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Satch is a scammer

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I think everyone here has been thinking he has been 'busted', well until today (AM) I thought so too. So did all the staff here.

Unfortunately, that is not the case. I got word from outlaw members and many others including moderators there that he has contacted people and talked to them on AIM. Now his story is that
he didn't get busted for steroids but rather for "beating up his girlfriend" (that's word for word what I Heard). Well, it sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. Of course, he's keeping all the money he took from people! what a fucking joke :rolleyes:

Turns out this was just a staight scam, and outlaw has put it out there already as a scam. They are saying he went to the "dark side" already; aka a scammer.

If you're upset, you're not the only one - everyone is pissed off!

You can start by calling western union and filing a fraud complaint on the transaction if you have been scammed. That's a start. If you paid with a credit card online, reverse the transaction.


Here are the latest "facts":
(keep in mind this is all coming from different sources)
-satch was not busted for steroids
-satch did run with people's money
-satch is online talking to people
-satch is NOT in jail
-satch was even trying to sell something online

This thread will remain open for people to vent, you can post info. etc...

I will try to get new information as it comes.
 
Indeed this should... I have a ton of things to say about this man.... Ill get me some shut eye first, and then post my thoughts and facts!!! Im curious about what indy has to say about all this now!! The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together!!

Much Respect,
Omega Labs


buffalo said:
This should be a good one in about a few hour's.
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I like to hear what Indy has to say about this. If this is true somebody owes Galaxy an apology. I thought something was fishy when he went missing for a week came back saying he was in a accident then posted he was open for business again 2 weeks later he was gone again.
 
DBBT said:
Indy....how do this settle, any of this sound familiar or did he have the wool over you eyes as well.
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Indy posted multiple times that he wont address questions regarding his dear friend satch any longer. I guess we'll see what he says.
 
juicedmohawk said:
Indy posted multiple times that he wont address questions regarding his dear friend satch any longer. I guess we'll see what he says.
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we'll see now if he finds out that he's really never been busted for gear...Satch is instant messaging people, geez sorry but that's just obvious he's kickin it at a coffe shop wireless.
 
DBBT said:
we'll see now if he finds out that he's really never been busted for gear...Satch is instant messaging people, geez sorry but that's just obvious he's kickin it at a coffe shop wireless.
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lol you caught me before I got to edit my post and put a :rolleyes: smiley in there. I agree with you :beer:
 
Retabolil2 said:
DBBT why you ask Indy? I think you were the one who helped Satch to push his garbage here!
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Seriously Bro - why do you make every-single thread a "personal battle" between you and DBBT?

Get over yourself and move on.................life's too short

Drama, Drama, Drama
 
Retabolil2 said:
Because Satch gave 10k karma points to DBBT some time ago and DBBT dropped a bomb at me :) Of course its not a good reason but he did :)
I think DBBT is responsible for this scam.
And I didnt start this. I can give you a link to a post which explains it all. Its just in DBBT`s nature to kick in the back. I never liked Satch but he had balls to bring me apologies for what he did and DBBT always supported Satch.
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link?

And satch sent his apologies to you for lying about EVERYTHING he claimed happened to him, when all that was happeneing was he was trying to sell his business and he DID make off with TONS of Good Bro's $$$$, before factually , as they say, going to The Dark Side - AKA - who cares what it is - he's lucky to be alive...............and that's NO JOKE
 
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Retabolil2 said:
Well I personally would add few fuckers pictures there just because they said Weizman is good GH! :evil:
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Reta, do me a favor and shut up. Don't post in this thread again.

I think every thread you've posted in has pushed itself towards absolute drama. If you got a problem with DBBT , PM him, and stop acting childish on the board!

Next time you start fights with members, I will just delete your posts.
 
DBBT don't post in response to RETA here, I don't want more drama.
 
itlnstln said:
link?

And satch sent his apologies to you for lying about EVERYTHING he claimed happened to him, when all that was happeneing was he was trying to sell his business and he DID make off with TONS of Good Bro's $$$$, before factually , as they say, going to The Dark Side - AKA - who cares what it is - he's lucky to be alive...............and that's NO JOKE
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you get scammed by him bro?
 
DBBT said:
you get scammed by him bro?
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Why is that of any importance?

just asking
 
I remember Indy, last week or so, saying that if he EVER found out his "friend" Satch was a Scammer - he's be the first to let us know.


INDY?????????????

