Serious libido crash

[semper03]

I'm about half way through my last bottle of beast and I have zero sex drive. It's almost like a don't have a dick. It doesn't even move when my girl try's playing with it.

Been here a while. 204lbs 12-13% bf
Ended an osta only cycle a few weeks before starting.

Beast 2 caps 1 hour before workout
N2-AMP 5 caps before workout
DAA one scoop in AM
gluta-tren one scoop before workout
Peak400 one scoop before workout
Multi vitamin pack
Coq10

Was using formeron but ran out. Not my first time running beast but is the first time having this reaction.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Take 250mgs testosterone enanthate or cypionate/week and you'll resolve this issue.

 

[semper03]

Take 250mgs testosterone enanthate or cypionate/week and you'll resolve this issue.

I cannot use AAS anymore which is why I'm finishing off my beast.

 

[bonacris]

Get bloods.. I got prolactin gyno from superdrol. Didnt know it could happen with it but it happenes

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[ceo]

I cannot use AAS anymore

why not?

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Get bloods.. I got prolactin gyno from superdrol. Didnt know it could happen with it but it happenes

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What else were you using with superdrol?

 

[superturkey]

Another reason could be too low estro, that formeron is actually pretty potent stuff.


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[semper03]

why not?

My job. I have to take a polygraph and AAS is the main focus on mine since it's the only thing I admitted to on my background questioner.

 

[bonacris]

What else were you using with superdrol?

Had mlmg but didnt run it.. just superdrol

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[wootoom]

Sorry to cut in Semper...I'm also going thorough a bad libido stretch....I'm on 250 test/ew...N2guard as well as HCGenerate with Forma as well and I seriously have no urge to fuck my girl or even jerk it lol....it's so bad....I'm hard as fuck all the time, just no urge to have sex!!


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[wootoom]

Take 250mgs testosterone enanthate or cypionate/week and you'll resolve this issue.

That's not helping me bro...and it's good shit...I don't know wtf is going on


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[infraredline]

That's not helping me bro...and it's good shit...I don't know wtf is going on


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Sounds like prolactin. Pick up some caber run it at .5mg a week and get some dopadex, P5P (pyroxidine-5-phosphate) & green tea extract to lower your prolactin.

 

[wootoom]

Sounds like prolactin. Pick up some caber run it at .5mg a week and get some dopadex, P5P (pyroxidine-5-phosphate) & green tea extract to lower your prolactin.

I was actually thinking it was my prolactin levels as well...I'm going to get some bloodwork done next week. Trying to find some caber as well


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[Nelson Montana]

Okay, I'm going to say something that's probably going to upset some people. it seems to be a pattern. Nobody wants to hear the truth. They want to hear what they want to hear and there is always enough people who'll agree with them. But it doesn't fix the problem.

Here goes...

If something is causing a problem, the first thing you need to do is STOP USING IT.

That's one.

Secondly, too many people talk out of their asses with guesses that can often do more harm than good. One thing that really upsets me is when people recommend more drugs to counteract the problems of other drugs. Prolacton may be the problem here but you can use Mucana puriens and ginsing to counteract that. Try that first before adding more drugs.


Adding test is a temporary solution and will make for a harder recovery. Get off of everything and clean out.

All of the supps the OP is taken are fine but NONE of them help with recovery or libido.

How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing better for this than UNLEASHED and Protein Factory POST-CYCLE. that's not a sales pitch or an opinion. Ask anyone. That combo works, for recovery, libido and erectile function. Don;t use something LIKE it or a substitute for it. Use the real stuff and it'll solve the problem nine times out of ten.

You have to give it time also. There are many reasons for a loss of libido and worrying about it just makes it worse.

Wootoom -- are youy using Tribulus. With some people Tribulus actually increases erectile strngth but lowers libido. I'm still investingating why this is but without controlled studies it's all speculation. It could be from an increase in LH, which increases both test and estro and that can cause a "numbing" effect. You get wood but it lacks senation.

To the OP, get your hormones regulated and treat this as a lesson. If something doesn;t agree with you. Don't use it. Take the necessary precautions but don't think that makes whatever you do a free ride.

I'm seeing more and more abuse and less and less proper use of supplements . Too much advice with too little reasoning.

 

[wootoom]

Nelson, I'm actually waiting on some unleashed and post cycle...I'm using HCGenerate which has tribulus in it....


