Satch Vs. Carth.. The Judging Panel..

[satchboogie]

ok...

the criteria for judging will be as followed:
(carth and elite members please feel free to add anything that i may have left out detrimental to the judging process:

PROPORTION

SYMMETRY

MASS

BODYFAT

there will NOT be any judges.
carth and i have agreed to conduct a poll so that all members can participate.

please vote for the man you feel is the winner, and NOT for the bro youre buddies with or has helped you out.. damn.. i shouldnt say that i got quite a crew here.. lol.. but whats right is right..

may teh better man win.

 

[Ulter]

um, you do know that polls can be edited by certain personel right? This was brought to light when a poll was taken and the number of votes for each thing in the poll didn't equal the total at bottom. LOL!!!

 

[satchboogie]

mmm...
well, if a certain mod feels it necessary to takes side, so let it be.
i sure as hell dont wanna shave any points my way..\

have you any suggestions?

 

[jay1]

Lets play fair guys...this has been a classy competition so far, lets keep it that way.

 

[Ulter]

I suggest you get a hold of George and let him monitor your poll. He can see if it's been altered.

 

[bw1]

Do you have a set of certain poses each of you will post? Double bi, side chest, etc.

 

[chefbone]

ok...

the criteria for judging will be as followed:
(carth and elite members please feel free to add anything that i may have left out detrimental to the judging process:

PROPORTION

SYMMETRY

MASS

BODYFAT

there will NOT be any judges.
carth and i have agreed to conduct a poll so that all members can participate.

please vote for the man you feel is the winner, and NOT for the bro youre buddies with or has helped you out.. damn.. i shouldnt say that i got quite a crew here.. lol.. but whats right is right..

may teh better man win.

I think the two of you should take pics of the same exact poses(what ever they may be), those poses should be placed next to the opponents Identical pose(easier to judge that way) and hook it up for non-plats!!!

 

[Stainless_Steel]

^ yeah definately do it that way.

 

[Mr. dB]

I think all pics should be taken in Fonz' double-mirrored bathroom.

 

[needsize]

the poses should be standard bodybuilding ones
front double bi
front abs
front lat spread
side chest
side tri
rear lat spread
rear double bi

 

[chefbone]

the poses should be standard bodybuilding ones
front double bi
front abs
front lat spread
side chest
side tri
rear lat spread
rear double bi

No quad or calf shots?????

 

[bw1]

No quad or calf shots?????

I'm assuming NS is talking about full body shots of each of these poses

 

[chefbone]

I'm assuming NS is talking about full body shots of each of these poses

Ahhhh!!!!. Killer.

 

[needtogrow]

I think the two of you should take pics of the same exact poses(what ever they may be), those poses should be placed next to the opponents Identical pose(easier to judge that way) and hook it up for non-plats!!!

what he said, except for the non-plat thing

 

[chefbone]

what he said, except for the non-plat thing

Well, either way, it'll eventually be for non-plats. This has been to hot of a topic to post for just Plat members.

 

[satchboogie]

ULTER will post the pics for non plats dont worry.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I suggest you get a hold of George and let him monitor your poll. He can see if it's been altered.

good idea

 

[Ulter]

I'll post them up, NP

 

[needsize]

those poses show the entire body, nothing left hidden, thats why they are standard for shows, we can post pics demonstrating them to make sure every one knows

 

[muscleup]

yep Just mandatories......They way any BBing show should be judged.

those poses show the entire body, nothing left hidden, thats why they are standard for shows, we can post pics demonstrating them to make sure every one knows

 

[leco3344unt]

both look good, and both are great guys and yea I would beat both. lol

 

[satchboogie]

those poses show the entire body, nothing left hidden, thats why they are standard for shows, we can post pics demonstrating them to make sure every one knows

im not familiar with some poses and have zero experience posing.
but rest assured there will be no bodypart left out of my pics.

from head to toe youll see it all.. well.. maybe not my schlong..

 

[slat1]

Someone post up a site that gives you all you need to know about posing if you have it. It can be the difference!

That said. If you guys like I can have national level judges take a look at the pictures and give you feedback...

 

[Smokescreen]

ok...

the criteria for judging will be as followed:
(carth and elite members please feel free to add anything that i may have left out detrimental to the judging process:

PROPORTION

SYMMETRY

MASS

BODYFAT

there will NOT be any judges.
carth and i have agreed to conduct a poll so that all members can participate.

please vote for the man you feel is the winner, and NOT for the bro youre buddies with or has helped you out.. damn.. i shouldnt say that i got quite a crew here.. lol.. but whats right is right..

may teh better man win.

