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I have some photos of Jen McVicar in my cache too...she has a really nice build. I collect BB chicks like some guys collect porn...
Ann, everyone is going to have a different opinion of when it becomes "too much" as far as muscle goes...there are runway model types who would find smallmovesal to have too much muscle, then there are others who emulate a much heftier build. As for you, I guarantee it doesn't happen overnight....if you weren't feeling unfeminine yesterday, you probably haven't gotten too beefy since then! But that's why I think photos are so important...for me anyway....I tend to get comfortable in my skin, which is a good thing, but it doesn't give me a lot of objectivity about how I would look to myself if I could step outside my body and look at me (if you can understand that jibberish, you get a prize!). I would also bet that you and I are both too muscley for some men's tastes (you can't make everyone happy) but the good thing is, we're not doing this to please them!
Ann, everyone is going to have a different opinion of when it becomes "too much" as far as muscle goes...there are runway model types who would find smallmovesal to have too much muscle, then there are others who emulate a much heftier build. As for you, I guarantee it doesn't happen overnight....if you weren't feeling unfeminine yesterday, you probably haven't gotten too beefy since then! But that's why I think photos are so important...for me anyway....I tend to get comfortable in my skin, which is a good thing, but it doesn't give me a lot of objectivity about how I would look to myself if I could step outside my body and look at me (if you can understand that jibberish, you get a prize!). I would also bet that you and I are both too muscley for some men's tastes (you can't make everyone happy) but the good thing is, we're not doing this to please them!
I think otcbooty understood what I was trying to say. I did not mean to anger anyone. Some of the heavy weight division bb competitors are huge. Like I said, in the aspect of seeing their physic on stage they are amazing and beautiful. There definition and muscle development is nothing short of amazing, but in a social setting in feminine clothing they look odd.
I also don't think 6' girls at 100lbs are attractive either, they look frail.
I think the ideal image is Monica Brant. She is my idol, I have her posted all over my apartment for motivation. I think her physic and others at her level, ex. Timea, are what most of us are considering ideal, at least that is what I am picking up from what I read. They are feminine, yet strong.
Spatterson, what I thought we were disagreeing about was that Arnoldi is a rare case or that she made an uninformed decision. I think that there are a lot of women that are in her position. I feel that she was probably well informed but got caught up in that, well just a little more size here, ok a little less fat there. Until one cycle turned into multiple cycles that turned into stacks.
Again I really meant no disrespect, and you guys are right beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I really feel that a woman's body and what it represents is beautiful and should be celebrated which is what I feel is captured by fitness competitors and light weight bb's, but sometimes gets lost in the midst of competition at the higher/heavier levels (which is what I meant by women looking too much like their male counterparts).
Hope you guys aren't too angry with me
Rasta
I also don't think 6' girls at 100lbs are attractive either, they look frail.
I think the ideal image is Monica Brant. She is my idol, I have her posted all over my apartment for motivation. I think her physic and others at her level, ex. Timea, are what most of us are considering ideal, at least that is what I am picking up from what I read. They are feminine, yet strong.
Spatterson, what I thought we were disagreeing about was that Arnoldi is a rare case or that she made an uninformed decision. I think that there are a lot of women that are in her position. I feel that she was probably well informed but got caught up in that, well just a little more size here, ok a little less fat there. Until one cycle turned into multiple cycles that turned into stacks.
Again I really meant no disrespect, and you guys are right beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I really feel that a woman's body and what it represents is beautiful and should be celebrated which is what I feel is captured by fitness competitors and light weight bb's, but sometimes gets lost in the midst of competition at the higher/heavier levels (which is what I meant by women looking too much like their male counterparts).
Hope you guys aren't too angry with me
Rasta
No ones mad at all Rasta.....I just had a fleeting moment of feeling huge----dont know why I did, but I did. Pictured myself looking "macho" in a dress 
I know what you are saying..... and its sad that they do have to go to that extreme to compete and win in the heavyweight division.......but, their body, their choice.
I personally am also a Monica Brant fan----to get her shape is my goal .
I know what you are saying..... and its sad that they do have to go to that extreme to compete and win in the heavyweight division.......but, their body, their choice.