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[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, I'm actually waiting on some unleashed and post cycle...I'm using HCGenerate which has tribulus in it....


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Is your 250 test an ongoing HRT dosing?

 

[wootoom]

I've been on for 8 weeks...this problem has been occurring from before cycle...my last cycle before this was 6 months....it's been about 6 months this has been going on...I'm starting to get really worried...is all my cycle history finally catching up to me?

I've been juicing for almost 10 years and this is the first time I've felt like this..


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[Nelson Montana]

I've been on for 8 weeks...this problem has been occurring from before cycle...my last cycle before this was 6 months....it's been about 6 months this has been going on...I'm starting to get really worried...is all my cycle history finally catching up to me?

I've been juicing for almost 10 years and this is the first time I've felt like this..


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Lots of factors at play here. Age is a factor too. 250 is low for a cycle so I'm imaginging it's a cruising dosage. Takling anything else/ Sometimes that "in-between" dose can kill libido. Also, libido likes consistancy. A lot of up and down flucuation can fuck it up and the problems aren;t immediate -- they show up weeks later. So what you did last month can be affecting you now. This is the thing -- there are so many variables, but people are so eager to say it's this or that.

My advice -- get the UNLEASHED and PF POST CYLE and get on a steady HRT dosing and let it settle. You may also need a hit of HCG . People don't realize that the body producing its own hormones is also a factor with libido. Don't take anything with tribulus. Maybe the forma is lowering too much e, or not enough. The only way to tell is with a blood test.

Give it time. But the more you "add' the more you add to the equation. Simplify and figure out what's causing the problem instead of trying to cover it up.

Hope you feel better soon bro.

 

[infraredline]

Okay, I'm going to say something that's probably going to upset some people. it seems to be a pattern. Nobody wants to hear the truth. They want to hear what they want to hear and there is always enough people who'll agree with them. But it doesn't fix the problem.

Here goes...

If something is causing a problem, the first thing you need to do is STOP USING IT.

That's one.

Secondly, too many people talk out of their asses with guesses that can often do more harm than good. One thing that really upsets me is when people recommend more drugs to counteract the problems of other drugs. Prolacton may be the problem here but you can use Mucana puriens and ginsing to counteract that. Try that first before adding more drugs.


Adding test is a temporary solution and will make for a harder recovery. Get off of everything and clean out.

All of the supps the OP is taken are fine but NONE of them help with recovery or libido.

How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing better for this than UNLEASHED and Protein Factory POST-CYCLE. that's not a sales pitch or an opinion. Ask anyone. That combo works, for recovery, libido and erectile function. Don;t use something LIKE it or a substitute for it. Use the real stuff and it'll solve the problem nine times out of ten.

You have to give it time also. There are many reasons for a loss of libido and worrying about it just makes it worse.

Wootoom -- are youy using Tribulus. With some people Tribulus actually increases erectile strngth but lowers libido. I'm still investingating why this is but without controlled studies it's all speculation. It could be from an increase in LH, which increases both test and estro and that can cause a "numbing" effect. You get wood but it lacks senation.

To the OP, get your hormones regulated and treat this as a lesson. If something doesn;t agree with you. Don't use it. Take the necessary precautions but don't think that makes whatever you do a free ride.

I'm seeing more and more abuse and less and less proper use of supplements . Too much advice with too little reasoning.

I agree Nelson. That's what dopadex is, it's mucuna puriens at 98% l-dopa so a very high concentration of l-dopa, then the P-5-P is a precursor to B6 that has shown to enhance the effect l-dopa has on lowering prolactin. The only reason I recommended the caber is because while it is a drug, it is one that has shown to be a much safer one due to the many benefits it offers.

 

[iJohnDoe]

Nelson, I'm actually waiting on some unleashed and post cycle...I'm using HCGenerate which has tribulus in it....[/URL]

Actually, you may want to stop taking HCGenerate and try something else. Tribulus is a dick killer for me. I've tried it standalone with DAA and also a bottle of HCGenerate.

When I tried Tribulus as standalone it made me feel numb from head to toe. It killed my dick. When I took HCGenerate I also got that familiar feeling.

Sorry to offend anyone. I know how much support HCGenerate gets here.

I've done multiple cycles of Animal-TEST and it always got my dick working. You might want to give it a try.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Actually, you may want to stop taking HCGenerate and try something else. Tribulus is a dick killer for me. I've tried it standalone with DAA and also a bottle of HCGenerate.