I never recall agreeing to that. There has to be a fair way of doing this. That poll shit doesn't seem fair at all! And in regards to poses. Someone has to teach me that shit or tell me what to do. I'm not that INTO bodybuilding. I don't know what name of the poses are. And I don't know how to CORRECTLY do them.

Someone with high authority on this forum. Like Mods, and mentors should probably discuss how we are going to vote. And most importantly what shots need to be done and how.

And once that is done. Both Satch and I should be notified.

 

[ed2005]

I'm getting nervous already..........

 

[slat1]

I would keep it to people who have competed or who are actual judges...
A lot of guys and girls on here have no basis for a vote. I have worked at the Olympia, been to numerous shows, worked at shows and have a lot of friends in the industry. What does that mean? My vote is shit. I am really not qualified for voting!

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I'm not that INTO bodybuilding.

 

[will b huge]

the poses should be standard bodybuilding ones
front double bi
front abs
front lat spread
side chest
side tri
rear lat spread
rear double bi

Nevermind

 

[NORMA-MAN]

really looking forward to this one!

 

[Phaded]

poll shit def isn't fair at all.. satch has bias towards him because he knows everyone on here.. and everyone knows him..

 

[needsize]

poll shit def isn't fair at all.. satch has bias towards him because he knows everyone on here.. and everyone knows him..

I tend to agree, it may not be fair considering that

 

[satchboogie]

well..
whats the point of a contest if elite members cant vote??

 

[Smokescreen]

well..
whats the point of a contest if elite members cant vote??

Because everybody is on YOUR side. Simply because of politics. Sorry! But even you admitted to the politic thingy one time bro.

 

[satchboogie]

Because everybody is on YOUR side. Simply because of politics. Sorry! But even you admitted to the politic thingy one time bro.

i mentioned many times..
i want the voters to vote for the better man.. .NOT the bro they favor.

what else do you suggest?

 

[Smokescreen]

i mentioned many times..
i want the voters to vote for the better man.. .NOT the bro they favor.

what else do you suggest?

Rock, paper, scissors????

 

[TRAINHD]

It would be nice to see a poll just to see what all the members think,even if the poll had nothing to do with the final placing,IMO.

 

[satchboogie]

Rock, paper, scissors????

lol..

how about the fattest car wins??
no that wouldnt be fair bro youd lose...

listen bro..
this is all fun and games i dont think you should take it so seriously.
would be ideal to have a poll bro... will make things interesting and get all members involved.

 

[Phaded]

put a poll for members to vote.. but should have maybe a selected few of the moderators do the judging.. or run a poll on bbing site maybe?

 

[satchboogie]

NEEDSIZE had a good idea

each member will vote and post their vote on the thread.
for example:

PROPORTION: satch

SYMMETRY: satch

MASS: carth

BODYFAT: satch

so that would give SATCH 3 points and CARTH 1 point.

we'll add the points up after, lets say, 1 week.

sounds good?

 

[bw1]

NEEDSIZE had a good idea

each member will vote and post their vote on the thread.
for example:

PROPORTION: satch

SYMMETRY: satch

MASS: carth

BODYFAT: satch

so that would give SATCH 3 points and CARTH 1 point.

we'll add the points up after, lets say, 1 week.

sounds good?

Seems fair.

 

[TRAINHD]

NEEDSIZE had a good idea

each member will vote and post their vote on the thread.
for example:

PROPORTION: satch

SYMMETRY: satch

MASS: carth

BODYFAT: satch

so that would give SATCH 3 points and CARTH 1 point.

we'll add the points up after, lets say, 1 week.

sounds good?

Thats the only way to make everyone stand behind their vote IMO.

 

[satchboogie]

right on!

i think that will stick

 

[sparetire]

I never recall agreeing to that. There has to be a fair way of doing this. That poll shit doesn't seem fair at all! And in regards to poses. Someone has to teach me that shit or tell me what to do. I'm not that INTO bodybuilding. I don't know what name of the poses are. And I don't know how to CORRECTLY do them.

Someone with high authority on this forum. Like Mods, and mentors should probably discuss how we are going to vote. And most importantly what shots need to be done and how.

And once that is done. Both Satch and I should be notified.

