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Thanks guys!
It is very much appreciated.
It is very much appreciated.
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fitwitlem
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Ross, im interested too in input, all traditional pct nolva clomid hcg, and all else works to get me boys runnin good but i just cant seem to find the right combo/timing to keep gyno away. it inhibits my cycle cause using test fuks me up in that regard, and i lioke my test. i never messed with all the newer serums floatn around, read up on sum, but havnt used them, your input would be very helpful to me personally im sure, im gettn it goin again seriously after 1.5 year break, instead of diking around wit alittle here alittle there. im takn this cycle hard, like i used too, so i ask whaty do u think?
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fitwitlem said:
Have you ever used an Aromatase Inhibitor like Arimidex?
It is extremely effective and all I have ever needed.
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fitwitlem
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it will be here next week, along with proviron, hcg, nova, clomid, what about prolactin associated wit tren, i keep reading that dostinex is what alot r using? like i said got all traditional stuff coming but everything else, trying to keep reading up on all this shit, it reaaly wasnt prevelant not long ago, so i dont know much, there r so many serums or whatever the fuck they r. thanks for anything you share wit me- Ross - said:
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fitwitlem said:
Your problems are FOREVER SOLVED!
Arimidex and Proviron is ALL you will ever need.
Except when you run Nandrolone(Deca) or Trenbolone(Tren). In this case, you MUST use Cabergoline(Dostinex)
I have a thread about CABERGOLINE going right now. Check it out: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=544604
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- Ross - said:
Ok, so shutdown is almost nevr to really happen, in fact the opposite is actually true that it makes you avoid low levels all together, wher to get this? and how to take it with all things i mentioned having and at what dosage and timing. also does this many different names? will it have effectiviness as far as gyno too, im gonna b takn tren for sure, maybe a bit of deca,(leftover), sorry for alot of ?s but im tryn to really get everything in sync here
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fitwitlem
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hello?
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CO B-man said:
Good point, some people don't need ANY ancillaries! Good genetics.
On a side not, using Arimidex once every 4 or 5 days does not allow the drug to reach it's peak active concentrations.
Arimidex needs to be taken for at least 5-10 days CONSECUTIVELY before an inhibition of aromatase can occur.
CO B-man
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Good to know. Then on that theory I just wasted that stuff and really it was just the AIFM that helped if even I needed that. I know with DBol it took my bloat away almost completely overnight! Dbol for two weeks with no AI and then throw one in I have never urinated so much in my life. Think I lost like 5 pounds that night alone! loL!- Ross - said:
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thegoodfoods
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Ross, I know you started your beginning cycles conservatively w/o Test and gained a decent amount of muscle. So how many cycles have you run?
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Ross
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I have run many cycles over the past 5 years. Once you pass your 5th cycle, you stop counting. My physique is a constant work in progress.
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fitwitlem
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I hear that, ive been off and on for 1.5 with nuutn too seriuos until now im goin full blown again, see what happens in the coming weeks, cant wait- Ross - said:I have run many cycles over the past 5 years. Once you pass your 5th cycle, you stop counting. My physique is a constant work in progress.
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fitwitlem said:I hear that, ive been off and on for 1.5 with nuutn too seriuos until now im goin full blown again, see what happens in the coming weeks, cant wait
We'll do it together brotha.
I am excited FOR you.
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fitwitlem
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as long as i keep gyno at bay, itll be all good, i guess i should get that caber just to be sure! Bro, i get super excited even thinkn bout it, its crzy- Ross - said:
drwoody
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- Ross - said:
Currently running Test E 400mg/week,37.5mg Proviron/Day,.5mg Armidex EOD.
Guess what,I startred getting gyno,so Adex and Proviron is not all you'll ever need,it depends on the individual.This cycle has been a learning one for me,personally from now on if I run test I run Letro,2 days on Letro and my gyno has already started to subside.
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drwoody said:
I can only speak for pharmaceutical grade products(with the excption of AG)
If you are using Schering Proviron, and AG Arimidex, you should be fine.
If not, you are the ABSOLUTE minority brotha! But hey, there is always LETRO!