Hello??????
 
How many times did Indy post that he had information that nobody else had? Fuck, I dont know maybe he had the wool pulled over his eyes too. He was a dick to people on the primo pushers thread so there may be a crow eating party at Indy's house.
 
juicedmohawk said:
How many times did Indy post that he had information that nobody else had? Fuck, I dont know maybe he had the wool pulled over his eyes too. He was a dick to people on the primo pushers thread so there may be a crow eating party at Indy's house.
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i don't know, indy could have easily been lied to and will now realize that, hopefully that's his story and not one of being in on a scam
 
Seriously, this is well f'ed up. Satch was one of the 'big men' around here, well-backed by everyone with a voice.

I'm not trying to be melodramatic but it casts some doubt on the whole system when someone can get to such high profile with what pretty much amounted to site backing and in some threads openly touting his wares, including pictures.

Where does this leave everyone and the whole system of trust and mod-verification we have?

Edit: I'm not trying to cast doubt on any of the mods in this forum. I hold them all in the highest regard and have only good to say about them. Somehow, Satch slipped through the cracks in the system.
 
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blut wump said:
Seriously, this is well f'ed up. Satch was one of the 'big men' around here, well-backed by everyone with a voice.

I'm not trying to be melodramatic but it casts some doubt on the whole system when someone can get to such high profile here with what pretty much amounted to site backing and in some threads pretty much openly touting his wares, including pictures.

Where does this leave everyone and the whole system of trust and mod-verification we have here?
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yep... not good at all... something that has been going on ever since i can remember.
 
Interesting....

To be honest i dont know what to believe anymore but the only thing that puzzled me was, if he was busted by interpol why is his Website still up?

Surely a good dealer would earn more money than a scammer, or does he hope to reappear again as somebody else.

Trust on one and expect the worse, and you will never be disappointed !!!
 
I don't know guys... With Indy, I have always been the one to give the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty. People come on these boards and make "friends" and put there trust in people that they have never met and back them up. Let Indy explain himself before we jump the gun. I think Indy is a good bro, myself. But for people who think otherwise, put the facts on the table and allow Indy to retort.
 
ur2insecure said:
Interesting....

To be honest i dont know what to believe anymore but the only thing that puzzled me was, if he was busted by interpol why is his Website still up?

Surely a good dealer would earn more money than a scammer, or does he hope to reappear again as somebody else.

Trust on one and expect the worse, and you will never be disappointed !!!
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I didn't believe the interpol information that was put out either. It didn't make sense. I also wonder why he would go scammer. He had an established reputation and I don't see why anyone would kill their reputation unless they were going to walk away from the whole biz.
 
Since MrX doesnt allow me to express my opinion here I personally asked Radar to approve this post. I believe I have a right to post what I think like all other members.
Ok, we all have seen that in fact Satch was pushing fake GTP stuff instead of the real deal but every single post he made about GTP was supported by many EF vets. I totally agree with blut wump that whole system of source check with mods is fucked up! And I do believe that guys who supported Satch in every fucking thread were well paid! Also Satch was blatantly open advertising his products on this board and many other places. Through many years on the EF board I`ve seen it only once and I think its not good for the board`s reputation. I believe that too many people had their vested interests behind Satch`s dirty advertising campaign! I mean look at GTP! It looks like shit! I`m not saying its good or bad but definitely doesnt look like bestseller! How come it became so popular? Very simple! backed by incredible amount of vets. Did they really like it that much? I dont think so but some gear for free helps alot! In my opinion there are many other products on the market that deserve better reputation than GTP, looks better, works better just doesnt get good promotion like GTP. Satch was an excellent promotion campaign engine! As I posted before there are smart people who can sell you your own shit and there are many other supporters who will always be there to tell you it smells like a rose!
I dont think there is a solution of this problem, hopefully newbies read it and will be more carefull with gear they choose next time.
 
buckwheat1 said:
I didn't believe the interpol information that was put out either. It didn't make sense. I also wonder why he would go scammer. He had an established reputation and I don't see why anyone would kill their reputation unless they were going to walk away from the whole biz.
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Maybe three months ago I got an e-mail from Satch, he was selling his web site or direct link from his web site, said he is going out of business soon. So it probably was a well planned action...
I wouldnt like to have direct link to gay porn web site for sure :)
 
Retabolil2 said:
Since MrX doesnt allow me to express my opinion here I personally asked Radar to approve this post.
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Actually, I asked you to stop the drama/fighting with DBBT, which you started in this thread. As long as you don't start drama with the members and act like a 10 year old, you can post anything you want. If you start your childish drama or fights in this thread again, I will just delete all your posts here, so STOP acting like a child! :rolleyes:
 
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Good posts, Ret.

