forma stanzol is twice the product formeron is, so if you had that much luck with it, imagine how good formastanzol is... i kicked formastanzol in mid helladrol cycle and it shredded the fck out of me... i was doing two pumps on my chest and three on my abs both a.m. and p.m. and the results were so awesome... all you have to do is read the transaderm facts that i wrote on this thread to see all the awesome benefits from it bro... it is one of the best products out there and running these two together is simply amazing...