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Satch is a scammer

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DRRman said:
it was obvious what happened here, same shit happened with KJUK way back, anyone remember that?

CoolHandLuke would be a better example here.

Indy's not buying chat now. :worried:
 
blut wump said:
Seriously, this is well f'ed up. Satch was one of the 'big men' around here, well-backed by everyone with a voice.

I'm not trying to be melodramatic but it casts some doubt on the whole system when someone can get to such high profile with what pretty much amounted to site backing and in some threads openly touting his wares, including pictures.

Where does this leave everyone and the whole system of trust and mod-verification we have?

Edit: I'm not trying to cast doubt on any of the mods in this forum. I hold them all in the highest regard and have only good to say about them. Somehow, Satch slipped through the cracks in the system.


dare I say this, I think it goes beyond the mods. You can't say anything negative about them. I remember when he there was a link to bogus steroids or something, not a thread, but a banner, and you clicked and then clicked on that new page and then you were brought to his web site page. Not saying the administrators knew better, but it didn't help.
 
gotmilk said:
CoolHandLuke would be a better example here.

Indy's not buying chat now. :worried:


yes, agreed, kjuk first came to mind because he got me for some lute!

Hell, i still think a lot of these scammers are repeat offenders, go out scamming with one board handle and come back build trust as another and do it again...what stops them from doing it
 
You guys make me laugh i posted on here that satch was a scammer this i knew 3 months ago when a number of us got fucked over! I posted a warning to you guys to save you from losing any dollars as i did & what happened i got shot down by nearly everyone on here & my warning got deleted! Guys on here were saying get ya facts right b4 posting, no way satch is an A1 bro yea he's a saint etc etc! You know who you are now eat your words you mothers & indy your can go fuck yourself as well bro ya 180lb sack of shite! I'm glad satch is finished as i started the spark that has got satch burnt 3 months ago & at 200lb the only thing satch could beat up on when he's pissed is a bird the chump! Just like to add Omega Labs is a top bro for sorting out the orders at getigf.com when satch bailed out with the cash RESPECT!
 
well isn't the Arnold Classic coming up ??

Indy supposed to be there w/his security for protection....maybe you guys can ask him if you see him there....maybe he was in cohootz w/satch , maybe not.....but if Indy isn't heard from on here any time soon, then its obvious that he knew what was going on....

I'm glad i never put an order in with Satch...very tempted on several occasions and just didn't seem right...getting the gear from either Florida or Texas, but western union to middle eastern country...and in US $$$$ ...getting his stuff made in China, middle east connection? then getting it domestically.....so passed on putting an order in..
 
gtrcivic said:
well isn't the Arnold Classic coming up ??

Indy supposed to be there w/his security for protection....maybe you guys can ask him if you see him there....maybe he was in cohootz w/satch , maybe not.....but if Indy isn't heard from on here any time soon, then its obvious that he knew what was going on....

I'm glad i never put an order in with Satch...very tempted on several occasions and just didn't seem right...getting the gear from either Florida or Texas, but western union to middle eastern country...and in US $$$$ ...getting his stuff made in China, middle east connection? then getting it domestically.....so passed on putting an order in..

He needs security bro the streak of piss that he is! He knew alright bro & i for one would like to meet the little fella!
 
gtrcivic said:
well isn't the Arnold Classic coming up ??

Indy supposed to be there w/his security for protection....maybe you guys can ask him if you see him there....maybe he was in cohootz w/satch , maybe not.....but if Indy isn't heard from on here any time soon, then its obvious that he knew what was going on....

I'm glad i never put an order in with Satch...very tempted on several occasions and just didn't seem right...getting the gear from either Florida or Texas, but western union to middle eastern country...and in US $$$$ ...getting his stuff made in China, middle east connection? then getting it domestically.....so passed on putting an order in..

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I wonder if Indy knows where to find him...he looks all of a buck seventy five...He has pissed off some big bros...I wonder if he's reading this thread...I wonder if he will meet his end on the recieving end of violence ? He will be found sooner or later.
 
gtrcivic said:
well isn't the Arnold Classic coming up ??

Indy supposed to be there w/his security for protection....maybe you guys can ask him if you see him there....maybe he was in cohootz w/satch , maybe not.....but if Indy isn't heard from on here any time soon, then its obvious that he knew what was going on....

I'm glad i never put an order in with Satch...very tempted on several occasions and just didn't seem right...getting the gear from either Florida or Texas, but western union to middle eastern country...and in US $$$$ ...getting his stuff made in China, middle east connection? then getting it domestically.....so passed on putting an order in..


