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Has anyone ever ordered their Gear and it comes in sachets? What do you guys think about these? I would think its easier to scam with but i wanted some other advice.
 
jammastajai said:
Has anyone ever ordered their Gear and it comes in sachets? What do you guys think about these? I would think its easier to scam with but i wanted some other advice.
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True....it could be easier to scam. But it is also better through customs. And they are cheaper. But I would never use any of the stealth products again except I would give Advanced a try. The others hurt like a bitch!
 
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st8grad said:
True....it could be easier to scam. But it is also better through customs. And they are cheaper. But I would never use any of the stealth products again except I would give Advanced S.. a try. The others hurt like a bitch!
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Edit that supplier . . Just take off half of the name.

Or like Xrsist said, it's gonna get locked.
 
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i had an order of sachets get taken by customs. so theres no guarantee on that one like everybody seems to think. unless it had something to do with the idiot who sent them as his packing methods really sucked. quality is good and the price is right....if you get em.
 
Why lock the thread? It's not like the "company" they are talking about isn't a sponser here. Let's be real here.
 
searay said:
i had an order of sachets get taken by customs. so theres no guarantee on that one like everybody seems to think. unless it had something to do with the idiot who sent them as his packing methods really sucked. quality is good and the price is right....if you get em.
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A.S guarantees %100 delivery. But... you need to supply them w/ a customs note saying it was confiscated.
 
if it is the 5ML size than it is garbage, if it is the 20 ML size then it is top notch!!
 
jammastajai said:
Has anyone ever ordered their Gear and it comes in sachets? What do you guys think about these? I would think its easier to scam with but i wanted some other advice.
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Im currently using the 20ml satchets. Current cycle is 200mg deca ew, 500mg sustanon 250 ew, and 50mg e/d t-bol. As of week 5 I'm not too impressed. I've gained 5 solid pounds while my diet, training, and sleep are dead on. 4200-4500cal, 250g plus high quality protien(chix breast,egg whites, and whey protien drink), and 500g plus carbs, mostly all complex. The only simple glucose I take in is the morning oj and preworkout grape juice. I feel I should be a little further along than this so I may try another supplier on my next cycle. Just my two cents.
 
so your pissed about 5 solid pounds? Hell it takes 2-4 weeks before you get the full effeect of what your on? 5 lbs of solid muscle isnt bad imo.
 
magico said:
Im currently using the 20ml satchets. Current cycle is 200mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ew, 500mg sustanon 250 ew, and 50mg e/d t-bol. As of week 5 I'm not too impressed. I've gained 5 solid pounds while my diet, training, and sleep are dead on. 4200-4500cal, 250g plus high quality protien(chix breast,egg whites, and whey protien drink), and 500g plus carbs, mostly all complex. The only simple glucose I take in is the morning oj and preworkout grape juice. I feel I should be a little further along than this so I may try another supplier on my next cycle. Just my two cents.
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have you done other cycles to compare this against?
 
magico said:
Im currently using the 20ml satchets. Current cycle is 200mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ew, 500mg sustanon 250 ew, and 50mg e/d t-bol. As of week 5 I'm not too impressed. I've gained 5 solid pounds while my diet, training, and sleep are dead on. 4200-4500cal, 250g plus high quality protien(chix breast,egg whites, and whey protien drink), and 500g plus carbs, mostly all complex. The only simple glucose I take in is the morning oj and preworkout grape juice. I feel I should be a little further along than this so I may try another supplier on my next cycle. Just my two cents.
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No you are doing well bro. The 20ml sachets are pharm grade. 5 solid pounds (muscle only) is really all guys get from an entire cycle....we just like to think otherwise. Easy on those carbs guy. 500g per day?!
 
negative...from watching one step closer...could be BS but i doubt it...then again, you cant build mass with out carbs..
 
magico said:
Im currently using the 20ml satchets. Current cycle is 200mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ew, 500mg sustanon 250 ew, and 50mg e/d t-bol. As of week 5 I'm not too impressed. I've gained 5 solid pounds while my diet, training, and sleep are dead on. 4200-4500cal, 250g plus high quality protien(chix breast,egg whites, and whey protien drink), and 500g plus carbs, mostly all complex. The only simple glucose I take in is the morning oj and preworkout grape juice. I feel I should be a little further along than this so I may try another supplier on my next cycle. Just my two cents.
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LOL bro you need to absorb what you're saying while you're saying it.either you're training like a pussy and not heavy enough and not at full intensity or not eating as much as you state you are.Mavafanculo brings up a great point,how many cycles have you ran previous to this one to even compare it to?