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whatawaste
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atleast ross posted a pic unlike some other famous gurus here
Bruce
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434016&highlight=interesting+info+dostinex
read this, i have asked my doctor as well, dostinex is for suppressing the release of prolactin during sex, that is all. why do people think otherwise, there is one progesterone inhibitor but no one can really get it, i'll link that as well
read this, i have asked my doctor as well, dostinex is for suppressing the release of prolactin during sex, that is all. why do people think otherwise, there is one progesterone inhibitor but no one can really get it, i'll link that as well
solidspine
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Ross where are you from as in where do you live, here in California?
And who is that big guy in your avatar? Is that arnold?
And who is that big guy in your avatar? Is that arnold?
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Bruce said:
This is just WRONG. LOL
However, after orgasm your body experiences a spike in prolactin. This spike produces a necessary "recovery period". When on cabergoline, that release of prolactin is inhibited, so "recovery time" is much shorter, usually only requiring several minutes before orgasm can be achieved once again.
Thus, to asssume that the ONLY time you release prolactin is after SEX, you are seriously mistaken. LOL
Bruce
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i never said that is the only time, what i said and any doctor will say the same is that DOSTINEX SIMPLY SUPPRESSES THE RELEASE OF PROLACTIN, it does this mildly and is effective for men who have variances of ED. it does nothing for tren or deca gyno. i know this from experience, the only thing that got rid of mine or anyone elses on here was winny and nolva or letro. luckily i never needed letro.
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Bruce said:
This is incorrct.
Prolactin causes LACTATION and an increase in nipple size and diameter(natures preparation for sucking).
Furthermore, PROLACTIN and ESTROGEN share a MUTUALLY EVIL relationship. They have a tremendously detrimental effect when BOTH act simultaneously within the male body.
Prolactin can not DIRECTLY cause gyno, but it the presence of ESTROGEN, you might as well go buy a bra.
Bruce
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that is not always true as many get prolactin issues from just tren or just deca. i have seen people with leaking nips on just deca no test. never has cabaser or the loads of money they spent on it done a thing for it. letro cleared it up real fast or winstrol and nolvadex are effective as well
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Bruce said:
When the PROGESTERONE receptor is stimulated, the pituitary releases PROLACTIN.
Trenbolone and DECA STIMULATE THE PROGESTERONE RECEPTOR 20% MORE THAN PROGESTERONE ITSELF!
By using Cabergoline, you inhibit the Pituitary from releasing PROLACTIN despite activation of the Progesterone receptor.
In other words, you can take as much DECA or TREN as you want....it doesn't matter HOW MUCH YOU STIMULATE THE PROGESTERONE RECEPTOR if you are inhibiting the release of PROLACTIN. PROLACTIN is what causes LACTATION.
Bruce
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you can talk science all you want i go by experience, i have yet to meet one person that has used that approach and been successful. furthermore makavelli's as well as my doctor both agree that it will do nothing for gyno. vitamin b-6 is more effective. leaking nips will not be fixed by cabaser period. it might work wonders for you as far as sex goes bro, thats fine, i believe that it possible as that is what it is for, however, i never experienced any of that. and like i said the only person that used cabaser and liked it was SATCH. i know guys that use dost or bromo for libido on deca or tren cycles that have not test in them. like i said though i know thru experience it does nothing for gyno. and once my MD seconded that as well as makavelli's, who is an established bb, i accepted it and took other measures.
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That Doctor was misinformed. Period.Bruce said:
Lactation is CAUSED by INCREASED PROLACTIN.
Cabergoline is a dopamine agonist and will INHIBIT the pituitary from secreting PROLACTIN. This is a FACT. It is designed for people with Parkinson's disease.
Bruce
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bro are you a computer program, do you just copy and past shit. lol. whatever. my doctor, makavelli's doctor, and about 10 national bbers on this site have all been misinformed. you are the end all be all i forgot. sorry bro, you have good intentions is seems, but all you do is spew out scientific terms that mean nothing without experience to back it. you know like the tests they do on chemicals to see if the subjects react to them. thats what doctors do, not roid book writers. where are your subjects and experience. look i dont' care if you wanna come on here and blow smoke up peoples asses fine, just beware bros of pms for dost. cause this is a big business
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Bruce said:
EVERYTHING I SUGGEST IS FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
I don't sell ANYTHING. I am NOT a sponsor bro, I am just a MEMBER! Anthony Roberts gave me a PLATINUM account.