I wasn't cool about sending money to Isreal, to get domestics,,,,,it didn't seem right...........prices were too high anyway,
I knew he could talk several Languages too........
Pretty smart if you ask me, The set-up, The play, the action, the referrals, the take, the heat, Vanished!!! soon to be back as a new guy in business.
Classic Scam.
it was good! bet the money was even better.
too bad only thing he could beat up was his GF. or BF for that.
 
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fistfullofsteel said:
damn, that's some nice fucking money he was making if it was true. 75K * 12 months = $900,000 a year in cash = WOW


and just think: when indy said he'd buy elitefitness.com he probably could -- seeing as how he and satch were "in bed" together.
 
fistfullofsteel said:
Just lunch money, get out!!!!! really??? damn, so how much do you think he was actually pulling in?
at least 3times more. manufacturer makes more money than any dealer, no matter how big is the dealer. and he was manufacturing and selling to a customer, no middleman... must be some crazy profit...
 
fistfullofsteel said:
damn, that's some nice fucking money he was making if it was true. 75K * 12 months = $900,000 a year in cash = WOW

How much do you think he got away with, dollar $ value???
 
bigguns123 said:
You guys make me laugh i posted on here that satch was a scammer this i knew 3 months ago when a number of us got fucked over! I posted a warning to you guys to save you from losing any dollars as i did & what happened i got shot down by nearly everyone on here & my warning got deleted! Guys on here were saying get ya facts right b4 posting, no way satch is an A1 bro yea he's a saint etc etc! You know who you are now eat your words you mothers & indy your can go fuck yourself as well bro ya 180lb sack of shite! I'm glad satch is finished as i started the spark that has got satch burnt 3 months ago & at 200lb the only thing satch could beat up on when he's pissed is a bird the chump! Just like to add Omega Labs is a top bro for sorting out the orders at getigf.com when satch bailed out with the cash RESPECT!


LOL, i bet that felt good!
 
What a serious kick in the balls this is.

I posted in that primo thread about my reluctance to get involved in this board (or any board) because I didn't understand the background of the shitstorms I observed at the time. So, I used the board as a resource only. My gut feeling was, how can you trust people that you can't look in the face or shake hands with. Because what we do here can have serious consequences. But, I got comfortable because I believe that the vast of people who post here are straight up and I still feel that way. But, it only takes a very few shit heads to ruin a good thing.

I've been around this scene for a long time and I've seen how messed up things can get on the local scene. But, on these boards most times you truly don't know who is on the other keyboard posting here and you take some out in the open risk being involved.

Now I'm buried back in my paranoid state of distrust and I'm seriously angry about this but, I won't get into detail. My personal security has always been of paramount importance to me and to think that for one minute I could possibly compromise it by being involved in a discussion board makes me feel like a fool.

So, I'm back to trusting noone, keeping my friends close and my enemies closer and eveyone is guilty until proven innocent. What a suck way to feel.
 
tzan said:
Not a surprise at all. Whoever said it before was right, a few months back when the dude took a little time off because of the "heat", then was up and running in a few weeks, you knew something was up. Not blaming anyone, but the biggest joke of all this was the blantent self advertising that was allowed to go on. If you were a newbie and were on the boards for 1 week, you could obviously figure out this man had what you wanted.....and with all the backing of him, you'd of figured you were going with the best. Just a F'n shame!!

EXACTLY!!!
 
Guys, instead of posting on this thread, you should be running down to WU and attempting to reclaim your money. The less that is lost, the best.
 
g mac said:
What a serious kick in the balls this is.

I posted in that primo thread about my reluctance to get involved in this board (or any board) because I didn't understand the background of the shitstorms I observed at the time. So, I used the board as a resource only. My gut feeling was, how can you trust people that you can't look in the face or shake hands with. Because what we do here can have serious consequences. But, I got comfortable because I believe that the vast of people who post here are straight up and I still feel that way. But, it only takes a very few shit heads to ruin a good thing.

I've been around this scene for a long time and I've seen how messed up things can get on the local scene. But, on these boards most times you truly don't know who is on the other keyboard posting here and you take some out in the open risk being involved.

Now I'm buried back in my paranoid state of distrust and I'm seriously angry about this but, I won't get into detail. My personal security has always been of paramount importance to me and to think that for one minute I could possibly compromise it by being involved in a discussion board makes me feel like a fool.

So, I'm back to trusting noone, keeping my friends close and my enemies closer and eveyone is guilty until proven innocent. What a suck way to feel.


