions*. It was pitiful.

still stand by my steroids comment. I probably still got some NBA player phone #'s lying around if u don't believe me.

-= nav =-

I don't doubt any of what you said---but doing all the drugs your talking about mean nothing compared to some nba player that is using 4ius of growth a day with winny and anavar---Why do you people all think steriods is going to add massive amounts of wieght to your body---They can if you want to but how does a pro-builder like lets say shawn ray come in at basically the same weight year after year---certainly he is on more steriods then one can imagine but when he diets all down---he is basically the same weight year after year---if I'm a very slim basketball player that needs to be more aggressive under the boards and have the strength to fight for a ball-----just how am I going to put on muscle or strength with the type of cardio I'm doing every day-------very simple--5 pounds of muscle is nothing to gained in the offseason and maintained during the season---but it won't be done after the age of 30 without the help of something....Some of these guys bodies are getting bigger and stronger well after 30-----it just doesn't work that way---but it doesn't really matter ----to each their own---no one is really going to prove it ---so be it---

by the way cocaine-hookers-meth-acid-xtc aren't a dirty little secrete--------hormone replacement therapy for a extra edge is-------
 
Amp said:



Remember watching me try to walk around the gym when I was 270 pounds? Everyone thought I just got done doing cardio but I was just adding plates to the bench. :drink2:

sure if you put on 40 pound is 8 weeks your going to have a hard time walking up a flight of stairs

but if your olympic runner---lets say the 400meters---and in 5 years have gained maybe 15 pounds of solid muscle at the exact same bodyfat %----going up or down in bodyfat by maybe 2%--breathing will not be a problem------

the same with a NBA player who has put on 15 pounds of muscle in 5 years only raising his bodyfat % by a couple or even lowing it, breathing will not be a problem----

By the way whats the average basketball players lifespan in the NBA-----I don't know for sure but I thought I read its like 5 years(the average remember) So these types of players(medicore) aren't going to try to get every possible advantage to maybe play for 7 years or 8?
 
supernav said:
Actually most of these guys admit they tried it during their college days. But admit it get really difficult running around with an extra 20lbs of pure muscle, plus got harder to focus on gameplan and strategy cuz they were always pissed all the time and aggressive. Plus their sex drive with groupies was non-existent, which takes the whole fun out of everything. You really don't want to be on juice, and having a couch yelling at you in your face. Could get real nasty.

Trust me, me and a couple of the Nets guys had a long discussion about this at a starbucks.

Now if science could develop a drug that could make you run a 100 meters in 4 seconds, w/o increasing muscle big-time, and make you much more active cardio-wise -- every athlete would be taking it. Even tennis players! (imagine tennis players with steroids. hehe).

btw: guys. These guys have thier own fancy team doctors who *do* give them all kinds of other wacky legal shit. Kinda like how we all talk about ala, etc. But i couldn't remember the fancy names if my life depended on it.

-= nav =-

a tennis player John fucking MCenroe just came out with a book saying how he used steroids to compete with the younger players(like he was the only fucking one doing it---pleazzzzzzz)----so wake up guys ---if a fool like him with 13 inch arms is taking some kind of gear(where and why do you think he got his info on)
Forget about gear just helping these guys become bigger-faster-etc....when their hurt and going through physical therapy--steroids have healing affects that are unmatched...these doctors you talk about aren't giving these guys over the counter meds. for crying out loud(these guys are taking the best of the best)......its a dirty sercrete that is about to be exposed....Something no one wants---hence is why credablity is a issue when these guys talk.....their trying to make it a nonissue before it becomes a major issue---peace
 
Im getting sick and tired of guys talking about how basketball players dont juice and this and that, added body weight and other bullshit, dont you stupid asses know that there are roids that dont put mass and weight on which are for endurance and conditioning.....I can name atleast 20 players who juice in the NBA

Matt Geiger
Alonzo MOurning(gave juice up after taking a bad batch that ruined his kidneys)

Michael Jordan(gave juice up)
Scottie PIppen(gave juice up)
Charles Oakley
Anthony Mason
David Robinson
Aaron Williams
Derek Fisher
 
I agree with most of you- many of these professional athletes are on some form of gear.... look at all of the attention that baseball is getting??? It is one of the sports that I had once least expected to be so "gear" heavy. It is becoming more and more popular and people need to stay competitive.
 
well the sad thing is that most people dont even know especially the public, is that up until 1999, after jordan retired, but his last year, the compounds nandralona and stanozolic were not on the NBA's ban list, meaning the players could take these two steroids with no consequences like suspensions or anything, so what does that say about people who played during those times, many of them could legally by the league use roids.
 
