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Slyderkt

Slyderkt

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I use to post a lot on another form but took a couple year break.
Still working out regularly.
Looking to do a sarm cycle.
Stats
56 age
195 weight
10% bf mostly around center old man pouch.
6’ tall
Train 5-6 days a week
Hardgainer.
On TRT 1 ml twice per week test 800-900
Just coming off a bulk. Being a hard gainer bulk was not supper successful. My maint calories is around 2500. During bulk at around 4000 and only got up to 206 lb at 10bf..
Last two weeks dropped to 2500 calories and already down to 195.
My body likes to stay around 190 at 7-8% bf.
I use a inbody machine to test my body fat.
Bulked all this year and gained 5 lb muscle probably. Now looking to cut off the extra fluff I gained around my middle and lean out to see what I built.
I have run in the past GW, s4,s23,rad140, lgd, yk11,sr9009 all sarmsforsale
Thinking about GW50156, ACP 150 maybe yk11

What are y’all’s thoughts or recommendations?
 
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Slyderkt said:
I use to post a lot on another form but took a couple year break.
Still working out regularly.
Looking to do a sarm cycle.
Stats
56 age
195 weight
10% bf mostly around center old man pouch.
6’ tall
Train 5-6 days a week
Hardgainer.
On TRT 1 ml twice per week test 800-900
Just coming off a bulk. Being a hard gainer bulk was not supper successful. My maint calories is around 2500. During bulk at around 4000 and only got up to 206 lb at 10bf..
Last two weeks dropped to 2500 calories and already down to 195.
My body likes to stay around 190 at 7-8% bf.
I use a inbody machine to test my body fat.
Bulked all this year and gained 5 lb muscle probably. Now looking to cut off the extra fluff I gained around my middle and lean out to see what I built.
I have run in the past GW, s4,s23,rad140, lgd, yk11,sr9009 all sarmsforsale
Thinking about GW50156, ACP 150 maybe yk11

What are y’all’s thoughts or recommendations?
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welcome back to EF and your posting is welcome

this time I would recommend this cycle for you

week 1-12
cardarine gw 20mgs/day
yk11 10mgs/day
testolone rad 25mgs/day
n2guard 7caps /day
cardazol 3 caps preworkout

and pct nolvadex and n2generate 4 weeks

I did this cycle before with good success

since you posting here please post up a LOG journal so we can help you on your cycle

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
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top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My SARMS cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/my-contest-cycle-log-1507439.html
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/lymes-cycle-log-1507649.html
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/my-trenbolone-winstrol-log-1507351.html
 
cardarine 20mgs yk11 10mgs and rad maybe 25mgs with cardazol
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Slyderkt said:
I use to post a lot on another form but took a couple year break.
Still working out regularly.
Looking to do a sarm cycle.
Stats
56 age
195 weight
10% bf mostly around center old man pouch.
6’ tall
Train 5-6 days a week
Hardgainer.
On TRT 1 ml twice per week test 800-900
Just coming off a bulk. Being a hard gainer bulk was not supper successful. My maint calories is around 2500. During bulk at around 4000 and only got up to 206 lb at 10bf..
Last two weeks dropped to 2500 calories and already down to 195.
My body likes to stay around 190 at 7-8% bf.
I use a inbody machine to test my body fat.
Bulked all this year and gained 5 lb muscle probably. Now looking to cut off the extra fluff I gained around my middle and lean out to see what I built.
I have run in the past GW, s4,s23,rad140, lgd, yk11,sr9009 all sarmsforsale
Thinking about GW50156, ACP 150 maybe yk11

What are y’all’s thoughts or recommendations?
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Don't do a bulk if you added too much fat. Do a lean gain
 
Thanks guys for all the advice. I hoping to start in early October.
Side note. My diet is clean. Even during the bulk is was clean. I had a few more chest meals during that time but not many.
I always hear body builder say how hard it is too eat all the time. I got a small taste of it. 4000 calories of clean food is a shit tone of food. I eat 10 lbs of chicken breast per week. Occasional lean burger meat or turkey. Would eat more fish but expensive and harder to prep the way I do it.
Basic day is
Breakfast = 2 serving oatmeal and 4-5 egg whites
2-3 meals 250 g chicken breast, cup of brown rice or cream of wheat, and veggies
Fats. Avacado or almonds
And a protein shake after work out
Desert = chocolate rice cakes with PB fit and natural jelly.
I adjust portions to hit my macros.
Sounds boring but it is simple.
Simple is easier to stick with.
 