When I tried Tribulus as standalone it made me feel numb from head to toe. It killed my dick. When I took HCGenerate I also got that familiar feeling.

Sorry to offend anyone. I know how much support HCGenerate gets here.

I've done multiple cycles of Animal-TEST and it always got my dick working. You might want to give it a try.

I'm surprised more people don;t have that "numbing" effect from Trib because it's pretty pronounced. But like everything else, people react differently and how/when/ something is used makes a difference.

Animal Test isn't bad but the active ingredients can be found in PF POST CYCLE at a lower price.

 

[wootoom]

Thanks a lot Nelson, I've actually been hitting HCG 250ius/ew for 2 weeks now...I forgot to mention that...I think a lot of this has to do with stress...work has been really stressful lately as well as a nagging divorce


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[infraredline]

Thanks a lot Nelson, I've actually been hitting HCG 250ius/ew for 2 weeks now...I forgot to mention that...I think a lot of this has to do with stress...work has been really stressful lately as well as a nagging divorce


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Cortisol can definitely do that. Sorry to hear you're going through rough times right now bro.

 

[joeblow12345]

My job. I have to take a polygraph and AAS is the main focus on mine since it's the only thing I admitted to on my background questioner.

Shouldn't have done that bro. Never admit to anything on those things. A polygraph is highly inaccurate and most people just tell on themselves like you did. That's why they ask you all those questions to try and trick a confession out of you. From the moment you step on the property to take it be on your toes. They will act like they are your buddy but its all an act to get you to spill the beans.

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[semper03]

Shouldn't have done that bro. Never admit to anything on those things. A polygraph is highly inaccurate and most people just tell on themselves like you did. That's why they ask you all those questions to try and trick a confession out of you. From the moment you step on the property to take it be on your toes. They will act like they are your buddy but its all an act to get you to spill the beans.

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When I filled my questioner out a last year for my first job I had no idea what was going on or how a poly worked. Now that I'm going through it again for another dept I found out they pull every questioner ive ever done to see if there's any changes. Now I can't say I didn't use. Lesson learned. It's fucked me for a few jobs already.

Back to my Cawk

I have the following on the way
Formeron
Prolactrone
Post cycle
Unleashed
GW
Osta

This has never happened on beast before and it sucks cause I'm making some nice gains from it. Started at 198 now I'm at 203. Gonna get bloods on my next day off and see what's out if whack.

 

[wootoom]

Cortisol can definitely do that. Sorry to hear you're going through rough times right now bro.

Thanks brother....ya it's a tough time...getting better though!


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[infraredline]

When I filled my questioner out a last year for my first job I had no idea what was going on or how a poly worked. Now that I'm going through it again for another dept I found out they pull every questioner ive ever done to see if there's any changes. Now I can't say I didn't use. Lesson learned. It's fucked me for a few jobs already.

Back to my Cawk

I have the following on the way
Formeron
Prolactrone
Post cycle
Unleashed
GW
Osta

This has never happened on beast before and it sucks cause I'm making some nice gains from it. Started at 198 now I'm at 203. Gonna get bloods on my next day off and see what's out if whack.

I would say osta and gw are best left out until you get your shit working again

 

[infraredline]

Thanks brother....ya it's a tough time...getting better though!


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Anytime bro, glad to here things are getting better

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thanks a lot Nelson, I've actually been hitting HCG 250ius/ew for 2 weeks now...I forgot to mention that...I think a lot of this has to do with stress...work has been really stressful lately as well as a nagging divorce


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HCG will do nothing after the second or third pin -- except raise estrogen,. So there's another variable. Stop the HCG, it doesn't help after a while and make things worse. As I said, stop everything except for maybe a 200 mgs a week HRT dose and a little dex and the PF supps. Give it 2 weeks. I'm guessing you;re going to feela thousand times better.

 

[Lou Super Man 123]

HCG will do nothing after the second or third pin -- except raise estrogen.

Where can I find information to read about that Mr. Nelson?

Thanks a lot

 

[wootoom]

Nelson is a good bro..I'm taking adex as well EOD


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[miplank]

Thanks a lot Nelson, I've actually been hitting HCG 250ius/ew for 2 weeks now...I forgot to mention that...I think a lot of this has to do with stress...work has been really stressful lately as well as a nagging divorce


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you wouldn't happen to be taking an SSRI would you? If so, that's probably your problem.