I know of a ton of intertwined shit people would be amazed at...such as post owners of boards and sites that are other people now, people who have sold out and came back as other etc, i bet we would all drop dead in amazement if we knew the TRUTH behind all the shady shit some of the money hungry mods/sources/owners etc were actually doing that we don't know about
 
pogo said:
does this mean GTP is all bunk? i noticed another source having a 1/2price sale on it.
Dont want to give any comments about GTP now. No matter who sell it. Only one thing. send their gear to SRCS, I havent seen any lab test results except results posted by Satch, I`m sure this stuff isnt what it supposed to be.
For future reference dont buy UGL from a dealer who speak about UGL philosophy, I was laughing my ass off when Satch posted threads like that.
 
fuck im gonna join in on this. Retabolin whats up bro
 
hello woootoooooom, might as well chime in! maybe biggest thread in elite history, next to the guy that injected into his SPHINCTER!
 
I thought he was a stand up guy until I emailed him with several questions about IGF when it first came out and then he got mad at me < iguess because i didnt just order 10 vials but had the common sense to ask some questions of him about it (which hisbanner said he was glad to answer any and all gear related questions)....than he goes on the board and bashes me for "being an idiot and not doing my research" well at that time there wasnt much out there about IGF....so next thing you know he refers me to a site called www.getigf.com, saying if we cant do business he would refer me to them......well turns out that was his very own website. He was into gross self promotion and making the most money he could regardless of what lies he had to tell, IMO im glad hes gone!!!!
 
Believe it or not when I did a source check on Satch almost a year ago 2 EF mods told me he was a risky investment. But it's definitely strange that he is the only guy who could almost openly source post on Elite.
 
cyrex said:
my gtp test has been working GREAT

I was one of the very last to receive anything.
My timing was inpeccable

Yeah my buddy was too. He got some EQ probably around the same time you did. Its working alright? Did you get anything else?
 
Fuck this, this all smells of bullshit. There is to many players in this with their hands in the pot. Going back to the "Satch was busted thread" yea I thought we had a direct source to the problem. Next time I look up busted in the dictionary it will probably say something like broke, destroyed, needs fixing. I doubt however it will say scamming mother fuckers and taking their money. I also want to call out the MOD who is still letting Satch surf freely on the website for like 8 hours now? GALAXY sure was banned quickly and for what, maybe calling out someone and being right about that and maybe sticking his nose into this whole GTP shit. Well Im glad he is still banned just proves my fucking point more that to much shit is going on here.
 
02gixxersix2 said:
Believe it or not when I did a source check on Satch almost a year ago 2 EF mods told me he was a risky investment. But it's definitely strange that he is the only guy who could almost openly source post on Elite.

I really never understood why anyone would do business with him...I saw his price list...he was way overpriced...and was pushing a Underground lab..that noone really knew anything about....Who knows the prices were crazy high though.
 
Retabolil2 said:
Since MrX doesnt allow me to express my opinion here I personally asked Radar to approve this post. I believe I have a right to post what I think like all other members.
Ok, we all have seen that in fact Satch was pushing fake GTP stuff instead of the real deal but every single post he made about GTP was supported by many EF vets. I totally agree with blut wump that whole system of source check with mods is fucked up! And I do believe that guys who supported Satch in every fucking thread were well paid! Also Satch was blatantly open advertising his products on this board and many other places. Through many years on the EF board I`ve seen it only once and I think its not good for the board`s reputation. I believe that too many people had their vested interests behind Satch`s dirty advertising campaign! I mean look at GTP! It looks like shit! I`m not saying its good or bad but definitely doesnt look like bestseller! How come it became so popular? Very simple! backed by incredible amount of vets. Did they really like it that much? I dont think so but some gear for free helps alot! In my opinion there are many other products on the market that deserve better reputation than GTP, looks better, works better just doesnt get good promotion like GTP. Satch was an excellent promotion campaign engine! As I posted before there are smart people who can sell you your own shit and there are many other supporters who will always be there to tell you it smells like a rose!
I dont think there is a solution of this problem, hopefully newbies read it and will be more carefull with gear they choose next time.


Good Post Ret! I agree with you 100%
 
Almost up to 10 pages already I see.. Well, I'll say one thing. This sure has brought all of EF together in one place! lol. Whats up c&c!
 
maccer said:
How about Galaxy get let back and Indy gets banned for his "galaxy said some stupid things" quote

sounds like a plan there...where is INDY anyways? he and satch not got out of bed yet?
 