Slyderkt said:
Thanks guys for all the advice. I hoping to start in early October.
Side note. My diet is clean. Even during the bulk is was clean. I had a few more chest meals during that time but not many.
I always hear body builder say how hard it is too eat all the time. I got a small taste of it. 4000 calories of clean food is a shit tone of food. I eat 10 lbs of chicken breast per week. Occasional lean burger meat or turkey. Would eat more fish but expensive and harder to prep the way I do it.
Basic day is
Breakfast = 2 serving oatmeal and 4-5 egg whites
2-3 meals 250 g chicken breast, cup of brown rice or cream of wheat, and veggies
Fats. Avacado or almonds
And a protein shake after work out
Desert = chocolate rice cakes with PB fit and natural jelly.
I adjust portions to hit my macros.
Sounds boring but it is simple.
Simple is easier to stick with.
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besides cutting out deserts you need to work on your diet
we need you to start your LOG journal and go from there
 
Interesting that you say I need to work on my diet. I am not arguing just wondering why you say that.
When I say desert I am referring to when I need something sweet. Even then it’s a rice cake with PB fit and a natural jelly. Much better than cake, cookie, ice cream etc…
I don’t mind starting a food log. I have done many cycle logs and understand that pretty well.
What info would y’all consider a good food log. I am always up to receive criticism, accept others opinion, better my self and help others along the way.
 
Nice man. Thanks for sharing all those details. I like a nice boring diet too. The key to everything is consistency so if that is what helps you do it then I am all for it.
 
Dylan hooked you up big time. Only use our forum approved sponsored sources like sarms.forsale and umbrella labs!
 
Just finished an order with Umbrella. Decided to try them.
I have used Sarms for sale in past and no complaints.
Thanks for everyone’s options. I am gonna keep it simple.
Gw 50156, weeks 1-16
ACP 105 weeks 1-12
Rad 140 weeks 1-12
I’m on TRT



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the_alcatraz said:
welcome back to EF and your posting is welcome

this time I would recommend this cycle for you

week 1-12
cardarine gw 20mgs/day
yk11 10mgs/day
testolone rad 25mgs/day
n2guard 7caps /day
cardazol 3 caps preworkout

and pct nolvadex and n2generate 4 weeks

I did this cycle before with good success

since you posting here please post up a LOG journal so we can help you on your cycle

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/
top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My SARMS cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/my-contest-cycle-log-1507439.html
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/lymes-cycle-log-1507649.html
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/my-trenbolone-winstrol-log-1507351.html
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Why would you suggest a pct for someone on trt?

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It’s all good
A lot of folks are giving great advice. I have been on TRT Long enough to know what PCT is needed And when. People somtimes don’t catch that note and add a PCT when recommending to me.

Everyone just trying to make sure we are all doing this stuff wisely.
You are correct.
With this cycle I won’t need a PCT


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Slyderkt said:
It’s all good
A lot of folks are giving great advice. I have been on TRT Long enough to know what PCT is needed And when. People somtimes don’t catch that note and add a PCT when recommending to me.

Everyone just trying to make sure we are all doing this stuff wisely.
You are correct.
With this cycle I won’t need a PCT


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Yeah, I just think its important to hold ppl accountable for the drugs they suggest others use.
It's probably all in good intention, but copy-pasting a setup not understanding the point of things is of no use and potentially dangerous.

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the_alcatraz said:
even on TRT he can do a PCT boost wouldnt hurt but not required
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What is he supposed to boost while on TRT?
Every drug has side-effects, so it's kinda silly taking something with a negative effect when there are no positive.
I did not intend to bash your comment, but I was curious to know if you had missed the TRT-part, or if you could back up why you suggest a PCT to someone on TRT. If the latter I am geniunly interested in hearing why.

Ppl need to start questioning what others write, if not this will only become a parroting community.

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It is actually a good conversation.
There a lot of folks just starting on TRT.
They may not know this is one of the benefits of being on TRT.
Most cycle require a Post cycle . That helps get your test back up. During most cycles it will drop your test levels.
This is why most recommend a test base during most cycles.
Being on TRT is is your TESt base. It helps regulate your test and typically you do not have as large of a swing during cycle. Then when cycle stops you don’t have to kick start your test. Just continue TRT
Remember TRT is test replacement therapy. Meting it replaces your natural test production. This is why once you start it you stay on it.

