SARMs triple stack daily timing + Andarine (S-4) side effects on vision

[Developower]

Hello everybody
I'm looking through several PEDs forums, so please don't crucify me if you see a similar post elsewhere, OK?

I'm about to run the well-known triple stack of Ostarine + Andarine + W-501516, but there are two critical topics that I need to get better focused before starting.

One is about the daily timing of the three components. I guess that they should not be taken all three at once: is there any optimal sequence around the clock?

The other is about the most serious short-term effect of Andarine, i.e. the yellow tint in daylight vision and the low-light vision impairment ("night blindness" or nyctalopia). Any of you guys has experienced those effects? How serious/annoying are they? Do they show up even if you are on a "5 days on + 2 days pause" cycle? How quickly the vision disturbance disappears?

Thank you very much folks!

 

[powerstump]

Ok. Im new here too Though you can use search button to get your answers.

I have been on s4 two weeks sides as follows split doses 25mg-- 50mg per day or conversion would = 1 full ML per day
as the bottle says 50mg/ML

1. Going from bright light to indoors needs adjustment everything is a blur.
2. Waking up in the middle of the night ( as why im here) total darkness couldn't see correctly
I saw a flash of light surrounded by a dark circle if that makes sense. or just picture the all seeing eye in Lord of the rings.
3. my eyes seem more Milky

 

[hurricane]

take osta and gw at the same time, its fine! they have the same half life,just about ..

s4 is not for everyone but pm dylan he is an s4 expert and will help you manipulate the sides, the best possible.If what he suggests dont work, you will have no choice but to ditch it.

 

[Developower]

1. Going from bright light to indoors needs adjustment everything is a blur.
2. Waking up in the middle of the night ( as why im here) total darkness couldn't see correctly
I saw a flash of light surrounded by a dark circle if that makes sense. or just picture the all seeing eye in Lord of the rings.
3. my eyes seem more Milky

Ok, DEFINITELY it scares the sh*t ot of me...
How long did the vision disturbance take to disappear after you finished taking S-4?

 

[hurricane]

Ok, DEFINITELY it scares the sh*t ot of me...
How long did the vision disturbance take to disappear after you finished taking S-4?

they go away very quickly.

 

[RickRock13]

I always dose all of my sarms together. There is no issue doing that whatsoever. With S4, you just have to start off slowly with it your first time assess tolerance, and slowly ramp up. Its awesome stuff so I highly recommend giving it a go. The sides are temporary and are gone just as soon as you come off of it

 

[powerstump]

Sorry for long delay. I forgot which forum the thread was in ..as there are so many here.. so as A newbie I went to search and looked up my name... lol I found it..

OK... yes I was scared shitless I even stepped on my dog! The side effect took at least 5 days to wear off. Im back on s4 and the sides are returning this time it took longer ( side effects) with same dose.. I was
told to do 5 on 2 off.

Now a good question would be: Would the sides still be there if one worked out even harder... meaning the s4 will go to your muscles for displacement and has no chance to effect your vision

 

[Arabian]

take osta and gw at the same time, its fine! they have the same half life,just about ..

s4 is not for everyone but pm dylan he is an s4 expert and will help you manipulate the sides, the best possible.If what he suggests dont work, you will have no choice but to ditch it.

^^^ This

 

[Developower]

Pardon me folks, but at this point I have quite a doubt.
When running a triple stack of (Ostarine + S 4 + GW-50), it seems that some people run it on all 7 days, while other take a two day break (5 ON/2 OFF).
My question is: the two days OFF are only for S 4 or for all three components of the stack???

 

[hurricane]

Pardon me folks, but at this point I have quite a doubt.
When running a triple stack of (Ostarine + S 4 + GW-50), it seems that some people run it on all 7 days, while other take a two day break (5 ON/2 OFF).
My question is: the two days OFF are only for S 4 or for all three components of the stack???

its for the s4 to control vision sides for those that need it.Everything else is 7 days a week.

 

[Developower]

its for the s4 to control vision sides for those that need it.Everything else is 7 days a week.

Thank you so much for answering SO fast! Just one final question about the fade-out of S4's nasty vision effects... you said that "they go away very quickly". Did you mean hours, days?... Due to my job, I am subject to medical checkups every year, and they include the (in)famous Ishihara color test (the yellow tint given by S-4 would be catastrophic there!) as well as reading letters and numbers in a semiobscured room... I guess you understand the reasons for my concern...

 

[powerstump]

Hello developower, here is My conclusion about S4.. It is labeled experimental so I don't know what side effects will be long term.. Dylan G response?

My sides are and I need to come off S4. maybe go to Ostarine.

1. Takes 5 days at least to get back to normal
2. 5 on 2 off not working well enough though it did take a little longer to get sides
3. Vision I cant see my finger in front of me at night
4. Vision is limited to a porthole type vision until light adjustment comes in.
5. All white lights are yellow
6. twilight time is like looking through sun glasses
7. day time light sensitivity
8. Night time driving is a slight risk.
9. Going down an alley at night not advised.. you'll never see who jacked you.

How is it working? GW + S4 is eating the visceral fat.. stomach bloat gone and I see a 2 pak stomach with underlining muscle. Muscle firmness solid.

 

[hurricane]

Thank you so much for answering SO fast! Just one final question about the fade-out of S4's nasty vision effects... you said that "they go away very quickly". Did you mean hours, days?... Due to my job, I am subject to medical checkups every year, and they include the (in)famous Ishihara color test (the yellow tint given by S-4 would be catastrophic there!) as well as reading letters and numbers in a semiobscured room... I guess you understand the reasons for my concern...

umm if its due to job related issues, i would make sure im off s4 a good month before the test.Just to play it safe, not something to fuck around with imo.

 

[Developower]

umm if its due to job related issues, i would make sure im off s4 a good month before the test.Just to play it safe, not something to fuck around with imo.

Yes, definitely. The time between the end of the cycle and my first checkup could range between a minimum of 2 months and a maximum of 4. I guess (and I hope to be right) that not only the side effects on vision would have faded away by that time, but any possible clue in blood and urine figures too (tests not aimed at drugs, just the standard urinework and bloodwork for routine checkups)

 

[hurricane]

Yes, definitely. The time between the end of the cycle and my first checkup could range between a minimum of 2 months and a maximum of 4. I guess (and I hope to be right) that not only the side effects on vision would have faded away by that time, but any possible clue in blood and urine figures too (tests not aimed at drugs, just the standard urinework and bloodwork for routine checkups)

you will be fine with that amount of time to prepare.