I personally am also a Monica Brant fan----to get her shape is my goal .
Media coverage of female bbers is really harmful to us - my last boyfriend was convinced I was going to turn into a heavyweight extreme overnight. Sorry, I don't think I could afford the amount of drugs - I'm talking about the freaky women who are too big to even compete.
Everyone says it's a bad sport and is harmful, what about soccer? It's really big over here but most soccer players are crippled in middle age as their knees breakdown.
Most people I know do no sport/exercise at all, at least I am keeping myself fit and am not hanging around street corners with nothing to talk about but what was on t.v. last night.
Everyone says it's a bad sport and is harmful, what about soccer? It's really big over here but most soccer players are crippled in middle age as their knees breakdown.
Most people I know do no sport/exercise at all, at least I am keeping myself fit and am not hanging around street corners with nothing to talk about but what was on t.v. last night.
......also the freaky women they use to represent the sport in the media are the women right at the extreme top. They never show the women at our level who are the grass roots of the sport and are actually much fitter and healthier than the average person. As a result the general public have this image that all female bbers look like freaks!
The media always presents the "worst case scenario". If they didn't, they'd never catch anyone's attention. It's all about ratings. One-station vs another in terms of who can dig up the most shit about a topic and then gets the public concerned about it.
Anything out of the norm will always be fair game for the media, and bodybuilding is and always will be a target.
The drug war and crime are big hits on TV. Seems like we have a real hard on in this country for putting people in prison for anything we can think of. There isn't a night I flip through the channels that I don't hit some anti-crime, lock em up shoot em up show during prime time.
You also have to remember that many producers are paid to promote anti-drug messages in their programming. Since bodybuilding is associated with steroids and steroids are illegal, it is possible that many of these programs that paint bodybuilding in a negative light and highlight steroid use in the sport along with all the negatives (i.e., manly looking women) and side-effects are nothing more covert paid ad campaigns. Let's face it; if the public really knew the truth about steroids, chances are there would be little support to put people in prison for using or possessing them. But if the public believes they present some clear and present danger to them and their children, then it’s easy to maintain the current agenda.
It's all about politics.
W6
Anything out of the norm will always be fair game for the media, and bodybuilding is and always will be a target.
The drug war and crime are big hits on TV. Seems like we have a real hard on in this country for putting people in prison for anything we can think of. There isn't a night I flip through the channels that I don't hit some anti-crime, lock em up shoot em up show during prime time.
You also have to remember that many producers are paid to promote anti-drug messages in their programming. Since bodybuilding is associated with steroids and steroids are illegal, it is possible that many of these programs that paint bodybuilding in a negative light and highlight steroid use in the sport along with all the negatives (i.e., manly looking women) and side-effects are nothing more covert paid ad campaigns. Let's face it; if the public really knew the truth about steroids, chances are there would be little support to put people in prison for using or possessing them. But if the public believes they present some clear and present danger to them and their children, then it’s easy to maintain the current agenda.
It's all about politics.
W6
Choosing Your Look
Every woman, before they start a program, need to decide what look they want. We know that 10-12% BF is ideal, but it can take on many forms. I show all of my females clients pictures of: a Cosmo model (skinny, but smooth), Kim Paul (her picture speaks for itself), Kelly Ryan (fitness look), and Andrulla Blanchette (Ms. Olympic look). I ask them to choose who they would like to look like. Then we discuss it. Believe me, most of the women like Kim paul or Kelly Ryan. All of these looks can be achieved with diet, exercise, anabolics, and plastics. Everyone has a right to choose.
Every woman, before they start a program, need to decide what look they want. We know that 10-12% BF is ideal, but it can take on many forms. I show all of my females clients pictures of: a Cosmo model (skinny, but smooth), Kim Paul (her picture speaks for itself), Kelly Ryan (fitness look), and Andrulla Blanchette (Ms. Olympic look). I ask them to choose who they would like to look like. Then we discuss it. Believe me, most of the women like Kim paul or Kelly Ryan. All of these looks can be achieved with diet, exercise, anabolics, and plastics. Everyone has a right to choose.
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