I've found all of the 20mls satchets to be full strength and with proper training,eating and rest you can get as good effects and gains as you could off of any legitimate gear.

it sounds like you're expecting to look like ronnie coleman off of the program you're running,hate to break the news but that's not going to happen bro.
 
hyp1 said:
LOL bro you need to absorb what you're saying while you're saying it.either you're training like a pussy and not heavy enough and not at full intensity or not eating as much as you state you are.Mavafanculo brings up a great point,how many cycles have you ran previous to this one to even compare it to?

I've found all of the 20mls satchets to be full strength and with proper training,eating and rest you can get as good effects and gains as you could off of any legitimate gear.

it sounds like you're expecting to look like ronnie coleman off of the program you're running,hate to break the news but that's not going to happen bro.
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This is my first cyle so I have nothing to compare it to. Thats why I was thinking I would try another supplier, so I really would have something to compare. I really dont know what to expect from this cycle.It's just with all the counterfits and scammers, unless I actually send the stuff to get tested at srcs, its kinda a guess as to what to expect from a cylcle. I also need to mention I have absolutley no side effects, no bloat, no acne, no hair loss or gyno so it just makes me wonder what I actually am getting. I am not trying to flame any supplier, I'm just new to aas so I was going to try another one for some sort of reference.

The diet is right, I am taking some time off from work this year so all I do is sleep, eat, train, and liftweights.I keep everything I eat logged into an excell spreadsheet so I know exactly where I stand everyday.
 
magico said:
This is my first cyle so I have nothing to compare it to. Thats why I was thinking I would try another supplier, so I really would have something to compare. I really dont know what to expect from this cycle.It's just with all the counterfits and scammers, unless I actually send the stuff to get tested at srcs, its kinda a guess as to what to expect from a cylcle. I also need to mention I have absolutley no side effects, no bloat, no acne, no hair loss or gynecomastia so it just makes me wonder what I actually am getting. I am not trying to flame any supplier, I'm just new to anabolic androgenic steroids so I was going to try another one for some sort of reference.

The diet is right, I am taking some time off from work this year so all I do is sleep, eat, train, and liftweights.I keep everything I eat logged into an excell spreadsheet so I know exactly where I stand everyday.
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just as I thought bro,I wasn't trying to insult you at all just being direct.you don't even have the slightest idea as to what to expect and you're frustrated.whats ironic is not everyone experiences estrogen side effects,I'm telling you this because I've ran quite a few cycles over the years and I've only experienced bloating on doses of dianabol.everything else that never happened at all.i'm not prone to gyno,water retention,hair loss or anger(well when I do trenbolone anger is another fucking story but I keep it in check,lol)
always keep shit on hand like nolvadex and letro incase you experience side effects though,I can't state how important that is.

if you ordered from the 20mls satchets place your gear is legit,trust me on that.I've been using it primarily for quite some time and love the strength of it.has your appetite increased substantially?thats one of the first signs that I experience(that and strength increase) and usually occurs about the 4th or 5th week.have some patience bro,continue to train seriously heavy with great form,get a shitload of rest,keep eating like crazy.....increase your protein intake and your carbs to an extent for optimal gains.

best of luck to you bro :)
 
st8grad said:
No you are doing well bro. The 20ml sachets are pharm grade. 5 solid pounds (muscle only) is really all guys get from an entire cycle....we just like to think otherwise. Easy on those carbs guy. 500g per day?!
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I need all the carbs I can get because I'm a training in muay thai kickboxing and mma so I need the energy to keep up with the younger fighters. I'm 34 and competing against teens and twentysomethings. I spend four hours a day training, 5 days a week. 2hours lifting weights and 2 hours in mma/kickboxing.
 