bro your fuckin stupid! Do you think that if deca and winstrol were legal to take in the NBA up to 1999 that nobody was on it, please, and drugs like winstrol, anavar, halotestin, deca, and others dont even make you really big, its for endurance.....bro you can keep saying they dont take it, but your lying to yourself, and your also letting those players fuck with you, do you think they are gonna come out and tell you they snort cocaine and smoke weed also, bro I dont even know what to say, except you need to wake up and smell the coffee!
 
first of all, the NBA testing probably should not be taken seriously. if it is like the NFL testing, it is only really to be worried about when you are first entering the league. in addition the NBA is a corporation geared towards making money, just like the WWE. Anyone who watched game 6 of the western conference finals clearly saw proof that the NBA is not an impartial and just organization. the refs made a mockery of themselves just so there would be a game 7, which gave both teams, the NBA, the television networks, and of course the refs themselves (though maybe not directly) a shitload of money. an organization that is willing to bend the rules to that extent is clearly capable of ignoring the test results, or not even testing, its marquee players.


as for:

"i've seen 'em do speed, cocaine, hookers, meth, acid, extasy, you name it."

all i can say is that when i was a college athlete (i was actually natural at the time) the majority of students were very open about recreational drug use, but were constantly on my case about suspected steroid use. i found it completely absurd, since i did not use recreational drugs (or steroids for that matter), yet the stigma of "drug user" was attached to me. telling an espn employee that you use cocaine and fuck 3 girls at a time makes you "cool and reckless", while telling them you use steroids makes you a "cheater."

and this comment is silly:

"That's why you never see LD runners taking steroids."

i have trained with endurance athletes who use steroids. they take them for recovery. they are burning so many calories anyway, that the drugs are not going to suddenly throw on 20lbs of unwanted muscle. There are endurance athletes on the boards who will attest to that....hell, just ask Animal.
 
just goes to show you what a genious mark maguire was,,he admitted to useing a shitty supplement and everyone thought that was the reason for his 70 HR
 
Hugh G, thank you so much.................you know these people dont want to realize anything about drugs........I see it first hand, how can derek fisher of the lakers be injured and be sittin on the bench with his head looking bigger than a basketball from all the test he was takin, you know it is funny these stupid asses dont even want to realize the shit these players do behind closed doors would make their mother fall over with a heart attack. And in the NBA they play almost 100 games including the playoffs, 3-4 games a week, and hell yeah they got to be on juice to make it through the whole season!
 
CN1--what funny is this fucking guy is trying to say they don't use gear when 20% of my highschool fucking basketball team back in 1987 in Nowhere fucking New Hampshire were taking what ever they could get their hands on.....Basketball players are tall---but in most cases its the supplements that make them freaky-minus the height----these guys are HGH dunkies-----period....Some people are either niave' or just want to spread false info----either way it doesn't matter----Joe smo won't believe the truth anyways------I guess it doesn't matter anyway----10% of basketball players have bitch tits---but then again weed can cause that also:)
 
So you mean to tell me that even the Williams sisters(tennis) are on juice too?? Well damn. I was thinking they girls were just naturally buff or something. Yeah I really am green to the juice game.
 
Wombat said:
I guess it doesn't matter anyway----10% of basketball players have bitch tits---but then again weed can cause that also:)

Are you retarded? Weed cannot and does not cause bitch tits. That whole rumor was started by the US Government to scare boys away from using it.
 
BeefyBull said:


Are you retarded? Weed cannot and does not cause bitch tits. That whole rumor was started by the US Government to scare boys away from using it.

your an idiot -----next your going to tell GHB doesn't cause bitch tits either.....

come out here San Diego and take walk on the some of the beaches and check out the gang members that hang on the walls-----these guys are in packs of 10 or more ----95% have some serious bitch tits(puffy nips-not gyno) some are 120 pounds soaking wet and got bigger tits then my wife----they sure didn't get them from a test/anadrol cycle:)
 
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supernav said:
Well according to all the self know-it-alls on this board, EVERYONE in the sports industry takes Steroids. Hell, Tiger Woods probably takes 'em too right? Maybe those bowlers as well, to get those huge forearms.

humans.

-= nav =-

and why are you any diff-----cause you partied with them---pleazzz------by the way about Tiger woods----I know for sure Duval was or is using some help(why would tiger be excluded from it) of course unless you guys seen it in print you won't believe it anyways.....
 
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Wombat said:

your an idiot -----next your going to tell GHB doesn't cause bitch tits either.....

come out here San Diego and take walk on the some of the beaches and check out the gang members that hang on the walls-----these guys are in packs of 10 or more ----95% have some serious bitch tits(puffy nips-not gyno) some are 120 pounds soaking wet and got bigger tits then my wife----they sure didn't get them from a test/anadrol cycle:)

Fuck you, bitch. :finger: :havoc:

Marijuana: interaction with the estrogen receptor
Sauer MA, Rifka SM, Hawks RL, Cutler GB Jr, Loriaux DL.