I think what it comes down to, as does everything to do with AAS, is do your own research and take the word of anyone else as no more than a hint or guideline.

The mods here can help us to avoid a scammer we might not otherwise have spotted but no-one can say with 100% certainty that someone is clean only whether they know them to be dirty and whether they've had good dealings 'so far'.

I never liked the persona that Satch presented and wouldn't have bought a stick of chewing gum from him much less anything like gear. It's our own responsibility to look out for our own well-being.

Being online gives you the chance to exchange words with anyone you deal with here. Make sure you're happy with them before handing over your dosh and trust your gut-instincts. It's your health as well as your wallet that's on the line.
 
Re: Satch's Fag Porn site!!!

lol... this stuff is all over the place... at least the 4th time i've seen someone post that up in the last 45 mins.
 
THIS is no news to the people here that were night blinded by the light......it was obvious what happened here, same shit happened with KJUK way back, anyone remember that? Hell, his prices international were higher than most domestics anyways....plus he was selling shit
 
guys. I've never used steroids, so say what you will, this is an outsider's voice looking in.

I don't give a flying fuck WHO supported the dude, he was OPENLY POSTING ON THE BOARDS.

C'mon now, it was a matter of time before he got busted and you ended up losing your $$$ anyway. He got out when his "backorder log" was at its highest, and he had the most $$$ in his wallet.

I'd really like to think Indy had the wool pulled over his eyes as well, but who knows?

"Source check" my ass, this is no knock on the EF mods, but the guy was OPENLY POSTING AS A STEROID SOURCE. How the heck can you trust someone like that?

*Shakes head* alot of bro's lost a lot of cash to the bastid, and for that I'm sorry. Whole situation smells like my underwear after a meal of steak and beans and a hard workout
 
fistfullofsteel said:
no kidding?
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16th of december.

----- Forwarded message from [email protected] -----


bro...
im thinkin of goin out of biz in 3-4 months... the pressure is on
and i made enough money to retire.

im offering a link from my site straight to your site for a one
time fee.

if you want, this is a great opportunitey to get all my business!
i sell about 150k per month. net profits about $75k.

if interseted let me know. youre the first and only **** that ive
contacted so far about this.

thanks.
 
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kethnaab said:
guys. I've never used steroids, so say what you will, this is an outsider's voice looking in.

I don't give a flying fuck WHO supported the dude, he was OPENLY POSTING ON THE BOARDS.

C'mon now, it was a matter of time before he got busted and you ended up losing your $$$ anyway. He got out when his "backorder log" was at its highest, and he had the most $$$ in his wallet.

I'd really like to think Indy had the wool pulled over his eyes as well, but who knows?

"Source check" my ass, this is no knock on the EF mods, but the guy was OPENLY POSTING AS A STEROID SOURCE. How the heck can you trust someone like that?

*Shakes head* alot of bro's lost a lot of cash to the bastid, and for that I'm sorry. Whole situation smells like my underwear after a meal of steak and beans and a hard workout
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Great post, its only a matter of time before these guys start taking cash and running, i've been observing this internet game for years and i would bet my house on this....HE WILL COME BACK AS SOMEONE else with a new name, start building up his business, spend some money on advertising, buy off a few mods, give aways some juice to get some backing as a new source, gain everyones trust and then DO IT AGAIN........
 
Satch bullshitted loads of times, like how he had only been training for two years, how he never usedd HGH but then all of a sudden its a must have for PCT, then it was IGF, before that PRIM, FYI satch used to be on the board by the name of leancuisne, he got banned for being a lippy little shit.
 
I have seen much proof of but not ( irrefutable) to this point. This this finalizes it. I have spoken to many vets, mods, and members about the situation and what i thought.

When i learned the guy was supposedly bsuted i felt sorry for him as i would for anyone. However..i heard too much stuff to believe this...thru this i now know who has zero credibility on this board and should be dismissed.

Additionaly alot of people owe Radar an Apology....he was accused of helping this scumbag....when in reality he announced to watch out for a scam set up by satch in the comming months. Mr.X did alot of good here to which most dont or wont know about.