You're a good bro too, and I understand your skepticism given the current state of things. It is 100% justified.
Bruce
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this place has just truly gone down hill, and the trends that hit here are so lame. that is great that you find cabaser helpful. your input is great. but when you hype it as the end all be all and BOLD PRINT EVERYTHING it makes it look like a damn advertisement. everything is a presentation that looks like a damn advertisement. i am giving you the benefit of the doubt, this just reminds me of the way satch was treated and look how that went. we have had many instances.
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I agree with ross here for sure. Just because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work.- Ross - said:This is incorrct.
Prolactin causes LACTATION and an increase in nipple size and diameter(natures preparation for sucking).
Furthermore, PROLACTIN and ESTROGEN share a MUTUALLY EVIL relationship. They have a tremendously detrimental effect when BOTH act simultaneously within the male body.
Prolactin can not DIRECTLY cause gyno, but it the presence of ESTROGEN, you might as well go buy a bra.
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Bruce said:
I understand bro.
With that said, let's divert the attention back on ME and how wonderful I am..LOLOL j/k
But seriously, now that the thread has started, I would not mind answering any questions, especially considering the VOLUME of PM's I respond to daily.
Bruce
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bro ive been answering pms for fucking ever big whoop, they are all newbs with no pics in their avis or fake ones if they have em. see gautho, do you see him, national level buddy, he and i have exchanged knowledge for a long while now, never have we seen any proof to back your claims. good to see ya gautho.
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Bruce said:
Hey bro, I don't know what I did for you to dislike me, LOL. I have a feeling I am just getting the brunt of everything.
Just tryin to help.
Bruce
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bro its just how condenscending you are like you are the inventor of steroids. we have national competitors on here that i have helped get to their goals, dannomight and gautho mainly. i don't think i am anything special but we all pool our knowledge and listen and sometimes disagree. if have a conversation about things instead of telling me licensed doctors who i went to with leaking nips are wrong, i just don't think you should do so. makavelli wrote that thread on dost, he has been in muscle mags and competes nationally as does gautho and danno. they are real people, i don't know if you are, i don't dislike you but you just got here and are already emulating the same thing that satch did. "i am big, do what i do, buy what i have and you will too", problem was no one ever looked like him cause he was a big scammer. i am a good bro and i like you man, but come on you just got here, quit bumping these threads that are claiming to save mankind from all his troubles of gyno bloat visa bills and everything in between, if a bro says they have tren gyno and you think this works, offer that knowledge. don't tell him it is absolutely the truth and that it is so because someone wrote it. fuck that. i would have posted a video of my nip before and after my problems if i had known this damn dost hype would keep going on
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snowyk12 said:
I personally do NOT use HCG while on cycle.
I start HCG during the FINAL week of Pre-PCT(Active Recovery).
Another advantage of the Pre-PCT
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Bruce said:
Thanks bro, I appreciate that.
Look forward to getting to know all of you guys.
Bruce
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you just have to be careful when you have a build like that bro. i get the pms too and i'm not anywhere near as large as you. people will do whatever you say you do to look like that, its just the way it is. kids here think roids are magic. gautho and others who are national bbers lay in the cut and do not really throw out biased info because if they do people will listen because of the level of their physiques
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Bruce said:
In this game the SMARTEST guys are the most JACKED guys.
It's 90% KNOWLEDGE. 10% EFFORT.
You can give your workouts 110%, but if you are not TRAINING PROPERLY, your effort means NOTHING. Actually, your effort can be detrimental.
You could commit 110% to TO YOUR DIET, but if you have the WRONG DIET, your effort means NADA!
Ergo, it is my knowledge and NOTHING else that has enabled me to develop the physique that I posess today. And I am substantially under 30 years old.
So, of course I am extremely passionate about my views on AAS. I believe 110 in what I say, because it has worked. And not JUST for me.