You know, i have to say something hear that might not be so popular. When you first took the challenge with Satch, you were pretty optimistic and had a positive attitude. I know life has it's problems and we all succumb to them every once in a while and we have to decide how to take them on and prioritize. I realize neither one of you are pro body builders, but seriously, how hard is it to look at the poses of other pro's and do a few for the camera? 2nd, I totally agree with satch's outline for judging. In order to be judged fairly and correctly, we need to look at your body fat, muscular definition, tone, etc, in order for us to pick a winner. Sure, satch has a lot of fans, but so do you carth. I think if we all are honest here and judge with all honesty in mine, then the best man will win.

With that being said, can you please stop crying about what's not fair and toss the ole' "poor ole me" attitude in the garbage and get with the program. We've been listening to your roid rages for the past month or so and using them as excuses about this little, fun, challenge between you and satch. In my opinion, who cares? Pose down in any and every position and post them pics up on July 17th and let's see who wins.

Now, with THAT being said, if you honestly look better than satch in my opinion, and if i'm allowed to vote in this, i'd vote for you.

I say, get the head moderator and let him work out the rules about everything. If there's a poll, then make sure no one cheats and only votes 1 time. Or, pick a fair committe from pro's here or mods and let them pick the winner.

geesh!

 

[Smokescreen]

I am unsubscribing to these threads. So if there is anything I must really know. Please...someone PM me. Thank you!

 

[satchboogie]

I am unsubscribing to these threads. So if there is anything I must really know. Please...someone PM me. Thank you!

SO SO WEAK!!!

 

[Phaded]

i personally think its not even gonna be close even though carth is crazy he's gonna win by landslide..

 

[satchboogie]

i personally think its not even gonna be close even though carth is crazy he's gonna win by landslide..

you wanna ride $1000 on that?
and ill give you odds too.

 

[krishna]

Make sure you provide all your stats too so we can take into consideration height and length differences etc.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

i personally think its not even gonna be close even though carth is crazy he's gonna win by landslide..

I'm not going to be be near a computer on July 17--outta da country--but I would like to put my vote in now-even tho this one will not be a ballot counting close race...

CARTH
CARTH
CARTH
CARTH

Phaded this contest is a jizzoke huh, not even CLOSE ...word life Bruce410 feels me.

 

[slat1]

Heres the deal. I could care less what anyone thinks. When the pictures go up. I am putting them infront of the head judge from the NPC New Englands. I will have him fill out a score card just like he does at every show. He does not come to this site so he will show no bias and his scores will be out in the open. I will post what he writes. No matter what the judgings system is I'm posting it... That should shut everyone up about what is fair and what is not. It will all be right infront of us from a highly qualified individual who decides on a regular basis who goes pro!!!!

 

[satchboogie]

I'm not going to be be near a computer on July 17--outta da country--but I would like to put my vote in now-even tho this one will not be a ballot counting close race...

CARTH
CARTH
CARTH
CARTH

Phaded this contest is a jizzoke huh, not even CLOSE ...word life Bruce410 feels me.

i used to think you're a total idiot.
but then i changed my mind after i chatted with you a few times.

but after the above comment, i must admit you ARE indeed an idiot..
you dont know what i look like do you?
or wait.. are you my neighbor and i dont know it??

no that couldnt be.. i live in a neighborhood much too classy for a fool like you.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

i used to think you're a total idiot.
but then i changed my mind after i chatted with you a few times.

but after the above comment, i must admit you ARE indeed an idiot..
you dont know what i look like do you?
or wait.. are you my neighbor and i dont know it??

no that couldnt be.. i live in a neighborhood much too classy for a fool like you.

Well said!

 

[Phaded]

Well said!

well said? he's acting like a little child because everyone isn't for him..

and satch yes ill put 1000 on it.. but there has to be a way for it to be fair because if all ef members vote you would win if you looked half as good as carth... its basically a popularity contest..

 

[Phaded]

you wanna ride $1000 on that?
and ill give you odds too.

lastly i dont even know what either of you look like.. i was giving carth some needed encouragement because when i see any of these posts go up i see everyone bashing him..

thought it would be nice to let him know there are people rooting for him..

and yes i will still bet even though i dont know what either of you look like current..

 

[chefbone]

Well said!

What's it like ridin' Satch's Nut Sack. Has he shaved for the contest yet?


Anyways, both of you Mutants look swole and jacked as fuck. I shall mark down July 17 on my imaginary calendar. Good luck bro's

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

What's it like ridin' Satch's Nut Sack. Has he shaved for the contest yet?


Anyways, both of you Mutants look swole and jacked as fuck. I shall mark down July 17 on my imaginary calendar. Good luck bro's

Go home lil boy, its past your bedtime. I didnt care for dbbts comments thats all. He had it cumming for his remarks he made first. Both these cats look good..