I never vouched for this scumbag as he always stank of maneur. What an asshole.
 
Retabolil2 said:
16th of december.

----- Forwarded message from [email protected] -----


bro...
im thinkin of goin out of biz in 3-4 months... the pressure is on
and i made enough money to retire.

im offering a link from my site straight to your site for a one
time fee.

if you want, this is a great opportunitey to get all my business!
i sell about 150k per month. net profits about $75k.

if interseted let me know. youre the first and only source that ive
contacted so far about this.

thanks.
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damn, that's some nice fucking money he was making if it was true. 75K * 12 months = $900,000 a year in cash = WOW
 
PolfaJelfa said:
I have seen much proof of but not ( irrefutable) to this point. This this finalizes it. I have spoken to many vets, mods, and members about the situation and what i thought.

When i learned the guy was supposedly bsuted i felt sorry for him as i would for anyone. However..i heard too much stuff to believe this...thru this i now know who has zero credibility on this board and should be dismissed.

Additionaly alot of people owe Radar an Apology....he was accused of helping this scumbag....when in reality he announced to watch out for a scam set up by satch in the comming months. Mr.X did alot of good here to which most dont or wont know about.

I never vouched for this scumbag as he always stank of maneur. What an asshole.
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link?
 
fistfullofsteel said:
damn, that's some nice fucking money he was making if it was true. 75K * 12 months = $900,000 a year in cash = WOW
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Actually those are Mcdonalds money. and what he said is bullshit he was making much more. Dont forget he was selling fake GTP and highest prices!
 
is this bloke in prison he sounds like ass wipe never knew this shit was goign on nieve may be but aint been around here for too long

anyway i hope that who ever helped him gets flushed out also

but remmeber vene if he goes there will always be someone coming into tak ehis place
 
Retabolil2 said:
16th of december.

----- Forwarded message from [email protected] -----


bro...
im thinkin of goin out of biz in 3-4 months... the pressure is on
and i made enough money to retire.

im offering a link from my site straight to your site for a one
time fee.

if you want, this is a great opportunitey to get all my business!
i sell about 150k per month. net profits about $75k.

if interseted let me know. youre the first and only **** that ive
contacted so far about this.

thanks.
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Wow

I been wondering why Satch was poping up on AIM the last few days.

P.S. Where is Indy now?
 
Not trying to toot my own horn, but I posted shit awhile ago about this a-hole. Indy even PM'd me telling me to delete my post.

Funny how he hasn't come one to defend himself.

Seeing as getigf is now what it is, you'd expect Indy if he had nothing to do with this to come defend himself.

Always go with your gut instincts.
 
d_o_c_ said:
Not trying to toot my own horn, but I posted shit awhile ago about this a-hole. Indy even PM'd me telling me to delete my post.

Funny how he hasn't come one to defend himself.

Seeing as getigf is now what it is, you'd expect Indy if he had nothing to do with this to come defend himself.

Always go with your gut instincts.
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he was either completely FOOLED by this happening or he was in on it......
 
Retabolil2 said:
Actually those are Mcdonalds money. and what he said is bullshit he was making much more. Dont forget he was selling fake GTP and highest prices!
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Just lunch money, get out!!!!! really??? damn, so how much do you think he was actually pulling in?
 
His prices were sky high. I'm surprised he got much business. Especially seeing as how he sold nothing but shit.

I have been told by a few that he was going around looking for fronts. Large ones at that before he bounced.

This do had every angle.
 
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KD1 said:
OMG my eyes! Please give some warning, that site is disgusting!
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are you kidding me... i was at my desk when i first opened that and *BAM* the first thing i see is this little cock staring at me. luckily no one around here saw it... :verygood:
 
fistfullofsteel said:
Just lunch money, get out!!!!! really??? damn, so how much do you think he was actually pulling in?
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When I first got here almost 3 years ago claimed to have houses and cars all over Cali, Greece and Isreal. I thought it was just internet bosting like all the 9 inch dick's around here but maybe there was truth to it.
 
satch.jpg
 
If you paid with a credit card online, reverse the transaction.
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People might want to think about cancelling the card in case he has a stash of numbers somewhere he is considering selling or running up bogus charges.
 
d_o_c_ said:
So what is up with the site? Is Omega done with it?
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Yea bro hes done there.... he stuck up for satch and sent out to everyone that he scammed for no cost! Then he comes back and takes the board out of omegas hands. Peice of shit!! So his site got redecorated!!! :p But he just changed it back..lol...