I think I stated this all correct and hope it is useful to some. Of course correct me if I have something off base.

Open conversation is great!!
I don’t preach to folks. But if you want my opinion I will gladly pass that along. And I love learning.


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Slyderkt said:
It is actually a good conversation.
There a lot of folks just starting on TRT.
They may not know this is one of the benefits of being on TRT.
Most cycle require a Post cycle . That helps get your test back up. During most cycles it will drop your test levels.
This is why most recommend a test base during most cycles.
Being on TRT is is your TESt base. It helps regulate your test and typically you do not have as large of a swing during cycle. Then when cycle stops you don’t have to kick start your test. Just continue TRT
Remember TRT is test replacement therapy. Meting it replaces your natural test production. This is why once you start it you stay on it.

I think I stated this all correct and hope it is useful to some. Of course correct me if I have something off base.

Open conversation is great!!
I don’t preach to folks. But if you want my opinion I will gladly pass that along. And I love learning.


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Exactly, I'm on TRT myself.

I just find it a bit worrying that someone with close to 35k posts don't seem to understand how TRT works - and yet gives what pretty much is a medical advice on the subject.
That's why I'm interested to hear if he thinks of any other reason for a PCT other than the obvious one for someone not on TRT.

I'm trying to create some conversation and discussion on opinions in here. That's a great way to learn, even if we don't agree. But seems alot just wanna parrot and not respond.

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doejohn said:
What is he supposed to boost while on TRT?
Every drug has side-effects, so it's kinda silly taking something with a negative effect when there are no positive.
I did not intend to bash your comment, but I was curious to know if you had missed the TRT-part, or if you could back up why you suggest a PCT to someone on TRT. If the latter I am geniunly interested in hearing why.

Ppl need to start questioning what others write, if not this will only become a parroting community.
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as an example using HCG and nolvadex in Trt has been shown to help your natural test levels stay in order
check the studies
 
the_alcatraz said:
as an example using HCG and nolvadex in Trt has been shown to help your natural test levels stay in order
check the studies
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What natural test levels?

TRT are for most a life-long situation from having little to no natural testosterone production. I'm not talking about a cruise, bridge, or a small cycle - but actual TRT. Testosterone REPLACEMENT Therapy.
Our guy here is 56 years old, my best bet is he's not going to come off TRT to have kids or whatever.

If you have certain studies you want me to check, please link them.

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Hell NO!
No more kids for me!!!
Hahahahaha
I finally got them out of my house.
Now I am living my best life. My wife and I sold everything. Down sized and live in a condo down town. I never thought I would like this kind of life. Wanted a big shop and acres.
Glad I let he talk me into this. Now I am living for me. Love my family cause they are spectacular. But even more, know I love me!!
My natural test 5 years ago was 100 at best.
Even on TRT my body eats test like crazy.


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I did HCG last year cause a dr said try it. It did nothing for me. Not saying it is bad just no positives for me. Yes my nuts got a little more plump.
Nolvadex- I am going to ask my dr to give some now. I currently take arimidex to control estrogen. But I think I had better results reducing the size of tumor in my chest with Nolvadex.
I did a run of dbol and it made it flare up. I made the mistake of thinking the arimidex would prevent it.
Like always say what works for one is not always the same for you.


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doejohn said:
What natural test levels?

TRT are for most a life-long situation from having little to no natural testosterone production. I'm not talking about a cruise, bridge, or a small cycle - but actual TRT. Testosterone REPLACEMENT Therapy.
Our guy here is 56 years old, my best bet is he's not going to come off TRT to have kids or whatever.

If you have certain studies you want me to check, please link them.
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check pubmed for HCG HMG recovery during TRT you'll see
 
the_alcatraz said:
check pubmed for HCG HMG recovery during TRT you'll see
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Your suggestion was Nolvadex in a PCT though, not HCG during TRT.
But sure HCG during TRT has it's place. Mostly for fertility-reasons wich is irrelevant for our guy here, I doubt he is planning anytime soon to come of TRT to try restore his natural levels given his age and after years of TRT.