 

[wootoom]

you wouldn't happen to be taking an SSRI would you? If so, that's probably your problem.

No man I don't take anxiety or anti d's


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[miplank]

cool, was just curious.

I'll let you limp dicks get back to it.

 

[wootoom]

Seriously my dick is hard as fuck constantly...just don't have the sex drive...it's fucked up..must be hydros


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[semper03]

Seriously my dick is hard as fuck constantly...just don't have the sex drive...it's fucked up..must be hydros


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Man I can't even get a hard on. Imagine trying to fuck with a cooked noodle. Shits not happening.

 

[wootoom]

Lol!! Sorry to hear bro!!! I need my drive back it's driving me mental


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[Jbranken]

Seriously my dick is hard as fuck constantly...just don't have the sex drive...it's fucked up..must be hydros


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My peener has been like that for a while but not near as bad as you describe. Just lower sex drive than normal but still raging bones. Started a tren cycle the other day so I took my first dose of caber last night and I plowed through my gf 3 times today. Guess prolactin was elevated from peptide use. Can hgh elevate prolactin like peptides? I remember you saying you're on 2-3IU's ED

 

[wootoom]

If I took Tren I would prob become borderline gay my sex drive is so pathetic


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[Nelson Montana]

If I took Tren I would prob become borderline gay my sex drive is so pathetic


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LOL -- that reminds me of an anecdote. Back in the 1950's they thought that gays lacked "manliness' and were effeminate due to a lack of malle hormones. So they did treatment on one group by giving them testosterone to "cure" them. What they wound up with was a bunch of much hornier homos!

 

[bonacris]

I have the same problem as woot.. can get it up and keep it up not a issue But I'm just like meh why bother. Not a sexual deviant like I should be

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[ceo]

Lol!! Sorry to hear bro!!! I need my drive back it's driving me mental


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have you tried lots of porn? Sick motherfucker like you probably needs tranny gang rape porn just to start to feel anything though. Everything you want is available on the iterwebs.

 

[Jbranken]

mmm yoked beef cakes

 

[stevesmi]

i actually think his E is probably too low on the beast. add to the fact that his lipids are probably sky high that doesn't help either with blood flow. its a combo of the two. beast isn't for everyone, personally I cannot stand the stuff cause it makes me feel like shit.. var on the other hand makes me feel indifferent, yet my strength goes way up..

if you feel like shit of course you aren't going to want to do any exercise like sex.

 

[wootoom]

Omfg HAhahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah


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[alcatraz1662]

have you tried lots of porn? Sick motherfucker like you probably needs tranny gang rape porn just to start to feel anything though. Everything you want is available on the iterwebs.

it would be my pleasure if I could put this quote in my sig, sir

*literally just died on my computer LMFAO

*then i may or may not have searched for some tranny gang rape porn

 

[Jbranken]

Omg lololol

 

[Nelson Montana]

It's funny -- to take a slightly more serious slant to ceo's funny post -- I find the tendency when feeling "flat" is to go to harder and harder porn. But that can actually have an anesthetizing effect . You get numb to it and then nothing works.

Give it a break for a while and then suddenly a nice ass walking down the street gets you going. See a pair of tits and you're popping wood. It just seems to work that way.

 

[alcatraz1662]

It's funny -- to take a slightly more serious slant to ceo's funny post -- I find the tendency when feeling "flat" is to go to harder and harder porn. But that can actually have an anesthetizing effect . You get numb to it and then nothing works.

Give it a break for a while and then suddenly a nice ass walking down the street gets you going. See a pair of tits and you're popping wood. It just seems to work that way.

is that why i'm not getting hard from 2 chicks, 1 cup anymore?

 

[semper03]

Alright Fuckers not that tranny porn and poo cups aren't appetizing or anything but try to stay on topic here.

My girl was trying to get me going and nothing worked. I tried to jerk it and it just kinda sat there like a cold worm. Lol mother fucker didn't wanna cooperate with me. I'm gonna be running bloods just to see where I'm at and hope it's just a simple fix.

It's definitely from the beast. I was fine until about week 2, then it started to drop.

 

[stevesmi]

Alright Fuckers not that tranny porn and poo cups aren't appetizing or anything but try to stay on topic here.

My girl was trying to get me going and nothing worked. I tried to jerk it and it just kinda sat there like a cold worm. Lol mother fucker didn't wanna cooperate with me. I'm gonna be running bloods just to see where I'm at and hope it's just a simple fix.