magico said:
I need all the carbs I can get because I'm a training in muay thai kickboxing and mma so I need the energy to keep up with the younger fighters. I'm 34 and competing against teens and twentysomethings. I spend four hours a day training, 5 days a week. 2hours lifting weights and 2 hours in mma/kickboxing.
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LOL HENCE YOUR LACK OF FUCKING WEIGHT GAIN BRO
you're burning calories and carbs you don't fucking have
 
i laugh hysterically when people think that juice will make them look like a pro bodybuilder lol....it takes years and years of hard training, diet and tons of chemicals to look like a pro lol ...after all those long years of die hard training and juicing u most likely still wont look like a pro because you dont have the genetics!
 
errn247 said:
so your pissed about 5 solid pounds? Hell it takes 2-4 weeks before you get the full effeect of what your on? 5 lbs of solid muscle isnt bad imo.
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not pissed at all, just have nothing to reference this cycle to. All I really know is I need another 15lbs by January to get into the next weight class.
 
hyp1 said:
e 20mls satchets to be full strength and with proper training,eating and rest you can get as good effects and gains as you could off of any legitimate gear.
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The 20ml satchets are legitimate gear arent they? I was thinking about ordering from them but i have heard a lot of you say you just got strength increases. I could give a hell about strength its all about size for me ;-) Of course size comes with strength. But what im asking is, if i order test e in the 20ml sachets, is it the same test E i can get from a different source who ships in vials?
 
jammastajai said:
The 20ml satchets are legitimate gear arent they? I was thinking about ordering from them but i have heard a lot of you say you just got strength increases. I could give a hell about strength its all about size for me ;-) Of course size comes with strength. But what im asking is, if i order testosterone enanthate in the 20ml sachets, is it the same testosterone enanthate i can get from a different source who ships in vials?
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definitely legitimate bro,I've been using their gear for months now and am happy with the results which were strength,appetite increases and muscular weight gains.

their gear is exactly what it is stated as being,testosterone is testosterone whether it comes in a presealed vial or a satchet.stop obsessing about the way shit is packaged........

what I do recommend is ordering some presealed vials though to transfer your gear into after it arrives...but that's at your discretion........I just don't like the idea of my gear setting around in pins for months on end.
 
hyp1 said:
just as I thought bro,I wasn't trying to insult you at all just being direct.you don't even have the slightest idea as to what to expect and you're frustrated.whats ironic is not everyone experiences estrogen side effects,I'm telling you this because I've ran quite a few cycles over the years and I've only experienced bloating on doses of dianabol.everything else that never happened at all.i'm not prone to gynecomastia,water retention,hair loss or anger(well when I do trenbolone anger is another fucking story but I keep it in check,lol)
always keep shit on hand like nolvadex and Femera - letrozole - incase you experience side effects though,I can't state how important that is.

if you ordered from the 20mls satchets place your gear is legit,trust me on that.I've been using it primarily for quite some time and love the strength of it.has your appetite increased substantially?thats one of the first signs that I experience(that and strength increase) and usually occurs about the 4th or 5th week.have some patience bro,continue to train seriously heavy with great form,get a shitload of rest,keep eating like crazy.....increase your protein intake and your carbs to an extent for optimal gains.

best of luck to you bro :)
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Thanks for the good wishes. I'm not really frustrated I was just hoping for more "kick." I'm only reaching the halway point of a 10 week cycle so if I can gain and keep 10lbs I'd be really happy.
I am using the t bol instead of d-bol because, as I understand it, it is less prone to cause water retention and hair loss. I also am using sustanon instead of test e because I understand it also causes less water retention.I don't have anger issues either, but I feel thats because I'm a naturally pretty laid back person. I have AG nolvedex for pct. Do u think I should add hcg as well? I want to keep as much of the gains as possible.
 
sachets are same stuff that is sent in vials as long as source is legit. plus they are cheaper. But seem like custom is getting alot better at notice what they are so dont believe they are 100% to arrive at ur doorstep
 
magico said:
Thanks for the good wishes. I'm not really frustrated I was just hoping for more "kick." I'm only reaching the halway point of a 10 week cycle so if I can gain and keep 10lbs I'd be really happy.
I am using the t bol instead of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - because, as I understand it, it is less prone to cause water retention and hair loss. I also am using sustanon instead of testosterone enanthate because I understand it also causes less water retention.I don't have anger issues either, but I feel thats because I'm a naturally pretty laid back person. I have AG nolvedex for PCT - post cycle therapy - . Do u think I should add HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - as well? I want to keep as much of the gains as possible.
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you cant use nolvadex only for pct....all nolvadex does is block estrogen it wont kick your natural test back on you need clomid and or hcg as well
 
satchet's are ok but i would never use something in a satchet when i could use gear that come's in a vial. Plus i believe the people that use these satchet bags order them from overseris which in my opinion is a risk that is no longer needed with all the excellent domestic option's.
 