Crude marijuana extract competed with estradiol for binding to the estrogen receptor of rat uterine cytosol. Condensed marijuana smoke also competed with estradiol for its receptor. Pure delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol, however, did not interact with the estrogen receptor. Ten delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol metabolites also failed to compete with estradiol for its receptor. Of several other common cannabinoids tested, only cannabidiol showed any estrogen receptor binding. This was evident only at very high concentrations of cannabidiol. Apigenin, the aglycone of a flavinoid phytoestrogen found in cannabis, displayed high affinity for the estrogen receptor. To assess the biological significance of these receptor data, estrogen activity was measured in vivo with the uterine growth bioassay, using immature rats. Cannabis extract in large doses exhibited neither estrogenic nor antiestrogenic effects. Thus, although estrogen receptor binding activity was observed in crude marijuana extract, marijuana smoke condensate and several known components of cannabis, direct estrogenic activity of cannabis extract could not be demonstrated in vivo.
 
B-legit said:
Definately NOT!
sorry to say everyone...but the NBA tests for steroids so i doubt that shaq is juicing. He is garbage.

Tests for steroids? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
 
BeefyBull said:


Fuck you, bitch. :finger: :havoc:

Marijuana: interaction with the estrogen receptor
Sauer MA, Rifka SM, Hawks RL, Cutler GB Jr, Loriaux DL.

Crude marijuana extract competed with estradiol for binding to the estrogen receptor of rat uterine cytosol. Condensed marijuana smoke also competed with estradiol for its receptor. Pure delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol, however, did not interact with the estrogen receptor. Ten delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol metabolites also failed to compete with estradiol for its receptor. Of several other common cannabinoids tested, only cannabidiol showed any estrogen receptor binding. This was evident only at very high concentrations of cannabidiol. Apigenin, the aglycone of a flavinoid phytoestrogen found in cannabis, displayed high affinity for the estrogen receptor. To assess the biological significance of these receptor data, estrogen activity was measured in vivo with the uterine growth bioassay, using immature rats. Cannabis extract in large doses exhibited neither estrogenic nor antiestrogenic effects. Thus, although estrogen receptor binding activity was observed in crude marijuana extract, marijuana smoke condensate and several known components of cannabis, direct estrogenic activity of cannabis extract could not be demonstrated in vivo.

nice......:havoc:
 
Re: shaq roids, my ass!

stealth said:
It's already been said but, just in case,

Happen to be in LA and know some of the management. NO roids, my friends. They test. Also, our boy is actually 380-385 now. Not even close to 285-310. He's simply a freak of nature.

HA HA HA HA HA!!! Keep em comin´!!! HA HA HA !!!
 
BeefyBull said:


Fuck you, bitch. :finger: :havoc:

Marijuana: interaction with the estrogen receptor
Sauer MA, Rifka SM, Hawks RL, Cutler GB Jr, Loriaux DL.

Crude marijuana extract competed with estradiol for binding to the estrogen receptor of rat uterine cytosol. Condensed marijuana smoke also competed with estradiol for its receptor. Pure delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol, however, did not interact with the estrogen receptor. Ten delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol metabolites also failed to compete with estradiol for its receptor. Of several other common cannabinoids tested, only cannabidiol showed any estrogen receptor binding. This was evident only at very high concentrations of cannabidiol. Apigenin, the aglycone of a flavinoid phytoestrogen found in cannabis, displayed high affinity for the estrogen receptor. To assess the biological significance of these receptor data, estrogen activity was measured in vivo with the uterine growth bioassay, using immature rats. Cannabis extract in large doses exhibited neither estrogenic nor antiestrogenic effects. Thus, although estrogen receptor binding activity was observed in crude marijuana extract, marijuana smoke condensate and several known components of cannabis, direct estrogenic activity of cannabis extract could not be demonstrated in vivo.

Why don't you fucking calm down --whats with the constant name calling------you can throw a thousand lab tests with rats in front of me but I'll go with real life studies myself-----I've got an older brother who was or a dead head(he's 38) hes been smoking weed everyday since he was 15--and I mean every fucking day----he is tall and semi lean-but sporting some of worsts puffy nips(tits) I've ever seen besides two of his friends who have the same thing going on....Have you ever seen Snoop Dogg with no shirt on(he is far from being fat --but where in the world did his bitch tits come from--gee i wonder) you go ahead a believe its a government conspiracy(which years ago the government said steriods make your nuts shrink)guys like you said the same thing(government conspiracy)and probably had lab reports to back it up-----for every lab report saying one thing, their is another saying another thing....take it for what its worth...Now does it mean everyone who smokes weed on an everyday basis is going to get tits(of course not)but some people don't get bitch tits from steroids either(no matter the doses)

But considering most of your posts are about weed--perks--and other rec. drugs its no wonder you think its all government conspiracy--two each his own...

well just leave it at you go ahead a believe one thing and i'll do the other---but lets keep the name calling to min---peace
 
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