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Slyderkt said:
I did HCG last year cause a dr said try it. It did nothing for me. Not saying it is bad just no positives for me. Yes my nuts got a little more plump.
Nolvadex- I am going to ask my dr to give some now. I currently take arimidex to control estrogen. But I think I had better results reducing the size of tumor in my chest with Nolvadex.
I did a run of dbol and it made it flare up. I made the mistake of thinking the arimidex would prevent it.
Like always say what works for one is not always the same for you.


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What dosage and protocol do your doctor prescribe the TRT?
where I live we only have the public health service prescribing TRT. And only options are 1000mg Nebido every 10-14 weeks depending on the blood tests of the individual, or androgel. I've been trying to convince my doctor to atleast let me pin more frequent to avoid the dips when closing in on week 10-12, but she's already in a fizz from me pinning it myself instead of doing it at the doctors office...
Not in my wildest dream I'd imagine she'd prescribe me nolvadex for any reason, she would just increase the length between my injections to lower test-levels....
If you are that prone to seeing estrogenic side-effects I'd be careful with anything that aromatizes into estrogen tbh.

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Things are a little easier here. But finding the right dr is still a chore.
We have low t centers here now. I used them for several years since I am scared of needles. I am starting to get a little better with them now but still don’t like them.
Remember I am an odd ball and every dr says the same thing. They do not know what my body is doing with all the test. Basically I metabolize it fast and burn it up.
I have blood coming back in couple day so I can give more accurate numbers. I was doing 320 mg per week and levels where 800-900 tops.
I am taking arimidex to keep estrogen in check.
Currently with my new dr I am doing 200 mg twice a week.
We will see what this does.
This not a normal TRT. It’s about double.
I developed a lump in the chest but tested twice over two years and it is not gyno or cancer.
I ran dbol with Nolvadex and was ok . I ran dbol again with arimidex and that was a no go.
I am done with dbol.
Either it’s doesn’t work for me or I got crap. I did get it from a source here but I won’t say who cause I’m not sure it was bad or just me.
I am just not some one that get big muscles. So I’m just gonna keep being healthy and enjoy some sarm cycles and love life.
I will probably only run this trt at this level till end of year while in this sarm cycle I am now starting.
Then I will back off this dosage.


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I'd say it's 3-4 times a "true" TRT, and pretty much a cycle [emoji1]
I'm on 1000mg every 12 week, wich is ~80mgs a week. I would not say no to 200mg a week if I had the chance though. I'll prolly just do the TRT myself though after some time, but that'll loose me my prescription. And just starting some BP-meds just now, so don't wanna mess around too much till that's settled.
800-900ng/dl is well in the upper normal range, but I'd imagine you'd be higher with that dosage.
How are your other blood markers?
Ever considered going with a lower test-dosage and instead add a low dosage of primo or alike?

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I have not considered Primo.
I just got blood test back and I finally have seen a true high number.
1500 test and free is 50.
Estroidalnis high.
This makes me happy to see. I know that sounds crazy but now I know what it take to get a high number like this and I know what I need to do to protect my self better. Now when I want to blast I know what my body takes. I have already backed off this dose.
I do not need to run this high.
I get to speak with Dr in couple weeks. We will review these finding and dial our game plan in. I am new with this dr so we are still figuring things out a bit.
I am starting a Sarms cycle so that will suppress a littl bit and reduce my dose and all should be perfect.
I will research primo and it’s sides. I am going to avoid anything that converts estrogen.


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Slyderkt said:
I have not considered Primo.
I just got blood test back and I finally have seen a true high number.
1500 test and free is 50.
Estroidalnis high.
This makes me happy to see. I know that sounds crazy but now I know what it take to get a high number like this and I know what I need to do to protect my self better. Now when I want to blast I know what my body takes. I have already backed off this dose.
I do not need to run this high.
I get to speak with Dr in couple weeks. We will review these finding and dial our game plan in. I am new with this dr so we are still figuring things out a bit.
I am starting a Sarms cycle so that will suppress a littl bit and reduce my dose and all should be perfect.
I will research primo and it’s sides. I am going to avoid anything that converts estrogen.


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Yeah, primo does not convert to estrogen. It'll actually lower it slightly, but at a dosage at 1-200mg per week as a + in a TRT+ that will likely be insignificant.
Sarms will only suppress your natural testosterone production, wich you don't have.

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