imo sachet seem like it would be better option to get through custom for ones who dont have a domestic source. I order oversea and never get a snag yet but wait get long and longer everytime only downside but seem like it alot lower than 97% success now.
 
damnit yuou guys got me worried now...i bought a whole crap load of the 5ml satchets from overseas...i think its a reputable shop though...i mean they sent everything i ordered..should i be worried??
 
SYNCMASTER1 said:
damnit yuou guys got me worried now...i bought a whole crap load of the 5ml satchets from overseas...i think its a reputable shop though...i mean they sent everything i ordered..should i be worried??
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I wouldn't worry until they don't show up. I used to order international before i woke up and went domestic and i never got ripped off. Hope you get your stuff.
 
keep your orders reasonable in size etc, order no more than 2 cycles worth at a time etc. You'll be fine satchets are packaged professionally and discreet.
 
SYNCMASTER1 said:
damnit yuou guys got me worried now...i bought a whole crap load of the 5ml satchets from overseas...i think its a reputable shop though...i mean they sent everything i ordered..should i be worried??
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give it atleast 1months lately it seem it take little longer. i really wouldnt worry unless u got crap load of gear. u usually just get letter in mail from custom saying they got your gear if u only have enough for personal use. If that happen just change address and reorder if you want to try again. how ago did u order it?
 
when you have no carb's in your body at all your body's secondary fuel source is muscle. carb's are very important to anyones diet.dont get my previous statement confused with when your body still has carbs and uses fats for a secondary fuel when you are not moving i.e sleeping or watching tv.
 
ive already got it is what i meant....im just worried bc im takin tren ace(50mg ed) and test e(500/week) and i feel no different yet ( i thought tren ace was a fast acting steroid) plus some of u guys say the 5ml sachets are no good, so now im kinda worried i got bunk shit?
 
SYNCMASTER1 said:
ive already got it is what i meant....im just worried bc im takin trenbolone ace(50mg ed) and testosterone enanthate(500/week) and i feel no different yet ( i thought trenbolone ace was a fast acting steroid) plus some of u guys say the 5ml sachets are no good, so now im kinda worried i got bunk shit?
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Give tren a some time bro.... shit is great when it kicks in!!!!!!!
 
SYNCMASTER1 said:
ive already got it is what i meant....im just worried bc im takin trenbolone ace(50mg ed) and testosterone enanthate(500/week) and i feel no different yet ( i thought trenbolone ace was a fast acting steroid) plus some of u guys say the 5ml sachets are no good, so now im kinda worried i got bunk shit?
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they aren't fake or anything, its just that for me they burn like hell going in and they all are under 5ML, something like 4.5 which is BS cuz you cant get a full 5 shots.
 
SYNCMASTER1 said:
ive already got it is what i meant....im just worried bc im takin trenbolone ace(50mg ed) and testosterone enanthate(500/week) and i feel no different yet ( i thought trenbolone ace was a fast acting steroid) plus some of u guys say the 5ml sachets are no good, so now im kinda worried i got bunk shit?
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for me I felt the trenbolone acetate kick in full force the second week,I usually don't feel the testosterone enanthate kick in until the 4th week.I've never fucked with the 5ml satchets,but I'm fond as hell with the 20mls ones from a different company.give it time bro,at least 2 weeks before you start pre judging the effects of the trenbolone acetate and at least 4 weeks to judge the testosterone enanthate.
 
holy ghost said:
yeah bro

trenbolone is god
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trenbolone acetate fucking rocks bro,without a doubt :)

my aggression became 4 fold though,but strength increases were fucking mindblowing,just had to keep my mind in check at all times......besides that it was one of the most rewarding androgens I've ever used.
 
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