I appreciate this convo we had.
Of course, some people have insane genetics, but the majority of us dont.
luke_moore
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- Ross - said:In this game the SMARTEST guys are the most JACKED guys.
It's 90% KNOWLEDGE. 10% EFFORT.
You can give your workouts 110%, but if you are not TRAINING PROPERLY, your effort means NOTHING. Actually, your effort can be detrimental.
You could commit 110% to TO YOUR DIET, but if you have the WRONG DIET, your effort means NADA!
Ergo, it is my knowledge and NOTHING else that has enabled me to develop the physique that I posess today. And I am substantially under 30 years old.
So, of course I am extremely passionate about my views on AAS. I believe 110 in what I say, because it has worked. And not JUST for me.
I appreciate this convo we had.
Of course, some people have insane genetics, but the majority of us dont.
wow, 90% brains, i've heard it all now...
Bruce said:
If people are stupid enough to believe that gear and gear only built Ross's physique and not years of dedication to lifting and diet then they should'nt be on the site.
I think its refreshing, there is finally someone here with a shitload of knowledge a physique to match who is'nt trying to push his own product every second thread.
luke_moore
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i agree with 2 posts above, and i'm here to learn... Got a problem with that?
Edit: i might me natural, but there's a 50% chance i look a hell of alot better that you
Edit: i might me natural, but there's a 50% chance i look a hell of alot better that you
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luke_moore
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rg78 said:
in all seriousness, does a nick matter? name or not? rg78 doesn't make you anonymous, so i don't see the point...
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DBBT said:ross is a scammer--its why he's banned, who doesn't know what he knows?? anyone who's been here awhile can easily tell you things he has..
Here I am now pretending to be Ross himself. It is not hard
I was ACCUSED of being a scammer. I was never a source brother. Just another sabotage attempt; one of many...
I hope I can change your opinion of me.
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DBBT said:
I as bannd from MANY boards my friend, DOZENS. ALL of them have my name, ROSS.
Politics suck.
You're a good bro, you'll see, I AM who I say I am..
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DBBT said:
Bro, I am always daeling with some form of bullshit for expressing my theories on AAS. I have been an active member of the community for 10 years brotha. I have NEVER been a source, ask Anthony bro.
POLITICS.
chazk
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yea you got banned from dozens of boards for sharing your theories that makes alot of sense.
md labs called you out as a reverse scammer on outlaw.
you claimed you made a order had no proof and starting talking shit abour md labs untill you got some free gear. You got cuaght .Md stayed you were forced to leave. You also sold your all tbol cycle on another board . then asked for people to test the idea people tried your idea and you supplied the tbol and they called it as bunk gear wich it prob was.
If AR invited you here I have no respect for AR now .I really thought AR was a pretty decent guy.But maybe hes not
md labs called you out as a reverse scammer on outlaw.
you claimed you made a order had no proof and starting talking shit abour md labs untill you got some free gear. You got cuaght .Md stayed you were forced to leave. You also sold your all tbol cycle on another board . then asked for people to test the idea people tried your idea and you supplied the tbol and they called it as bunk gear wich it prob was.
If AR invited you here I have no respect for AR now .I really thought AR was a pretty decent guy.But maybe hes not
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chazk said:
MD Labs is a scammer. Period. He is aboard sponsor "over there" and he was selling fake juice. Period.
10 people spoke up.
I was banned.
Always political
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chazk said:
Yea, he wasn't always a scammer. After he went PRIVATE it was all downhill. Shame really, I used him for a long time.