Good work on this X! Satch thought he was to slick to get exposed, guess he was wrong.


Mr.X said:
I think everyone here has been thinking he has been 'busted', well until today (AM) I thought so too. So did all the staff here.

Unfortunately, that is not the case. I got word from outlaw members and many others including moderators there that he has contacted people and talked to them on AIM. Now his story is that
he didn't get busted for steroids but rather for "beating up his girlfriend" (that's word for word what I Heard). Well, it sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. Of course, he's keeping all the money he took from people! what a fucking joke :rolleyes:

Turns out this was just a staight scam, and outlaw has put it out there already as a scam. They are saying he went to the "dark side" already; aka a scammer.

If you're upset, you're not the only one - everyone is pissed off!

You can start by calling western union and filing a fraud complaint on the transaction if you have been scammed. That's a start. If you paid with a credit card online, reverse the transaction.


Here are the latest "facts":
(keep in mind this is all coming from different sources)
-satch was not busted for steroids
-satch did run with people's money
-satch is online talking to people
-satch is NOT in jail
-satch was even trying to sell something online

This thread will remain open for people to vent, you can post info. etc...

I will try to get new information as it comes.
 
Wootoom said:
alot of god bros in here. Fistfull whats up bro


I'm str8, don't anybody h8, instead appreci8. good broseph here, just checkin out the dope scene. i was wanting to do a ronnie coleman cyle and get C-cup tits this summer but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. too many good brosephs gone bad.
 
SOMEONE GO KILL THE FUCKER!!

SCAMMERS MUST DIE!!









TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE A ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
 
OmegaLabs said:
Indeed this should... I have a ton of things to say about this man.... Ill get me some shut eye first, and then post my thoughts and facts!!! Im curious about what indy has to say about all this now!! The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together!!

Much Respect,
Omega Labs
Omega Labs !!!! Good to see you here bro! People trust me, Omega is a stand up guy and knows what he is talking about in reference to SB.
 
It's piss easy to get round an IP ban, just use a proxy....which i'd imagine Satch and co did during their time on here, if not then it wouldnt be too hard to find out his I.D/Address.
 
So the whole story Indy told about the news reporter buying gear from satch and then turning everything over to interpol was all bullshit? Completely made up?
 
Snarling Force said:
So the whole story Indy told about the news reporter buying gear from satch and then turning everything over to interpol was all bullshit? Completely made up?


Now your catching on...Fucked up isn't it:mad:
 
All of these people were correct

Posted by LT3
I called him up on a bunch of stuff including the IGF and Primo, but when he realizes that he cant argue back ,he just doesnt answer back. i feel bad for the guy for all his troubles but lets be real he wasnt the best influence on the board.

Posted by PolfaJelfa
I wish the guy well if he did not do anything bad to people and truly got into trouble.

Posted by Mookie
I am not saying Satch is a scammer but he owes people money or product and he is awol. There are people that know what's up with satch and not saying anything if is busted then show some proof.

Posted by Galaxy
RADAR why dont u post up over on Mayhem? Oh thats right...youd get flamed into oblivion...the guys over there actually walk the walk!

Posted by Needsize
If people are out money, then mods shouldnt be doing that stuff, people affected deserve to know where their money is.

Posted by Superqt4u2nv
Hmmm no reason why this is a big secret? Come on there has to be a reason. Other busts are posted why is this ANY diffrent from any other bust?

Then we have these quotes...

Posted by Indy69Camaro
but until then I keep his converstations to myself, we are still friends and always will be, one of the best friends I have, stand up person no matter what some other idiot says.

I can tell you what is posted on other boards is NOT accurate, it's speculation and people kicking someone while they are not around to defend themselves and make it up as they go along. that's where it's ending up here and why I am dropping my volume of posts on this board as of today.
 
anyone ever tested the igf? i mean we all know it has to be shipped in powder form when asked about it all we got from him or omega is mumbo jumbo

the same ass kissers that where raving about satch rave about omega, guys open your eyes

yup now the omega ass kissers start yapping about what i just posted
 
slat1 said:
Why would so many people admit in a public forum that they sent someone money for steroids? I guarantee that there are federal agents or people working with them reading and posting on this thread.
Common sense is sorely lacking here!!!!
Word admit nothing people...
 
Kachunga said:
Omega Labs !!!! Good to see you here bro! People trust me, Omega is a stand up guy and knows what he is talking about in reference to SB.

Dude you were taking up for Satch big time on getigf.com you and Indy were always taking up for that bitch.
 
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