 

[TRAINHD]

Heres the deal. I could care less what anyone thinks. When the pictures go up. I am putting them infront of the head judge from the NPC New Englands. I will have him fill out a score card just like he does at every show. He does not come to this site so he will show no bias and his scores will be out in the open. I will post what he writes. No matter what the judgings system is I'm posting it... That should shut everyone up about what is fair and what is not. It will all be right infront of us from a highly qualified individual who decides on a regular basis who goes pro!!!!

I think thats a great idea,but I still think the poll would be nice,after all that would be the opinion of only one judge,and I have yet to see a contest with only one judge.Great idea K to you Bro.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

i used to think you're a total idiot.
but then i changed my mind after i chatted with you a few times.

but after the above comment, i must admit you ARE indeed an idiot..
you dont know what i look like do you?
or wait.. are you my neighbor and i dont know it??

no that couldnt be.. i live in a neighborhood much too classy for a fool like you.

Lol, blah blah..can't believe your putting your rep up in this contest just to get shut down and laughed at, it takes nuts and you're giving your nuts away... your bi's are 14" and flat, your chicken legs need a pounding, and your mom needs to drop your ass on the floor again to uncross those damn eyes...str8 up! Can you post ONE MORE Satch update pic like you were doing week AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK same old post NO PROGRESS bragging about your Primo and not telling eerrbody about how much GH you REALLY take, face it DUUUUDE juice and your natty ectomorph bod just aint cuttin it.... Lets not talk about $$ and where we reside, because it doesn't buy happiness after all does it bro? This is a bodybuilding contest and its turning into something else.

 

[Phaded]

we make our money different ways, i like to do it legit.

def uncalled for broham.. c'mon now..

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

def uncalled for broham.. c'mon now..

he brought it up not me

 

[BlaXXXima]

Just post your pics, putzes...

 

[khemix]

I think everybody just needs to chill the fuck out. We're all here to attain a higher physique and not rip each other apart about it. I couldn't give less of a shit about who wins but apparently, judging by the responses of this thread, there are alot of people that are holding this contest close to them? Thats the only reason I can figure that you guys would be fighting like kids. Com'on bitches, make up.

 

[Bruce]

agreed this has become a popularity/lifestyle contest. just post the pics and flex your shit. whoever looks better i'm voting for, i don't think anyone wants to win because they r popular

 

[will b huge]

you wanna ride $1000 on that?
and ill give you odds too.

ALRIGHT!!! NOW, WE ARE FU(KING TALKING!!!!!!!

 

[will b huge]

Heres the deal. I could care less what anyone thinks. When the pictures go up. I am putting them infront of the head judge from the NPC New Englands. I will have him fill out a score card just like he does at every show. He does not come to this site so he will show no bias and his scores will be out in the open. I will post what he writes. No matter what the judgings system is I'm posting it... That should shut everyone up about what is fair and what is not. It will all be right infront of us from a highly qualified individual who decides on a regular basis who goes pro!!!!

HEY SLAT1--thats cool of ya bro....and just for shits/giggles--I just posted this in the other thread---but definitely pertains to your post regarding judging---figured I'd paste it here......(for what its worth---LOL)

Quote:
Originally Posted by swordfish151
I need to post my opinion on this one..its really not fun when one guy is hardcore ready and excited about it and the other is just "whatever" i understand there are different circumstances and i understand that no one wins anything or looses anything...but its just no fun to see Tyson step into the ring with joe shmoe...no offense to anyone...both you guys are outstanding bro's but a competition is just that...to compete...not for one person to just give up or not care before the actuall event....




Hey SWORDFISH,

From what I have seen, CARTH/SATCH started this big thing between them about the competition and CARTH put in his signature of every post he made SATCH BOOGIEMAN vs. CARTH Pay Per VIEW JULY 17th......And everyone was pretty pumped about it and it was cool.......(Personally, I was watching and waiting with a little build up for the damn thing.....AND THEN, LATE LAST WEEK, CARTH POSTED A THREAD SAYING PRETTY MUCH HE QUITS---IT ISN'T WORTH IT TO HIM ANYMORE----HE HAS PROBLEMS WITH ONE HOUSE AND HAD TO GET ANOTHER-----AND THE CUTTING DRUGS ARE PISSING HIM OFF------Don't get me wrong, I give CARTH credit for being honest, but 2.5 weeks before the deadline, he posted the damn thread was 100 sentences long!!!!!! It disappointed me to say the least......