Worm
 
Not a surprise at all. Whoever said it before was right, a few months back when the dude took a little time off because of the "heat", then was up and running in a few weeks, you knew something was up. Not blaming anyone, but the biggest joke of all this was the blantent self advertising that was allowed to go on. If you were a newbie and were on the boards for 1 week, you could obviously figure out this man had what you wanted.....and with all the backing of him, you'd of figured you were going with the best. Just a F'n shame!!
 
This just goes to show that no matter how much backing and reputation someone develops, you can never be positive about them unless you know them personally. "Knowing" someone through a message board really means absolutely nothing when everything is said and done.

Satch was backed by just about everyone. There were only a few bros I spoke to that didn't support him (thx guys). Thank goodness I made the right decision. ;)
 
i wanna hear from these guys who are involved. or maybe they are part of it.......
 
PolfaJelfa said:
I have seen much proof of but not ( irrefutable) to this point. This this finalizes it. I have spoken to many vets, mods, and members about the situation and what i thought.

When i learned the guy was supposedly bsuted i felt sorry for him as i would for anyone. However..i heard too much stuff to believe this...thru this i now know who has zero credibility on this board and should be dismissed.

Additionaly alot of people owe Radar an Apology....he was accused of helping this scumbag....when in reality he announced to watch out for a scam set up by satch in the comming months. Mr.X did alot of good here to which most dont or wont know about.

I never vouched for this scumbag as he always stank of maneur. What an asshole.
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this is fucked up.I have some thing to say about this but i will keep my moth shut.dont want to get band.
 
tzan said:
Not a surprise at all. Whoever said it before was right, a few months back when the dude took a little time off because of the "heat", then was up and running in a few weeks, you knew something was up. Not blaming anyone, but the biggest joke of all this was the blantent self advertising that was allowed to go on. If you were a newbie and were on the boards for 1 week, you could obviously figure out this man had what you wanted.....and with all the backing of him, you'd of figured you were going with the best. Just a F'n shame!!
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Afuckingmen! The site allowing that kind of premotion of source to go on was complete crap. The best sources tend to be the ones you hear nothing about and lay the fuck low. Dealing with someone like Satch was just asking for trouble but I do feel for the people that got ripped off.
 
digimon7068 said:
No offense Ret, you're a stand up guy but, I don't recall that at all.
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Lots of vets pushed his "shit" here, a lot of them im sure receive perks such as free or reduced price gear, or at least large fronts.....can't hate them, thats just the way this online game works, i doubt any vets or mods here know for "sure" that this guy was a scammer or they wouldn't have backed him, ALTHOUGH, im sure there are at least one or two or three or more who were in on this bullshit
 
boston789 said:
I wonder if his gear can still be used?
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not all his gear was bunk.I would have to say if you were a big name around here he was giveing you the good stuff.he had to give some people the good stuff so he would have people to back him that his stuff was good.I allways got it.and I am sorry to say I was probly a poun in his plan.it all makes alote of sence to me now.there is alote more to my storry but this is all I will say. :worried:
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Afuckingmen! The site allowing that kind of premotion of source to go on was complete crap. The best sources tend to be the ones you hear nothing about and lay the fuck low. Dealing with someone like Satch was just asking for trouble but I do feel for the people that got ripped off.
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seems fishy to me, but everytime i ask certain questions, i get the same answers from the same people, pushing the same product.
 
A buddy of mine got some GTP EQ from him a few weeks before he went MIA...you think he should still use it? You think the EQ is complete shit?
 
I have a few thoughts on this whole mess.

Good for Mr X and the mods for discovering the truth and letting us know in an open and honest manner.

When I was new to the boards, a well-respected mod reccomended Satch as a source...I passed. There was just something I didn't like about just trusting someone's word that I really did not know.

I found several good sources on my own, domestic and overseas - you must do your own due diligence. Blind trust in anyone can get you into a world of hurt.

Be careful who you throw your loyalty to online. There are a lot of people who set themselves up to me mauled by the mob for being on the wrong side of the fence on this mess (and for good reason.)

I hope we can vent and put this behind us.


Bluesman
 
boston789 said:
A buddy of mine got some GTP EQ from him a few weeks before he went MIA...you think he should still use it? You think the EQ is complete shit?
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Me too.
 
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