[Ross is here to help, what the past is ...well is the past and you need to offer proof....
since Ross has been here he has been nice to everyone , even in the face of constant questions and BS ....i think his theories make perfect since and i have been around since the days of VOXX, DESIGNERLABS, JRBODYGUARD,HULK, old school and his ideas seem to be on par and new in some forms...dont hate just debate its not a mud slinging contest...i doubt if hes scamming left and right hes posting pics on here...look im not saying i know jack but since i have been here OMEGA,RADAR,and a few others have helped other than that ists dead here...not like old days-
since Ross has been here he has been nice to everyone , even in the face of constant questions and BS ....i think his theories make perfect since and i have been around since the days of VOXX, DESIGNERLABS, JRBODYGUARD,HULK, old school and his ideas seem to be on par and new in some forms...dont hate just debate its not a mud slinging contest...i doubt if hes scamming left and right hes posting pics on here...look im not saying i know jack but since i have been here OMEGA,RADAR,and a few others have helped other than that ists dead here...not like old days-
chazk
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POST your lab test results showing you sent the gear out to have it tested.- Ross - said:
post testing lab report number so we can email them and get a copy of md bunks gear and dont say its bunk becuase you didnt notice anything becuase you were only on it for a few weeks before you made the claims
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chazk said:
I never had his stuff testd bro. This wasn't ONE BATCH BROTHA...I had all of my friends and colleagues using his shit. After about 6 months of INCONSISTENT batches, we knew something was up. His INCONSISTNT quality caused ALOT of problems for myself and my friends and collagues.
My circle of people are NOT beginners. We know when we are on REAL juice, FAKE juice, and UNDERDOSED juice. But this is nonsense, so let's just end it brother.
chazk
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- Ross - said:
you had inconsistnt batches and you wanted more of the the md labs gear
your package arrived from MD on 3/27/07 you used it for less then two weeks and made claimed it was all fake..and was banned by 4-12-07
on outlaw
I suppose you knew the injects were fake after using them for less then 2 weeks?
when the long acting esters take longer then that to work or even to get into the system.
ross your a fucking joke.
imagine if every one did injections for less then 2 weeks and claimed it was bunk ? bro it does not work like that.
your full of shit ross get a fucking clue.
You would have something to say if you had it tested .but you didnt you did a shot or two and claimed it was bunk...
mods over at outlaw will confirm your bullshit
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Ross
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Get your facts straight brotha, I was ripped off.
My actions speak for themselves.
My actions speak for themselves.
chazk
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how were you ripped off ? you got the gear used less then two weeks then claimed it was bunk....- Ross - said:
I'll see if a mod from outlaw wants to make the journey to elite to post the details
how it was never tested and you called out the source after less then 2 weeks.
your actions speak for them selves you used inject esters that take more then 2 weeks to build up you didnt even use them for 2 weeks and claimed the gear was bunk...
your actions show that you were being a idiot .
its not polictics when you get banned for being full of shit.
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chazk said:
At least 10 batches bro. READ THE THREAD. This was a LONG-TERM Problem.
Are you listening, did you read the thread?
Stop trying to bash me bro.
busamuscle
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mookie said:
Mook check into this please. There was a thread about all of this but it was moved to the members only board or deleted. Some one is pulling some strings!!
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Busamuscle said:
I was accused of being a scammer, by ONE DUDE.
I AM NOT! Plain and simple, I have been around for YEARS! I have never been a source. Where are my clients? Or my VITCIMS? LOL
You won't FIND ONE
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busamuscle
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- Ross - said:
I have never accused you of being a scammer! I just don't like seeing threads disapear for no reason. If the TRUTH is that you are not then there should be no reason to hide it! So who over at anabolic review will back your side of the story?
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This went from a POSITIVE thread from a geniune member who was happy I helped them, to a very negative thread that is not productive at all.
Yuo can judge me for yourself based on my posts.
Yuo can judge me for yourself based on my posts.
busamuscle
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- Ross - said:This went from a POSITIVE thread from a geniune member who was happy I helped them, to a very negative thread that is not productive at all.
Yuo can judge me for yourself based on my posts.
I will not judge you or any other person on this earth. If the mods gave you the ok then thats that. Just remember that I have been on this board for seven years as well as others so I do know a little about you. Like I said before I like some of your theories and that you say what is on your mind so lets hope thing stay that way.
chazk
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you ordered 10 batches of fake gear ?- Ross - said:
and still wanted another batch last month boy your a fucking idiot
dont you think after 9 batches of fake gear you would have learned a lesson? and stopped ordering ? say after batch 3-4 i think everyone else would not have reordered give me a break we can smell your bullshit from miles away.