Anyways, a POLL sounds fair, I will compare each pic and point out reasons on exactly who and why I voted for what.........based on not just "Whos BIGGER", but for anyone that hasn't done a show or been to an IFBB Show---Judges score like the following:

Round 1--Symmetry round, Overall shape (symmetry and proportion)
THERE IS NO FLEXING/POSING IN THIS ROUND---simply view from the front and back with no ability to cover up flaws from flexing.....

Round 2--Muscularity round
MANDATORY POSES---front double bi, side chest, etc....----judges score based on overall physique, leanness compared to mass, Flat (sloppy) vs. striations through the body (RIPPED), vascularity, etc. etc......

Round 3--Posing roundThis is when competitors don't have to do mandatory poses, but can pose in anyway they choose for the judges---(usually to MAXIMIZE their STRENGTHS and MINIMIZE any and all WEAKNESSES)


ALRIGHT, Anyways......We can make it as serious as you fellas would like....(Am I saying to make sure your spread your JAN/DREAM TAN all over and get your POSING Suits ON--no--FLMAO)....(although if this competition if really for something that we don't know about (like a night with the other's wife/girl or whatever)...then it may not hurt to get that tan kicking, take your diuretics, get that enima, and the last few days to completely carb deplete and right before show time eat a big FAT ASS BROWNIE----it will shock your system and make all your veins pop out everywhere---real ripped/vascular look.........

Another great tip----The night before the contest, mix up 1 cup of red wine and 50 ml of glycerine and sip this before going to bed. This helps to fill out the muscles. Glycerine temporarily draws water inside the muscle cells making them fuller. I will have the wine and glycerine again early Saturday morning. Glycerine is also a mild laxative, so it will help eliminate any bloating!!!!---really is a good tip---not sure what kind of competition we'll be having---but I'm trying to have fun with it.....and with the money bets starting to fly-----it may get DAMN interesting----(especially if I can get in on that $$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!)



OK...I'm done with my bull shit---Too much time on my hands tonight.....sorry fellas....LOL


Good Luck

 

[satchboogie]

HEY SLAT1--thats cool of ya bro....and just for shits/giggles--I just posted this in the other thread---but definitely pertains to your post regarding judging---figured I'd paste it here......(for what its worth---LOL)

Quote:
Originally Posted by swordfish151
I need to post my opinion on this one..its really not fun when one guy is hardcore ready and excited about it and the other is just "whatever" i understand there are different circumstances and i understand that no one wins anything or looses anything...but its just no fun to see Tyson step into the ring with joe shmoe...no offense to anyone...both you guys are outstanding bro's but a competition is just that...to compete...not for one person to just give up or not care before the actuall event....




Hey SWORDFISH,

From what I have seen, CARTH/SATCH started this big thing between them about the competition and CARTH put in his signature of every post he made SATCH BOOGIEMAN vs. CARTH Pay Per VIEW JULY 17th......And everyone was pretty pumped about it and it was cool.......(Personally, I was watching and waiting with a little build up for the damn thing.....AND THEN, LATE LAST WEEK, CARTH POSTED A THREAD SAYING PRETTY MUCH HE QUITS---IT ISN'T WORTH IT TO HIM ANYMORE----HE HAS PROBLEMS WITH ONE HOUSE AND HAD TO GET ANOTHER-----AND THE CUTTING DRUGS ARE PISSING HIM OFF------Don't get me wrong, I give CARTH credit for being honest, but 2.5 weeks before the deadline, he posted the damn thread was 100 sentences long!!!!!! It disappointed me to say the least......


Anyways, a POLL sounds fair, I will compare each pic and point out reasons on exactly who and why I voted for what.........based on not just "Whos BIGGER", but for anyone that hasn't done a show or been to an IFBB Show---Judges score like the following:

Round 1--Symmetry round, Overall shape (symmetry and proportion)
THERE IS NO FLEXING/POSING IN THIS ROUND---simply view from the front and back with no ability to cover up flaws from flexing.....

Round 2--Muscularity round
MANDATORY POSES---front double bi, side chest, etc....----judges score based on overall physique, leanness compared to mass, Flat (sloppy) vs. striations through the body (RIPPED), vascularity, etc. etc......