It's definitely from the beast. I was fine until about week 2, then it started to drop.

i will bet my left nut that your E is too low and/or your lipids are all out of whack causing blood flow problems.

you will see when you run your bloods.. in any event this is why beast should be run at a low dose and never for more than 4 weeks.. i personally cannot take it higher than 20 megs a day and 3 weeks tops

 

[semper03]

i will bet my left nut that your E is too low and/or your lipids are all out of whack causing blood flow problems.

you will see when you run your bloods.. in any event this is why beast should be run at a low dose and never for more than 4 weeks.. i personally cannot take it higher than 20 megs a day and 3 weeks tops

I'm going to get the female panel from labcorp. Should I also get the lipid panel as well or will the female be enough to tell from?

 

[Jbranken]

I'd def see what's going on with lipids too

 

[stevesmi]

I'm going to get the female panel from labcorp. Should I also get the lipid panel as well or will the female be enough to tell from?

no that is enough.. if you go to the sub forum on pct i believe i have a sticky up with a link and code from private MD

it won't tell you prolactin levels so if you want to add that you need to add that to cart as well.

but in any event its gonna come down to stopping the beast and also getting on support supps like n2guard to get your lipids healthy

 

[Zyglamail]

work has been really stressful lately as well as a nagging divorce

divorce is a huge stress man, that will kill anyones libido.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You can't discount the psychological aspect. One may think that going through a divorce is the opportunity to get lots of new pussy, but in the deep recesses of the brain there's a trigger that's saying "You have nowhere to put your dick, so I'm going to put it to sleep for a while."

I know that's a very un-clinical explanation but you get the point.

 

[Zyglamail]

... but in the deep recesses of the brain there's a trigger that's saying "You have nowhere to put your dick, so I'm going to put it to sleep for a while."

hell, seems most of the married guys I talk to should have that problem as well.

 

[semper03]

Damn I didn't even read that part woot. I'm also going through a nasty divorce with an immature little girl. Makes me wanna rip my head off and shit down my own neck.

 

[ceo]

It's funny -- to take a slightly more serious slant to ceo's funny post -- I find the tendency when feeling "flat" is to go to harder and harder porn. But that can actually have an anesthetizing effect . You get numb to it and then nothing works.

Give it a break for a while and then suddenly a nice ass walking down the street gets you going. See a pair of tits and you're popping wood. It just seems to work that way.

I think the two of us just hit the nail on the head as to what woot's problem really is!!

 

[stevesmi]

why are you guys getting married so young is my question? worry about marriage when you are in your 40's.. the whole reason we juice and are fitness obsessed is so we can look and feel great right? so why do guys get married at 30 or even 25? I just don't understand it

https://muscle-research.com/content.php?378-boosting-libido-in-men << read this article i published on the subject

 

[semper03]

why are you guys getting married so young is my question? worry about marriage when you are in your 40's.. the whole reason we juice and are fitness obsessed is so we can look and feel great right? so why do guys get married at 30 or even 25? I just don't understand it

https://muscle-research.com/content.php?378-boosting-libido-in-men << read this article i published on the subject

I got married at 18. I know now it was a mistake.

 

[rustilldown]

DAA and hcgenerate kill my libido like none other. Hate to say it.

 

[Jigga14]

Hey guys I know everyone is all for crushing prolactin and stuff, but I think healthy amounts of it may be beneficial for libido, similar to how tanking estrogen will make libido plummet. Check this out:

http://m.nbcnews.com/health/mens-sexual-desire-linked-prolactin-levels-2D11623898

 

[ceo]

I got married at 18. I know now it was a mistake.

you lived in Oklahoma at the time, right?

That's just what kids in the midwest do. They get married young, usually poop out a few kids, then divorce.

 

[semper03]

you lived in Oklahoma at the time, right?

That's just what kids in the midwest do. They get married young, usually poop out a few kids, then divorce.

I was stationed in NC at the time.

 

[ceo]

I was stationed in NC at the time.

pretty much the same thing there too. That whole midwest, plus the south, and the bible belt thing. Plus the military. They usually do it too.

 

[semper03]

pretty much the same thing there too. That whole midwest, plus the south, and the bible belt thing. Plus the military. They usually do it too.

Every one of my tops told me not to so it too, that I would regret it and I didn't listen. I knew everything lol