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DBBT said:ross is a scammer--its why he's banned, who doesn't know what he knows?? anyone who's been here awhile can easily tell you things he has..
Here I am now pretending to be Ross himself. It is not hard
Dont even know why your still here. You, snatchboogie and indy were involved in the biggest scam ever on elite..
Any reason why you PM members for dbol tabs? Seems to me, like its the easiest drug to come by on the net..
CO B-man
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- Ross - said:
First off AR has very little if NO Credability ANYWHERE!!! even here!!!!!. you seem to know what you are talking about BUT everytime you mention AR as your baby back you lose serious credability! Just saying for your own good. I am gone soon at my OWN request and if some jackass named AR tries to claim that as their own doing would in NO way shock me. After all that is what EX-cons do. They claim lies left and right to make themselves look better than they really are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! quit claiming a fucking loser as your back and you will have just a lil more respect and being banned a miilion times because of what you claim is "POLITICS" has left me with WAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more questions than answers.
busamuscle
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VooDooChild said:
That is funny cause I tried to tell everyone this but he is still here !! This is why a lot of good members and I have moved on.
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DBBT said:go ahead and have anyone post up that received any such PM, thanks.
Sorry for what? I dont use BD.. Im a big fan of Weisman gh anal lube, waterdowned GLP products, and snake oil IP. Any more questions, feel free to send me red k..
Forgot to ask ya, what did you wind up getting for your double wide, in Taylor Tuckey, Michigan?? Or did repo man get that too?
lmfao..
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blackthunder said:
THAT was the ORIGINAL FAKE THREAD that accused me. NO EVIDENCE! NONE. Where are my "clients" or my VITCIMS??? THERE ARE NONE.
I WAS NEVER A SOURCE.
ProtienFiend
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- Ross - said:In this game the SMARTEST guys are the most JACKED guys.
It's 90% KNOWLEDGE. 10% EFFORT.
You can give your workouts 110%, but if you are not TRAINING PROPERLY, your effort means NOTHING. Actually, your effort can be detrimental.
You could commit 110% to TO YOUR DIET, but if you have the WRONG DIET, your effort means NADA!
Ergo, it is my knowledge and NOTHING else that has enabled me to develop the physique that I posess today. And I am substantially under 30 years old.
So, of course I am extremely passionate about my views on AAS. I believe 110 in what I say, because it has worked. And not JUST for me.
I appreciate this convo we had.
Of course, some people have insane genetics, but the majority of us dont.
This is 100% opposite what Nelson says... he states that "anything will work". Basically, workout hard, eat a lot, and juice if you want.
busamuscle
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DBBT said:go ahead and have anyone post up that received any such PM, thanks.
I got a email from you trying to sell shit to me out of the blue? Sending pm's to peole asking for there emails to sell them shit is a sign of a scammer.I still have it if any one wants to see it. Also you can give me all the red you want because I could careless if I ever come back here again with all the bullshit any more! I wouldn't ask you you for shit!!!!!!
busamuscle
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Also that place that you were promoting veta****** went under a couple months later and took some people with them!
mr.nitro
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Busamuscle said:I got a email from you trying to sell shit to me out of the blue? Sending pm's to peole asking for there emails to sell them shit is a sign of a scammer.I still have it if any one wants to see it. Also you can give me all the red you want because I could careless if I ever come back here again with all the bullshit any more! I wouldn't ask you you for shit!!!!!!
post it here!
DBBT
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did you or anyone get scammed by me? no, no one did. so what else do you have to say. AG guys supported Vetabo**s too you stupid piece of shit, what you got now?Busamuscle said:I got a email from you trying to sell shit to me out of the blue? Sending pm's to peole asking for there emails to sell them shit is a sign of a scammer.I still have it if any one wants to see it. Also you can give me all the red you want because I could careless if I ever come back here again with all the bullshit any more! I wouldn't ask you you for shit!!!!!!
busamuscle
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DBBT said:
Stop it you are hurting my feelings. You know name calling is a sign of low intellect don't you? AG never spammed people for their info to sell junk gear to them did they! One more thing DBBT
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