Round 3--Posing roundThis is when competitors don't have to do mandatory poses, but can pose in anyway they choose for the judges---(usually to MAXIMIZE their STRENGTHS and MINIMIZE any and all WEAKNESSES)


ALRIGHT, Anyways......We can make it as serious as you fellas would like....(Am I saying to make sure your spread your JAN/DREAM TAN all over and get your POSING Suits ON--no--FLMAO)....(although if this competition if really for something that we don't know about (like a night with the other's wife/girl or whatever)...then it may not hurt to get that tan kicking, take your diuretics, get that enima, and the last few days to completely carb deplete and right before show time eat a big FAT ASS BROWNIE----it will shock your system and make all your veins pop out everywhere---real ripped/vascular look.........

Another great tip----The night before the contest, mix up 1 cup of red wine and 50 ml of glycerine and sip this before going to bed. This helps to fill out the muscles. Glycerine temporarily draws water inside the muscle cells making them fuller. I will have the wine and glycerine again early Saturday morning. Glycerine is also a mild laxative, so it will help eliminate any bloating!!!!---really is a good tip---not sure what kind of competition we'll be having---but I'm trying to have fun with it.....and with the money bets starting to fly-----it may get DAMN interesting----(especially if I can get in on that $$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!)



OK...I'm done with my bull shit---Too much time on my hands tonight.....sorry fellas....LOL


Good Luck

appreciate the tips bro and the time you dedicated to post this.

you know.. its amazing how many haters out there.
carth and i are buddies and have no beef.
but it seems like a few bros have a problem here.

anyhow, i dont think neither carth nor i will take the time to post dozens of pics of different poses.. for me at least (given that i dont know how to pose worth shit) its gonna be teh basics.

a few differernt front shots
a few back shots
some side shots

but no bodypart will be left out thats for sure!

 

[sparetire]

i wish you guys would post up your pics already and get this show on the road because it's getting straight up nasty in here. You guys are causing more anxiety and stress here than division ever did! UUUGGGGHHH..

 

[chefbone]

i wish you guys would post up your pics already and get this show on the road because it's getting straight up nasty in here. You guys are causing more anxiety and stress here than division ever did! UUUGGGGHHH..

LOL.....Ain't that the truth...K

 

[Phaded]

so who's gonna hold the money for this bet mr satch.. where i get odds..

 

[gtrcivic]

You know, i have to say something hear that might not be so popular. When you first took the challenge with Satch, you were pretty optimistic and had a positive attitude. I know life has it's problems and we all succumb to them every once in a while and we have to decide how to take them on and prioritize. I realize neither one of you are pro body builders, but seriously, how hard is it to look at the poses of other pro's and do a few for the camera? 2nd, I totally agree with satch's outline for judging. In order to be judged fairly and correctly, we need to look at your body fat, muscular definition, tone, etc, in order for us to pick a winner. Sure, satch has a lot of fans, but so do you carth. I think if we all are honest here and judge with all honesty in mine, then the best man will win.

With that being said, can you please stop crying about what's not fair and toss the ole' "poor ole me" attitude in the garbage and get with the program. We've been listening to your roid rages for the past month or so and using them as excuses about this little, fun, challenge between you and satch. In my opinion, who cares? Pose down in any and every position and post them pics up on July 17th and let's see who wins.

Now, with THAT being said, if you honestly look better than satch in my opinion, and if i'm allowed to vote in this, i'd vote for you.

I say, get the head moderator and let him work out the rules about everything. If there's a poll, then make sure no one cheats and only votes 1 time. Or, pick a fair committe from pro's here or mods and let them pick the winner.

geesh!

agree with this post....july 17th, talk the talk, gotta walk the walk...shots of basic poses should be sufficient to judge who wins...

some of the pics you posed and posted for already show the basic poses, double bi, side bi, back shots..so don't say you don't know what pose is what..thats a cop out...

 

[gtrcivic]

I never recall agreeing to that. There has to be a fair way of doing this. That poll shit doesn't seem fair at all! And in regards to poses. Someone has to teach me that shit or tell me what to do. I'm not that INTO bodybuilding. I don't know what name of the poses are. And I don't know how to CORRECTLY do them.

Someone with high authority on this forum. Like Mods, and mentors should probably discuss how we are going to vote. And most importantly what shots need to be done and how.

And once that is done. Both Satch and I should be notified.

you have a good physique, but come on, some of the pics you posted are what the peanut gallery is asking for

 

[flex2win]

Because everybody is on YOUR side. Simply because of politics. Sorry! But even you admitted to the politic thingy one time bro.

I wouldn't say everybody, although Satch has been of great service to this site, we are NOT judging on how fast someone can bring your lunch out to you. I ain't sayin' shit until the 17th drops with some pics...